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What’s the best action for an evolving species?
    #27040978 - 11/15/20 05:30 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I was kinda wondering what the best action would be for an evolving species.  Would the best route be to hide from the environment?  Evolve to the point where we once lived without protective coverings to the point that a full on suit or bubble is required to stay alive.  Do we hide from every little thing that is within our natural environment?  Do we need to create a microclimate suspended from our bodies?  Create a filter so we can breathe purified air?  How about we terraform the planet to fit our needs?  We can remove the native food and biological carbon sequestering flora.  Oh wait maybe that’s the problem.

  Well I say we should live on this planet as a human race.  As a people willing to live and die naturally.  Survival of the fittest.  Why are we being forced to encourage a weaker immune system?  This is unnatural.  We should not need a life preserver to go outside.  We do not need a pacifier, and hiding from the elements will only make us weaker.

  Stay home stay safe.  Can’t wait till trump back on his game.  That was a close election huh Biden almost got it.


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Re: What’s the best action for an evolving species? [Re: Hunter hunter] * 3
    #27040988 - 11/15/20 05:36 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

1) not fuck up the earth
2) work on transcending ones human body
3) expand into space at all cost


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Re: What’s the best action for an evolving species? [Re: Asante]
    #27040997 - 11/15/20 05:42 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I like it.  I think the next step is the final frontier.  Soon crossing vast distances of space will be nothing more than an oceanic cruise.


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Re: What’s the best action for an evolving species? [Re: Hunter hunter] * 1
    #27041003 - 11/15/20 05:50 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

If your human body is either replaced by a synthetic body or readily repairable like a machine, long space journeys cease to be a problem.

Right now we could be astronauts minds uploaded in the VR simulator of a little spacecraft flying to another star, and once there, The Rapture! we all get downloaded back into actual bodies in the real world again.

Thats a way you can solve how to spend the time it takes to starhop if close-to-light-speed travel is impossible.

If we can nachieve it, we can fly to the galactic center and back in 40 years for us, while on earth 60,000 years have passed due to time slowing at relativistic speeds.

This whole life you lived could be the VR entertainment while going from A to B in the real world.


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Re: What’s the best action for an evolving species? [Re: Asante] * 1
    #27041563 - 11/16/20 04:00 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

the best action for an evolving species is learning to cooperate, both with members of its own species, and with it's enviornment and other species.

"survival of the fittest" is a horrible, horrible idea that never should have taken off. there was a great article about it, "survival of the snuggliest" or survival of the friendliest or the like that explained in great detail why, but i can't find it. I think it was on pocket a long time ago. basically though, when it's about survival of the fittest, it's all about you, and there's no wiggle room for experimentation with evolution. you're on a razor's edge, and if you're not at the peak of your game, you die.

once you cooperate with others though? you're allowed to make mistakes, because you can specialize and act as a sort of "super-organism". for instance, mice huddling together can share body warmth, allowing them to conserve body heat, and thus, save calories. this means they can experiment evolutionwise, with things like fur, perhaps finding novel solutions (such as perhaps different kinds of fur - some might suck balls at holding heat...but some might be shockingly insulating, and thus, an evolutionary leap forward - saving further calories and evolving further, such as say, smarter brains.)

indeed, it's likely that it was humanity's increased cooperation between members and evolving language caused them to become the dominant species on earth - they gained an evolutionary edge, which allowed them to evolve further, their language and social skilled evolved more, which led to further evolution and brain development, leading to further social development, causing a positive feedback loop that is (hopefully) still occurring to this day.


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Re: What’s the best action for an evolving species? [Re: Psion] * 1
    #27041634 - 11/16/20 05:48 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Biden almost got it eh :rofl:

Literally half of the country is meeting the definition of psychosis right now.


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Re: What’s the best action for an evolving species? [Re: Hunter hunter]
    #27041727 - 11/16/20 07:23 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Who knows, maybe something good will come of it in the end.


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Re: What’s the best action for an evolving species? [Re: thirtygoats]
    #27041754 - 11/16/20 07:42 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

The whole world is detaching from the old paradigm to, in their time and way, latch on to the new paradigm bwith both hands.

We're moving from a ME society to a WE society.

Kennedy said: "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

In Southern Africa the philosophy of Ubuntu states "I am because we are."

Which is exactly the same if you think about it.

We owe everything to society so we must give back and do our best to make it better.

Even the white supremacists believe that (13 words) but they just want to confine it to a race.

We cannot confine it to a nation, a race or even the human species.

Look what the hell we are doing to the world, we are damning all our children.

We have to expand the scope of US, to all nations, all races and beyond humanity, to ALL THE LIFE OF EARTH.

