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The Official Jazz Discussion Thread
    #2704486 - 05/20/04 05:03 AM (13 years, 6 days ago)

alright MA&L,

i thought it would be a convenient to get a centralized thread of album recommendations, jazz discussion, and random shit associated with it.  Come here and post if you are diggin a song, etc, spread the jazz love :smile:

Ive become totally taken with this music in the past month.  I?ve always loved music, but this is a whole new kind of love for me, it totally speaks to me whenever i listen to it.  Im so thankful for being introduced, so lets spread the love.

First things first, im gonna request an album recommendation for Gerry Mulligan.  I have a weird comp cd of his work, but im interested in finding a great recording.
Any Rec?s on Cannonball Adderly records?
Ive been thinkin of picking up a Mingus recording, but im not sure which one to go for, also.

This is what i?ve been listening to for the past month:


Miles Davis - Kind Of Blue


Miles Davis - Birth of the Cool


Workin? with the miles davis quintet


John Coltrane - A Love Supreme


Ken Burns Jazz - Dave Brubeck


Ken Burns Jazz - Charlie Parker


Ken Burns Jazz - Lester Young

Lester Young - Tenor King

Dizzy Gillespie, Sarah Vaughn & Charlie Parker - Radio Sessions (Laserlight)

Charlie Parker - All Stars Live @ The Royal Room (laserlight)

Dizzy Gillespie - Bebop Professor

Gerry Mulligan - Mulligan (lasterlight)

Various other random laserlight recordings i dont want to look for right now :P

I just added these to my collection with a recent order:


Steamin? with the miles davis quintet


Relaxin? with the miles davis quintet


John Coltrane - Giant Steps


Modern Jazz Quartet - Django

Thats it, but growing constantly :smile:

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--Richard Dawkins, "The Selfish Gene"

"It is the mind which creates the world about us, and even though we stand side by side in the same meadow, my eyes will never see what is beheld by yours."
-George Gissing

"Without a firm idea of himself and the purpose of his life, man cannot live, and would sooner destroy himself than remain on earth, even if he was surrounded by bread."
--Fyodor Dostoevsky


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Re: The Official Jazz Discussion Thread [Re: Kremlin]
    #2704640 - 05/20/04 08:14 AM (13 years, 6 days ago)

As far as Gerry Mulligan goes I have only one of his CDs but I would recommend it to anyone who loves jazz; What is There To Say?


I get into jazz guitarist more than anything, I'll stick to recommending what I'm listening to at this time, Larry Coryell (especially his version of "Yesterdays" which is very relaxed and dreamlike) and Jimmy Bruno (Night Mist in particular).



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Re: The Official Jazz Discussion Thread [Re: Kremlin]
    #2705372 - 05/20/04 01:28 PM (13 years, 6 days ago)

Jazz is fantastic, I don't know much about jazz, but Miles Davis is excellent. I'm kinda convinced jazz is the best stoner music, I'd like to get some recomendations going in this thread, I want more jazz!


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Re: The Official Jazz Discussion Thread [Re: Aaladorn]
    #2705684 - 05/20/04 02:49 PM (13 years, 6 days ago)

Stoner Jazz:

Pharoah Sanders
Sun Ra
Eddie Harris
Ornette Colman
Soulive


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Re: The Official Jazz Discussion Thread [Re: MrBump]
    #2707774 - 05/20/04 08:14 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

SOULIVE! Hell yes! I only have their "Doin' Something" album, but I want to buy a few others. What do you think is their best record?


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Re: The Official Jazz Discussion Thread [Re: Kremlin]
    #2708416 - 05/20/04 11:16 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

get ella fitzgerald and louis armstrong doing "Porgy & Bess"
dont forget miles davis - bitched brew.
duke ellington - newport jazz festival (make sure its the one with "Caravan" on it.)
and get everything thecornking recommended.... especially as much ornette coleman as you can get. he popularized free jazz.
wes montgomery - (all)

i personally am a bebop fanatic, so i have tons of old parker and dizzy recording. can you imagine.... those 2 guys invented bebop in a tiny bar in harlem!!!!

