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First trip EVAH! * 1
    #27038475 - 11/14/20 09:29 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Ok, I have PTSD and anxiety. Wanted to try Pharmaceutical Ketamine but too expensive. Read that Mushrooms are capable of the same results. Couldn't find mushrooms in my area so I ordered some cube spores from Sporeworks.com and received 4 syringes of "golden teachers". Successfully cultivated the spores in to useable mushrooms, dried them and there they sit. I am too scared! No one I know has any experience with them and this is uncharted territory for me. figure when I do try it will be lemon tek with powered mushrooms. I guess my first question is, "if *&*!@*%^#@ said they are GT's then are they  in fact GT's? The mushies I grew are my avatar pic. I was considering a 2.5g first dose as I am rather large and I have also a high tolerance to most drugs. Any advice?


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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: ludwigs32]
    #27038482 - 11/14/20 09:35 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Don't do powdered lemon tek your first time...
Just do a water extraction aka mushroom tea.
2.5g sounds a good place to start.
set aside your expectations and take the proper time to be ready mentally for anything :thumbup:

also :fuckyeah:


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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #27038512 - 11/14/20 09:54 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Make sure you have some calming music on standby so if you do get a bit too anxious you won't have to worry about finding something to put on; can just press play.
Make sure it's music you actually enjoy though. Some 'music for relaxation' mix on youtube isn't going to help if you can't stand that sort of music usually lol


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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: InnerWisdom] * 1
    #27038534 - 11/14/20 10:11 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

My experience:

I'm past 50. Last year I did mushrooms for the first time. I never did any drugs. To date, I have not done weed, even though it is legal here now. I only drink alcohol in moderation (1 or 2 beers). If someone had offered me mushrooms before, I would have probably refused. But I've been dealing with depression my whole life (probably some PTSD as well). I was at the point I was barely able to do my job because of depression. First time I did less than one gram. It offered much needed relief. When I tried 2 g the constant yawning was very annoying but I felt better the next day. 3.5 g were physically uncomfortable (leg cramps and yawning). I tried then 2 g in tea tek again. Drank half of it only. And drank the other half an hour later. It was much better and almost no annoying yawning. I didn't want to use them "too often". Last time it was 4 months without taking them. At that point I realized I was foolish to wait so long until I slipped back into depression (not as bad as before but still enough to impair my enjoyment of life and work). My wife is the only person who knows I take them. When I told her that maybe I shouldn't wait so long to take mushrooms again she was like, "duh! Why do you wait so long if it is helping you a lot!". I somehow still wish I didn't have to depend on them. But antidepressants don't really work for me, one needs to take them every day and they have many undesired side effects. I don't have a sitter or friend. Always alone with my dog. But starting with 1 g is very safe and nothing gets out of control. Latter you can increase the dose and experiment.

Also look for information about tripping safely at tripsafe.org

Good luck. You'll be fine my friend. Avoid reading or watching the news a few days before your trip. Instead watch funny things, inspirational videos, music. Avoid anything that would unnecessarily increase your stress or put you in a mindset that makes you focus in the negative.


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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: VP123]
    #27038537 - 11/14/20 10:14 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

And yes. They are GTs. Don't worry.


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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: VP123]
    #27038669 - 11/14/20 12:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

so just soak 2.5g in 140F water for 20 minutes and then slug it back? Why not lemon tek and thank you for the advice!


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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: ludwigs32]
    #27038767 - 11/14/20 01:18 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Lemon tek comes on even faster than tea. Generally, for your first time, it's best to aim for a slower come up so you adjust to the new feelings and sensations.


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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: VP123] * 1
    #27038984 - 11/14/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

So I am blasting off as we speak. 2.4g of golden teachers in spearmint tea. I love spearmint tea lol. Your words are reassuring and comforting. my set and setting are solid. Getting ready to enjoy a campfire and some Enya maybe. Thank you for that. I will try to report back as my experience progresses.


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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: ludwigs32]
    #27038992 - 11/14/20 03:14 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

:aweyeah: :alphabrain:


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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: ludwigs32]
    #27039000 - 11/14/20 03:21 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Good luck! Have fun in Mushroom world!


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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: jesusfish]
    #27039074 - 11/14/20 04:03 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Hope you're having a great time OP.  :trippinbawelz:


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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: Northerner]
    #27039077 - 11/14/20 04:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

:chesire:


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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: pineninja]
    #27039099 - 11/14/20 04:26 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

This is my one hour check back. I feel a little rubbery, thought I saw everything in my vision slip low and to the left like everything was on a sheet. It snapped right back and I started yawning A LOT! I consumed it in mint tea. 140f. was that to hot? did I break it lol? anyway about to go chill and watch a movie. feels like I could sleep. Maybe it will ramp up later. I will check back


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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: ludwigs32]
    #27039103 - 11/14/20 04:28 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

:poast:


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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: ludwigs32]
    #27039104 - 11/14/20 04:28 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yawning means it's working.

Even a gentle first time with sight trip is a good result.

Just relax and go with it bud.:elmo:


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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: pineninja]
    #27039559 - 11/14/20 08:49 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

the yawning and the tearing during the peaks. My eyes would be leaking like crazy.


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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: ludwigs32]
    #27039560 - 11/14/20 08:51 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

How is it now that you're riding the waves of the last few effects?


