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Re: Meditating in the Presence of Psychedelics [Re: Loaded Shaman]
#27032829 - 11/11/20 06:18 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't specifically "meditate" like what others would consider a meditation. But I try and take some deep breathe and calm my head before introducing them to my digestive system. I also ask them to be nice - they don’t always listen
It's like I have to try and build up a relationship with that dose before I take it. My anxiety is usually pretty high prior to any trip - because I know what they're capable of. For the most part it's enjoyable.. but there are times where it's an absolute nightmare.. but they make for the best trips.
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Re: Meditating in the Presence of Psychedelics [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
#27033205 - 11/11/20 10:54 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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i wouldn't say the horror trips were the best, they make good stories though.
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Re: Meditating in the Presence of Psychedelics [Re: Loaded Shaman]
#27035161 - 11/12/20 12:18 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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DdaShroom said: Does anyone have any personal experiences with meditating while in the presence of psychedelics? NOT ON them, but in the presence of, say on a shelf nearby, at your feet, in your pocket, etc.
If so, what was different?
Hypothetically, a strong mushroom COULD possess some sort of etheric/astral field.
and said etheric body could possess powers capable of influencing us?
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Re: Meditating in the Presence of Psychedelics [Re: DdaShroom]
#27036203 - 11/13/20 12:38 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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DdaShroom said:
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Loaded Shaman said:
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DdaShroom said: Does anyone have any personal experiences with meditating while in the presence of psychedelics? NOT ON them, but in the presence of, say on a shelf nearby, at your feet, in your pocket, etc.
If so, what was different?
Hypothetically, a strong mushroom COULD possess some sort of etheric/astral field.
and said etheric body could possess powers capable of influencing us?
Only living things will give off an etheric field, so yes! All plants contain etheric energy if they're still alive, and some may even store it like a battery or capacitor; I believe Shrooms are one of these compounds.
Higher level conscious beings like animals and humans have etheric and astral levels (the ability to decrease entropy; "life force" energy!).
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Re: Meditating in the Presence of Psychedelics [Re: Loaded Shaman]
#27036231 - 11/13/20 01:17 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Loaded Shaman said:
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DdaShroom said:
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Loaded Shaman said:
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DdaShroom said: Does anyone have any personal experiences with meditating while in the presence of psychedelics? NOT ON them, but in the presence of, say on a shelf nearby, at your feet, in your pocket, etc.
If so, what was different?
Hypothetically, a strong mushroom COULD possess some sort of etheric/astral field.
and said etheric body could possess powers capable of influencing us?
Only living things will give off an etheric field, so yes! All plants contain etheric energy if they're still alive, and some may even store it like a battery or capacitor; I believe Shrooms are one of these compounds.
Higher level conscious beings like animals and humans have etheric and astral levels (the ability to decrease entropy; "life force" energy!).
Very interesting concept
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Re: Meditating in the Presence of Psychedelics [Re: DdaShroom]
#27036347 - 11/13/20 03:58 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Loaded Shaman said: Only living things will give off an etheric field, so yes! All plants contain etheric energy if they're still alive, and some may even store it like a battery or capacitor; I believe Shrooms are one of these compounds.
Higher level conscious beings like animals and humans have etheric and astral levels (the ability to decrease entropy; "life force" energy!).
Very interesting concept
A lot of classic esoteric literature tends to cover these concepts, if you can dig it up!
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Re: Meditating in the Presence of Psychedelics [Re: Loaded Shaman]
#27036418 - 11/13/20 05:47 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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please go to the mysticism sub-forum to explore the various ether's that are not gas
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Re: Meditating in the Presence of Psychedelics [Re: redgreenvines]
#27037230 - 11/13/20 02:54 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think you'd have to be the type of person who meditates with other herbs, plant spirits, stones, etc. to notice much.
I.E. Some sorta hippie witchcraft lover or something :P
That said, I haven't tried it. I might hold some shrooms in my hand next time I meditate and see if I get any sort of impressions.
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Re: Meditating in the Presence of Psychedelics [Re: karri0n]
#27037993 - 11/14/20 12:09 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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To the OP,
Yes. Your mind will be revealed as to how you revere them or don’t. It’s more of the same Mind trip. But in my regards, it’s been that they are holy sacraments - not to be taken heedlessly - but for wisdom alone.
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Re: Meditating in the Presence of Psychedelics [Re: redgreenvines]
#27038027 - 11/14/20 12:43 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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redgreenvines said: please go to the mysticism sub-forum to explore the various ether's that are not gas
Mysticism and Philosophy are packed with people that accept rational contradiction as an explanation for observation, deny it, then argue with you about why you're wrong.