AND FOR GOD'S SAKE.... READ MILES DAVIS' AUTOBIOGRAPHY AS TOLD THROUGH INTERVIEWS!!!


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Re: The Official Jazz Discussion Thread [Re: automan]
    #2708483 - 05/20/04 11:30 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

minton's baby :smile:

yeah, is this autobiography a book?  or can i find it online?

I have 2 jazz books currently i had to get for a class:

Ted Gioia - history of jazz
burton w. peretti - jazz & american culture

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"Human suffering has been caused because all too many of us cannot grasp that words are only tools for our use, and that the mere presence of a word in the dictionary does not mean it necessarily refers to something definitive in the real world"
--Richard Dawkins, "The Selfish Gene"

"It is the mind which creates the world about us, and even though we stand side by side in the same meadow, my eyes will never see what is beheld by yours."
-George Gissing

"Without a firm idea of himself and the purpose of his life, man cannot live, and would sooner destroy himself than remain on earth, even if he was surrounded by bread."
--Fyodor Dostoevsky


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Re: The Official Jazz Discussion Thread [Re: Kremlin]
    #2709032 - 05/21/04 01:29 AM (13 years, 5 days ago)

John Coltrane & Duke Ellington's album is excellent

And thanks for the jazz thread, I'm learning lots of new music heare.


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Re: The Official Jazz Discussion Thread [Re: Kremlin]
    #2709745 - 05/21/04 03:52 AM (13 years, 5 days ago)

yep, its a book. you should be able to find it anywhere.


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Re: The Official Jazz Discussion Thread [Re: Kremlin]
    #2710575 - 05/21/04 12:25 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

Django Reinhardt - Djangology


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Re: The Official Jazz Discussion Thread [Re: gbhtrfv]
    #2711714 - 05/21/04 04:50 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

Wynton Marsalis Live at the Village Vanguard.

It is a 7 cd set for $30 at places like Best Buy. It is what got me interested in jazz in the first place.


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Re: The Official Jazz Discussion Thread [Re: Kremlin]
    #2717544 - 05/23/04 07:20 AM (13 years, 3 days ago)

So you like jazz. Mingus and Monk are two of my absolute favourites. They have some seriously fucked up trippy blue music minds...but in a really good way.

Check out this shit...

Two of the "best" (IMHO), that he recorded for Riverside

Brilliant Corners


Monk's Music


You have to be open to fully appreciate Monk. Coltrane plays on Monk's Music; there a famous point when you hear Monk shout "Coltrane! Coltrane!" to bring in Coltrane; legend has it that Coltrane was so smacked out that he was fallin asleep during the session. You can't tell from the solo though; and some people just say they hadn't worked out the soloing order prior to starting the take. Coltrane did a lot of good shit with Monk, they really played off each other. They've got another album called "Monk and Coltrane" or summat which is well worth checking out.


Now for Charlie:

Mingus Ah Um


The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady


If you like Kind of Blue or A Love Supreme ckeck out these. And the Monk ones too of course  :tongue:  There's a gem of an album called "Mingus Plays Piano"; Mingus wasn't a practiced pianist, but it's just him messing about at a piano in quite a light hearted way. And it beats a lot of other jazz piano albums I've heard...



And as far as Miles Davis is concerned, two of the most important albums in the history of jazz are:


In A Silent Way... a total chillout album, one of my favourite pieces of music in any genre. Smooth electric pianos support Miles soft playing, great bass and drums too. Can't remember how many times I've put this on after a heavy smoking party and just fallen asleep to it!


Bitches Brew... Fusion Funk Jazz Rock in a way no-one else has ever envisaged. Need to listen to it.



These are just a few of my favourite albums. I really only listen to jazz of the 50s and after, from be-bop on, I'm not really into the big-band era and swing stuff.


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Re: The Official Jazz Discussion Thread [Re: mr_kite]
    #2728265 - 05/25/04 05:09 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

awesome, thanks for the ref, i'll make sure to check those out.