The greater good is here to personally act in the best interest of ALL LIFE OF EARTH, not just present life, but for the good of our forefathers and offspring also.

ME has to become WE and WE has to include ALL THE LIFE OF EARTH OF ALL TIME.

We have to expand our horizon, beyond nationalism, beyond racialism, beyond speciesism towards the Greater Good of ALL, even the grasshoppers and sea cucumbers.

THIS IS HAPPENING.

But we must accellerate that process.

This is why the world is getting increasingly unhinged.

More and more people are realizing that the selfish paradigm is not the way.

I show you here, the way.

To realize your selfish interest is dependent on the wellbeing of others, all others, and to work together instead of compete.

The Manhattan Project approach: let all the experts in the world unite as one and tackle a problem together whjile society gives them right of way; thats how shit gets done :biggestnuke:

We should do this with everything, lets say invent the most energy efficient and durable lightbulb. Not for one company, no a general mechanism on how it can get done at the state of the art of technology, then hand the blueprint to ALL the companies.

Thats how you get things done.

TOGETHER IN UNISON FOR ALL OF US.

That will be the future because its the only strategy that won't kill us.

I tell you nothing new, but I tell you why the world is losing its mind and what it will lead to.




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Re: What’s the best action for an evolving species? [Re: Asante] * 1
    #27041909 - 11/16/20 09:21 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

The true calling is to give ourselves enough free time to explore these things, you cant do that when your in debt and working all the time.


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Re: What’s the best action for an evolving species? [Re: Hunter hunter]
    #27042156 - 11/16/20 12:02 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I was kinda wondering what the best action would be for an evolving species.



Dominate the environment and all organisms on it and consume them until your species is a planet wide monoculture. When the microbes attack harness their energy through science to create a portal to jump to the next water world and repeat the process.


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Re: What’s the best action for an evolving species? [Re: Hunter hunter]
    #27042428 - 11/16/20 03:35 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

To think you have any level of agency over evolution in the first place is misguided at best. To try and derive other actions from there... It doesn't look good, mate.


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Re: What’s the best action for an evolving species? [Re: christopera]
    #27042548 - 11/16/20 05:03 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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To think you have any level of agency over evolution in the first place is misguided at best. To try and derive other actions from there... It doesn't look good, mate.





I was just thinking that our actions direct the path to our evolution.  And if the selection of certain habits change the outcome, then possibly we could work towards an outcome that is beneficial in the long run that overall encourages a healthier species.


  Trump got this in the bag don’t worry.  We won’t be pushed around any longer.


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Re: What’s the best action for an evolving species? [Re: Hunter hunter] * 1
    #27042571 - 11/16/20 05:18 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of evolutionary science.

Trump 2024.

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Re: What’s the best action for an evolving species? [Re: Hunter hunter]
    #27042582 - 11/16/20 05:26 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I was kinda wondering what the best action would be for an evolving species.  Would the best route be to hide from the environment?  Evolve to the point where we once lived without protective coverings to the point that a full on suit or bubble is required to stay alive.  Do we hide from every little thing that is within our natural environment?  Do we need to create a microclimate suspended from our bodies?  Create a filter so we can breathe purified air?  How about we terraform the planet to fit our needs?  We can remove the native food and biological carbon sequestering flora.  Oh wait maybe that’s the problem.

  Well I say we should live on this planet as a human race.  As a people willing to live and die naturally.  Survival of the fittest.  Why are we being forced to encourage a weaker immune system?  This is unnatural.  We should not need a life preserver to go outside.  We do not need a pacifier, and hiding from the elements will only make us weaker.

  Stay home stay safe.  Can’t wait till trump back on his game.  That was a close election huh Biden almost got it.



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Re: What’s the best action for an evolving species? [Re: christopera]
    #27042594 - 11/16/20 05:35 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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You have a fundamental misunderstanding of evolutionary science.

Trump 2024.

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    Care to explain?  I would think if we hid from the sun over generations eventually we would lose pigment in the skin and maybe lose our sight?  If we do not allow children to build an immune system at a young age they tend to have issues later in life.  Some say children who have had dogs grow up to be healthier.  So I’d think that hiding from each other and not allowing our collective immunity to strengthen, then in the long run we are going to become even more susceptible to illness. 

    I could see our efforts at trying to eradicate bugs actually biting us in the ass.  We are doing our best to build stronger viruses that evolve into things much more virulent and resistant to antivirals than anything we currently are dealing with.  I say let nature take its course.  The action I am saying to take is actually an inaction. 

    Dude Trump is the shit.  Fuck yea.  Ever watched idiocracy?


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Re: What’s the best action for an evolving species? [Re: Hunter hunter]
    #27044587 - 11/17/20 09:04 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Electrolytes, its what plants crave.


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