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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: jesusfish]
    #27040002 - 11/15/20 06:59 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

So I wonder if my tea was a little to warm. The other people I was with were having a fantastic time. Laughing, visuals and introspection. They all consumed lemon tek. My experience was different, weaker if you will. I stayed rubbery for the rest of the evening. Very calm and rubbery. Also felt "at peace" all evening long. I was disappointed that I didn't have a more vivid experience but the experience I had was positive and notable. I felt good, my body was comfortable like wearing a fluffy blanket fresh from the dryer. coordination was a sketchy thing. Felt drunk but I wasn't. I know that sounds weird but its the only way I can explain it. I will most certainly do that again. I will adjust tek and dose like cooking a steak, until I reach my desired level of doneness! Thanks everyone for hanging with me. Until next time...


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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: ludwigs32]
    #27040590 - 11/15/20 01:31 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Glad to hear you had a good introductory experience!
That sounds like 2.5g if you are a heavy dude.
Boiling water can't degrade the active substances, you have to get much higher heat for that.
Go 3.5g next time.
also did you chop up the mushrooms good into the water and stir sufficiently?
I am a little jealous of that mushrooms by the campfire experience, as I haven't had them in such a setting :awesome:


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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: ludwigs32]
    #27040602 - 11/15/20 01:36 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Are you taking medication at all OP? That can stop shrooms working.


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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: Northerner]
    #27041571 - 11/16/20 04:12 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

i take a .55 every day, i put a thermometer in mine every time and don't throw my mushies in till it's just under 120. I can notice every time i skip testing temp and just throw it in while it's still steaming.


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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: HappyHigh]
    #27041781 - 11/16/20 08:00 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yep. Turns out there is a TCA in my regimen. I am going to stop taking it 5 days before my next attempt. Never even thought about that. Thanks!


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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: ludwigs32] * 1
    #27041985 - 11/16/20 10:04 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

If you're going to stop a TCA and try shrooms you should really taper over a few weeks rather than stopping abruptly. You don't want to be in pharma withdrawal and tripping.


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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: Northerner] * 3
    #27046087 - 11/18/20 06:35 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I just realized why they call this a trip. Wow. I'll be back!


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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: ludwigs32]
    #27046502 - 11/18/20 09:44 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Safe travels. :naturetrip:


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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: pineninja]
    #27046543 - 11/18/20 10:17 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Try out that lemon tek next time if you want a more intense trip, the come up  can happen within 10-20 minutes depending on how strong the dose is.


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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: ludwigs32]
    #27046629 - 11/19/20 12:37 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I just realized why they call this a trip. Wow. I'll be back!




Welcome back to baseline consciousness!

Did you manage to remember any of your trip? Can you report it so we can see? :sunny:


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    #27046650 - 11/19/20 12:54 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Try out that lemon tek next time if you want a more intense trip, the come up  can happen within 10-20 minutes depending on how strong the dose is.



How long do you find the trip to last with lemon tek? I've only tried it once and had read that it shortened the trip along with intensifying it. Defiantly intensified it and I'd taken the same dose maybe 3 weeks before so had a good frame of reference, but found it lasted just as long.
Also to OP I found the lemon tek made me feel a bit more energetic than just straight munching the dried shroom.. might have been the setting though.


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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: ludwigs32]
    #27046678 - 11/19/20 01:40 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I just realized why they call this a trip. Wow. I'll be back!



I remember that feeling from my first trip in April :hereyougo::loveheart:

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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #27046863 - 11/19/20 08:06 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I wonder if that's a universal feeling on first trips because I had exactly that thought my first time lol


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    #27046927 - 11/19/20 08:47 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Let me start by detailing my dose. Both of these experiences involved 2.5g of golden teachers. The first was powdered and steeped in spearmint tea and the second was just me cookie monstering them down and chasing with some country time lemonade. My first trip was very weak. This time it was a journey. At first, I likened my actions to that of a 2 year old being made to pick up his toys, fighting, kicking and screaming. this lasted for about an hour. I was gritty, angry and an all around dick. Then something happened. I did not let go, the medicine did that for me. I had no choice. The medicine was going to take me where it thought I needed to go. Like a light switch. I went from anxious, emotional and angry to deep introspection and peace. My thought process was completely "out of the box" so to speak. I realized that my world had become angular and soft and I started to process past traumatic events and making "sense" of them in a way that I can not convey through words. This journey was a struggle that ended in profound satisfaction and I truly believe that transforming my thought process through the experience of the journey will have a profound and lasting effect on my consciousness. The reason I believe this is called a trip, my mushies have just taken me on a mild yet guided experience through my consciousness. Full circle if you will. And that my friends, is a trip. And until next time, mush love.


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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: ludwigs32]
    #27046947 - 11/19/20 09:03 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

When I first started experimenting I started at low doses & was kind of disappointed in the results. I'm 280lb & it takes double+ the standard dosage to feel it. I did ramp myself up slowly to get to this point to be safe. When I would take a lower dose I would sit there & coming up was real slow & miserable. When I started with more you jumped over that break-over point from sober to tripping. When I start to feel good there's a mayan stone looking monkey with red eyes that ask me "you wanna come out & play" As long as your in a safe place throwing some more grams in the tea will be enjoyed.


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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: sam11]
    #27047323 - 11/19/20 01:03 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Try out that lemon tek next time if you want a more intense trip, the come up  can happen within 10-20 minutes depending on how strong the dose is.



How long do you find the trip to last with lemon tek? I've only tried it once and had read that it shortened the trip along with intensifying it. Defiantly intensified it and I'd taken the same dose maybe 3 weeks before so had a good frame of reference, but found it lasted just as long.
Also to OP I found the lemon tek made me feel a bit more energetic than just straight munching the dried shroom.. might have been the setting though.




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Re: First trip EVAH! [Re: Blazer420]
    #27048415 - 11/20/20 06:06 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

To the OP you may want to edit your first post to not include the name of the company you ordered your spores from


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