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McGrimm
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Growing Oysters at home Questions/Request
#27044448 - 11/17/20 07:22 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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So I am dialing in my Oyster mushroom game. Im currently trying djamor and polmonarius.
I have a few shelves with a humidifier and fan draped in painters plastic as a fruiting chamber.
Im doing 1lb spawn to ~5lbs bags of cold pasteurized straw, so 6 bags of each type each week. Most of the bags seem to (and I want them to) pin in a week.
All the prep is the same every week with very little variables; but, im getting unpredictable fruiting times. I can deal with a little difference, but some are way off from the rest.
* How can I dial this in? *Should consolidation be in the dark somewhere so when moved to fruiting there is a larger difference in the environment? I currently consolidate on a shelf.
**Even more importantly, is anyone willing to start PM's for all the questions Im going to be coming up with? Im growing for a Chef and am really looking for more consistency. Any help would be greatly appreciated
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Harry Manbach
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Re: Growing Oysters at home Questions/Request [Re: McGrimm]
#27044532 - 11/17/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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What's your temperature difference between inoculation and fruiting area?
What is the actual humidity swing within your "fruiting chamber"? Lighting shouldn't be that big of a factor in incubation/consolidation.
Before you "dial it in" you need to be sure what your "constants" are too determine what needs dialing in.
This community is fairly small enough that your posts/questions won't be over looked, and the option to compare/contrast between multiple r experiences is more valuable than a single persons in my opinion, but by all means,if my opinion resonates with you in any way you can feel free to message me any time!
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Re: Growing Oysters at home Questions/Request [Re: Harry Manbach]
#27044641 - 11/17/20 09:55 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Could it be temp fluctuations thru the spawn run?
Can you elaborate on your cold pasteurization technique?
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Re: Growing Oysters at home Questions/Request [Re: deadmandave]
#27044778 - 11/18/20 01:40 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would guess it is a colonization temp issue. I had issues of inconsistent colonization until I build a colonization room. I keep the room at 72F and now my issues are solved. All my blocks fruit within a day of each other.
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Re: Growing Oysters at home Questions/Request [Re: Harry Manbach]
#27045827 - 11/18/20 04:10 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sorry I wasnt more prompt in this. I feel like I have a million things to do. anyways..
So the consolidation is happening at about 72-73F, might get down to 68F at night. It is indoors with windowlight throughout the day.
The fruiting chamber is staying above 90% humidity with a Vicks Cool Mister In the center of the shelves. A small fan circulates the air on one of the shelves.
It is basically the ambient temperature of the rest of the building, maybe plus a degree or two at times.
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Harry Manbach said: Before you "dial it in" you need to be sure what your "constants" are too determine what needs dialing in.
This community is fairly small enough that your posts/questions won't be over looked, and the option to compare/contrast between multiple r experiences is more valuable than a single persons in my opinion, but by all means,if my opinion resonates with you in any way you can feel free to message me any time!
Man, I totally get the "dialing it in" part. At this point Im most comfortable with the clean spawn, pasteurization (cold water, lime, chopped straw, 12-18hrs or so. Outside Temps just dipped to the 50sF), ratios, and consistent bag weights, etc.
Thank you so much for the offer to help!!
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Re: Growing Oysters at home Questions/Request [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27045837 - 11/18/20 04:13 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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SHROOMSISAY01 said: I would guess it is a colonization temp issue. I had issues of inconsistent colonization until I build a colonization room. I keep the room at 72F and now my issues are solved. All my blocks fruit within a day of each other.
Hmmm. very interesting. do you just move from the Consolidation room to fruiting after a week?
What is your fruiting chamber temp?
Im using the polytubing with holes to make 5-6lbs blocks. If that matters rather than filter bags
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Re: Growing Oysters at home Questions/Request [Re: McGrimm]
#27046144 - 11/18/20 06:57 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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What is the ambient temperature in the fruiting room? Ideally your colonization area would be slightly warmer than your fruiting chamber, as Shrooms said if your colonization room doesn't stay a constant,warmer temp than your fruiting room it would cause inconsistency in your fruiting chamber,because well there's no "definite shift" in environmental conditions.
Example, my colonization room stays between 72-74, my fruiting tent is 66-68 and it seems to work ok!
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Re: Growing Oysters at home Questions/Request [Re: Harry Manbach]
#27046160 - 11/18/20 07:02 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I see. That is very good info. Im going to come up with something then.
All the help is extremely appreciated.
I will come back with updates
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Harry Manbach
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Re: Growing Oysters at home Questions/Request [Re: McGrimm]
#27046280 - 11/18/20 07:48 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hell yeah! Hope you find a happy balance!
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Re: Growing Oysters at home Questions/Request [Re: McGrimm]
#27046315 - 11/18/20 08:05 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is the problem that the fruiting time is too different between batches or too variable within a batch? I too am thinking that some temperature is not under control. It could be that the sub is too cold when you inoculate, especially with the more tropical djamor.
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Re: Growing Oysters at home Questions/Request [Re: Shu]
#27056153 - 11/24/20 08:01 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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You dont say.. Hm..
I actually did not think of the temperature AT inoculation time. It is not super consistent now.
However, I did try something new with air exchange. For colonization I only used very small holes. Then as the myc built up around said holes, I opened them up at each spot the following week. That initiated pins right where and when I wanted them.
But seeing as this is the first time I have done this, It doesnt provide a ton of information until I can repeat it.
Also, still working on a consolidation chamber, in the dark, and of a different steady temperature BEFORE moving to fruiting each week.
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