=]


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--Richard Dawkins, "The Selfish Gene"

"It is the mind which creates the world about us, and even though we stand side by side in the same meadow, my eyes will never see what is beheld by yours."
-George Gissing

"Without a firm idea of himself and the purpose of his life, man cannot live, and would sooner destroy himself than remain on earth, even if he was surrounded by bread."
--Fyodor Dostoevsky


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Re: The Official Jazz Discussion Thread [Re: Kremlin]
    #2729817 - 05/25/04 10:57 PM (13 years, 18 hours ago)

Lately I've been listening to some James Carter. Sax player, really cool stuff. Two songs I recommend are "Tricotism" and "Don's Idea", you won't be disappointed.


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Re: The Official Jazz Discussion Thread [Re: Kremlin]
    #2730599 - 05/26/04 01:56 AM (13 years, 15 hours ago)

"Out Here In There"


"Duplex Ride"



by Sidsel Endresen and Bugge Wesseltoft :yesnod::thumbup:


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Re: The Official Jazz Discussion Thread [Re: Kremlin]
    #2738174 - 05/27/04 08:46 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Mingus - Live at the Bohemia
Brubeck Quartet - Jazz Impressions of Japan
Cal Tjader - Breeze from the East
Eric Dolphy - Out to Lunch
Jackie McClean - Destination Out!
Bobby Hutcherson - Patterns
Gillespie and Machito - Afro-Cuban Jazz Moods


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Re: The Official Jazz Discussion Thread [Re: ]
    #2749066 - 05/31/04 05:03 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I bought Kind of Blue on the weekend and I haven't been able to turn it off. Amazing stuff; this Jazz world is new to me and I like it  :cool:


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Re: The Official Jazz Discussion Thread [Re: FocusHawaii]
    #2749146 - 05/31/04 06:32 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

yeah kind of blue is definately an amazing cd

if im not mistaken i believe it was voted #1 on the official 'album you'd most like to have with you on a desert island' poll for jazz fans.

=)

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"Human suffering has been caused because all too many of us cannot grasp that words are only tools for our use, and that the mere presence of a word in the dictionary does not mean it necessarily refers to something definitive in the real world"
--Richard Dawkins, "The Selfish Gene"

"It is the mind which creates the world about us, and even though we stand side by side in the same meadow, my eyes will never see what is beheld by yours."
-George Gissing

"Without a firm idea of himself and the purpose of his life, man cannot live, and would sooner destroy himself than remain on earth, even if he was surrounded by bread."
--Fyodor Dostoevsky


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Re: The Official Jazz Discussion Thread [Re: Kremlin]
    #2778783 - 06/09/04 07:46 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I got into jazz a couple years ago, and the first albums I got were Miles Davis' "Live Evil (Selim Sivad Evil)" and Thelonious Monk's "Live at the Jazz Workshop". As for the Monk album, I like it when I'm relaxing and it's late and dark. Just sends me off into a different time. Now, the Miles album, that's probably my best buy ever, and I'm not only talking about music. It's just one of the things I'm most glad I ever discovered. It's really funky, and there's a really great guitarist on it, man! And there wasn't even supposed to be guitars on the album, that's something someone desided about a week before the album was recorded (if my memory serves me right). About half of the album is recorded live, half in studio. When I sometimes can't tell the difference it makes me understand what amazing musicians these are. It's a double album, really worth cheking out. It's in the vein of Bitches Brew, btw, I saw someone mentioning it.
Oh, here's the cover. I think it's awesome, and it's one of the reasons I got it. :smile:



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Re: The Official Jazz Discussion Thread [Re: Kremlin]
    #2902563 - 07/18/04 03:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

*bump*

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"Human suffering has been caused because all too many of us cannot grasp that words are only tools for our use, and that the mere presence of a word in the dictionary does not mean it necessarily refers to something definitive in the real world"
--Richard Dawkins, "The Selfish Gene"

"It is the mind which creates the world about us, and even though we stand side by side in the same meadow, my eyes will never see what is beheld by yours."
-George Gissing

"Without a firm idea of himself and the purpose of his life, man cannot live, and would sooner destroy himself than remain on earth, even if he was surrounded by bread."
--Fyodor Dostoevsky


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