All set with that close-minded bullshit. You'd think for people that use and understand psychedelics they'd have learned a thing or two, but nope; a brand new flavor of ego they completely deny (or argue doesn't exist while exemplifying it).
So, here we are.
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Re: Meditating in the Presence of Psychedelics [Re: The Blind Ass]
#27038050 - 11/14/20 01:05 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Blind Ass said: To the OP,
Yes. Your mind will be revealed as to how you revere them or don’t. It’s more of the same Mind trip. But in my regards, it’s been that they are holy sacraments - not to be taken heedlessly - but for wisdom alone.
Not to be taken heedlessly. I like that.
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Re: Meditating in the Presence of Psychedelics [Re: karri0n]
#27038051 - 11/14/20 01:06 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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karri0n said: I think you'd have to be the type of person who meditates with other herbs, plant spirits, stones, etc. to notice much.
I.E. Some sorta hippie witchcraft lover or something :P
That said, I haven't tried it. I might hold some shrooms in my hand next time I meditate and see if I get any sort of impressions.
So I guess you're that kinda person then? In all seriousness though, let us know what you notice(d) if you ended up trying this.
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Re: Meditating in the Presence of Psychedelics [Re: DdaShroom]
#27040499 - 11/15/20 12:34 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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So I picked a nice looking cubensis fruit from a cake, held it in my hands, and meditated for a few mins.
I first needed to push away thoughts specifically trying to direct me toward an answer to this thread, and try to get a "clean" mindset. After a minute or two I was able to clear my head and feel for any sort of impressions I got.
I felt an energy that was certainly human, but also more natural. I got the sense of shamanic practices and a medicine man type feeling. The very first word/thought/impression that came to my head was Native American, but I think this was just my mind's closest point of reference to the shamanic practice and experience universal to many paths of mankind.
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Re: Meditating in the Presence of Psychedelics [Re: karri0n]
#27041930 - 11/16/20 09:32 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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no diff, I will say though that growing psychedelics is life anhencing
saliva cactus mushrooms
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Re: Meditating in the Presence of Psychedelics [Re: karri0n]
#27042147 - 11/16/20 11:52 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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karri0n said: So I picked a nice looking cubensis fruit from a cake, held it in my hands, and meditated for a few mins.
I first needed to push away thoughts specifically trying to direct me toward an answer to this thread, and try to get a "clean" mindset. After a minute or two I was able to clear my head and feel for any sort of impressions I got.
I felt an energy that was certainly human, but also more natural. I got the sense of shamanic practices and a medicine man type feeling. The very first word/thought/impression that came to my head was Native American, but I think this was just my mind's closest point of reference to the shamanic practice and experience universal to many paths of mankind.
how absolutely cool. a very beautiful experience i presume?
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Re: Meditating in the Presence of Psychedelics [Re: Ferdinando]
#27042148 - 11/16/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ferdinando said: no diff, I will say though that growing psychedelics is life anhencing
saliva cactus mushrooms
what about it do you think enhances life? what aspects of life are enhanced?
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Re: Meditating in the Presence of Psychedelics [Re: Loaded Shaman]
#27042176 - 11/16/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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redgreenvines said: please go to the mysticism sub-forum to explore the various ether's that are not gas
Mysticism and Philosophy are packed with people that accept rational contradiction as an explanation for observation, deny it, then argue with you about why you're wrong.
All set with that close-minded bullshit. You'd think for people that use and understand psychedelics they'd have learned a thing or two, but nope; a brand new flavor of ego they completely deny (or argue doesn't exist while exemplifying it).
So, here we are.
Religious and psychiatric institutions are packed with people that accept "rational" contradiction as an explanation for observation, deny it, then argue with you about why you're wrong.
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Re: Meditating in the Presence of Psychedelics [Re: Northerner] 1
#27042225 - 11/16/20 01:15 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I want to know where I can find some ether that is gas!
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Re: Meditating in the Presence of Psychedelics [Re: redgreenvines]
#27042234 - 11/16/20 01:18 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'll meditate on it with you man, if that'll make us moar high. Get in touch with the ether before getting in touch with the ether.
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Re: Meditating in the Presence of Psychedelics [Re: DdaShroom]
#27042410 - 11/16/20 03:27 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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how absolutely cool. a very beautiful experience i presume?
I guess I should have appreciated it more, reading this response.
Nothing mind blowing. It was cool, but not altogether surprising and I don't think I really considered it "beautiful" at the time. It was comforting though.
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