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OfflineEtrainMD
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Disappointing Experience on 2 Grams Ecuador
    #27042138 - 11/16/20 11:43 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

By way of background, This was my 4th experience with Cubensis and 3rd for my partner.  I followed advice and am taking it slow with a month or more in between dose increases.  This time we took 2 grams dried Cubensis - Ecuador.  The previous trips were all B .  I've had problems with nausea so decided to make capsules this time.  We both ingested 5 capsules to equal 2grams.  After 90 minutes, neither of us felt anything.  A bit later I felt some mild body effects and my partner had very very mild visual distortion at one point but otherwise an underwhelming experience. (Note:  He had closed and open eye visuals at 1.5 gm. B , I've not experienced that myself, just sensory enhancement and some spacial distortions).  So my questions for you more experienced folks are:  Could the particular strain (Ecuador) effect the potency?  Might taking it in capsules slow down the absorption to a point that effected the trip experience?  Should I discard the remaining Ecuador or just try a larger dose?  Should I try the same dose  but not in capsules (I didn't experience any nausea this time)? Maybe try another 2 gram dose and add more?  Any other suggestions? 
I'm trying to avoid a bad experience as I get to higher doses by going up slowly.  Thanks!


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Re: Disappointing Experience on 2 Grams Ecuador [Re: EtrainMD]
    #27042276 - 11/16/20 01:47 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Um in short my answer is if u want to trip in the way that most people in the community  are probably referring to it than u really don’t even need to read the rest of this just.  BIGGER DOSES


Not doing much else rn and I think it’s fun to talk shrooms so  let’s go but yah the key is bigger doses
Anyways
for  the sake of u and anyone else out there who want the tiniest advice about beginner dosing and for the sake of myself through voicing my mind I will elaborate
but first I must say that  it was a bit of a disappointing experience reading that someone was disappointed by some shrooms yet they have spent months working their way up to a 2g dose and and maybe I got this wrong but it sounds like that’s actually the most u ever taken?!. But hey who hasn’t been skeptical about something new before and wanted to play it safe? So hopefully that didn’t come off too harsh

On another note congrats to ur partner for achieving open and closed eye visuals on only 1.5 I’ve never heard of that but maybe that’s a thing for some I just hadnt researched much experiences online or anything like that I mainly just know what other humans in my life plus myself have learned, this actually one of my few times using this website I had a question for a friend that I posted about earlier today so if you or anyone else is interested please take a look at my account answers would be big help

But one things is for sure Plenty people start with higher doses than 2 their very first time...

So yah I’m not at all surprised you didn’t feel much after working your way up to that.. if this is ur forth time wtf were the first 3 doses I want to know ha

Not that I agree with this but I Also bet  some people who i know would say that if u havent experienced visuals u havent even tripped yet... but I would just say you definitely havnt gotten the full experience, and at that, not much of it at all really...

But hey your here now and I’m sure in the past I’ve  been weary of something I  never did and took advice from people who thought they knew better so I’ll say this last bit

with psychs u gotta find what works for u not listen to everyone else which also makes me feel stupid for typing all this cuz rly if u care enough you’ll learn all this and stuff I cant imagine all on ur own and that’ll prob be for the best way anyways  but my last 2cents is that  if you want to experience what some of your more seasoned psychedelic venturers are talking about then you prob wanna double that dose and if ur in a situation where shrooms aren’t necessarily easy to come by and someone may run out of stock cutting off ur access just get them ASAP and save them for as long as you want... Idk when this 2g experience happened but let’s just say it was yesterday than wait a couple weeks at least to just go ahead and let ur tolerance go back down but u could take em tmrw they just wouldn’t hit well and be another waste of shrooms. But you can trip multiple times within a week just gotta keep upping the dose....  & it’s not a waste of shrooms just not getting the most out of em in my book, still get something from everything tho


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Re: Disappointing Experience on 2 Grams Ecuador [Re: EtrainMD]
    #27042289 - 11/16/20 01:52 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Capsules could be a factor because the psilocin will get into your system more gradually, but it's really hard to predict potency for a batch of mushrooms. 2 grams from 2 different grows of the same strain could result in wildly different trips. If you're worried about nausea you could try tea, but otherwise I would just experiment around with this batch until you find a good dose(So yes, probably increase dose).


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Re: Disappointing Experience on 2 Grams Ecuador [Re: jesusfish]
    #27043001 - 11/16/20 09:25 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think there's any guaranteed way to "avoid a bad experience" because often those turn out to be the most useful. 

Try tea, and raise the dosage however much you're comfortable with knowing it's exponential - twice the dose is usually 4 x the effect. 

But 2 g is on the low side for most people. :cookiemonster:


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Re: Disappointing Experience on 2 Grams Ecuador [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #27043050 - 11/16/20 09:52 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

IDK that the strain necessarily means anything about potency. (besides the penis envy strains) I've had one batch of B+ that was awesome and another batch that wasn't as potent. That could be due to environmental conditions for all I know. Apparently potency can vary from mushroom to mushroom within the same batch unless they are all clones.

But typically, all I get from 2 grams is anxiety, abstract thinking, and some mild closed eye visuals. 3g is where I have a "trip", 4-5+g is where I really blast off.

My recommendation is to take more. Maybe like 3.5g next time and see how that goes. If you weren't completely blown away, then take at least a week off and increase the dose again.


Edited by Rise against (11/16/20 09:53 PM)


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