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I found my first cyans in Tacoma today! I didn't expect them to smell so distinct.
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Saeurcybe
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Psilopsychic said: Yeah i heard to never wash mush once picked, i just rub off any debris with a paper towel and send em straight to the dehydrator. Kind of a pain in the ass but worth the trouble
They oxidize if you leave them wet. If you're quick about it (dry them off right away) it doesn't matter.
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Shroomhunts
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Dont clean them, try to keep your collection clean but dirt in the mushrooms is not a problem, it will come off after they are dry much easier. It is good practice to keep a bag for the cleanest mushrooms and a bag for the the lower grade harvest, mushrooms that are dirty or past peak ripeness
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Wolfred
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Shroomhunts said: Dont clean them, try to keep your collection clean but dirt in the mushrooms is not a problem, it will come off after they are dry much easier. It is good practice to keep a bag for the cleanest mushrooms and a bag for the the lower grade harvest, mushrooms that are dirty or past peak ripeness
Dude take an Invertebrate Zoology course and you'll never even think about "NOT" washing your mushrooms ever again if your planning on eating them; especially if your eating them fresh. Washing them will probably mess up the spores, but unless your doing some kind of cultivation with them I'd definitely be washing them first. It's not going to mess up the potency or anything, that's a wives tale.
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Re: Invertebrate Zoology [Re: Wolfred] 1
#27037985 - 11/14/20 12:04 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Usually eat them fresh from the ground as god intended. Washing them will decrease the potency, your psilocybin is going down the drain buddy. I remember when I made my first finds I washed them off and the water was blue from all the lost psilocybin lol. Maybe if they were growing from dung I'd wash em tho. what the fuck you scared of eating dirt bruh native peoples have eaten dirt as part of diet long before you went to grocery store to get your prepackaged processed garbage. If anything it will improve your digestive health.
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Wolfred
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Shroomhunts said: Usually eat them fresh from the ground as god intended. Washing them will decrease the potency, your psilocybin is going down the drain buddy. I remember when I made my first finds I washed them off and the water was blue from all the lost psilocybin lol. Maybe if they were growing from dung I'd wash em tho. what the fuck you scared of eating dirt bruh native peoples have eaten dirt as part of diet long before you went to grocery store to get your prepackaged processed garbage. If anything it will improve your digestive health.
Dude! .... Washing shrooms does nothing to the potency; the blue colour you are seeing in the water is from the purple brown spores, not from lost psilocibin. You obviously wouldn't be letting them sit there and soak because that's a different story and is unnecessary. I can assure you that native people did indeed wash their food if it was possible, including the mushrooms that the shaman's would often use. I laugh at some of these hard core vegan's who think that not washing their vegetables is cool. All I can say is if they get a belly full'o gravid worms they will have nobody else to blame but themselves.
Edited by Wolfred (11/14/20 12:54 AM)
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Shroomhunts
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Re: Invertebrate Zoology [Re: Wolfred]
#27038053 - 11/14/20 01:06 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bruh you have worms in your gut they are digesting all the meat and processed food you eat. You are surviving on their poop. And I didn't mean unwashed food I mean they literally eat dirt, commonly certain types of clay, it is a staple in their diet. Thank you for the laugh tho, your body is a complex system of organisms living together to survive, that's part of what makes humans so adaptable is our ability to change the ecology to survive under a vast array of hardships. I'm sorry for thread hijacking, let's see some more pnw finds
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John_1098
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Re: Invertebrate Zoology [Re: Wolfred]
#27038115 - 11/14/20 02:27 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wolfred said:
Dude! .... Washing shrooms does nothing to the potency; the blue colour you are seeing in the water is from the purple brown spores, not from lost psilocibin. You obviously wouldn't be letting them sit there and soak because that's a different story and is unnecessary. I can assure you that native people did indeed wash their food if it was possible, including the mushrooms that the shaman's would often use. I laugh at some of these hard core vegan's who think that not washing their vegetables is cool. All I can say is if they get a belly full'o gravid worms they will have nobody else to blame but themselves.
That is false, you'll loose a significant amount of alkaloids. Thats a well known fact. Sure some will be left behind and maybe you can still trip from them. It is not a good idea.
Some noob will read that and ruin their shrooms because you spout out your glaringly ignorant uninformed speculations as facts.
Maybe try NOT washing the mushrooms before you eat them next time because they dont appear to be doing much for you
can you please explain how purple brown equals blue?? what the fuck are you saying
Edited by John_1098 (11/14/20 03:30 AM)
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John_1098
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Re: Invertebrate Zoology [Re: John_1098]
#27038132 - 11/14/20 02:53 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I come here to post and view some sick pictures and woldfred youre still over here clogging up the thread with petty stuff, come on lets just live and let live or whaever they say. Maybe find somewhere else to start shit if you just need to scratch that itch.

these all grew from a water bottle 2/3 full of spore water dumped here last spring. I did not expect really anything this season, I still cant believe how well it worked.
It was hard to capture the scope of how big it was with only a flashlight and phones flash but you can see how far back the army of stems goes
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Edited by John_1098 (11/14/20 02:56 AM)
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Re: Invertebrate Zoology [Re: Wolfred]
#27038139 - 11/14/20 02:59 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you think washing active mushrooms won't extract alkaloids explain this picture I took of a Panaeolus cyanescens cap in cold water for less than a minute:

Remember Panaeolus cyanescens spores are jet black, this water is blue.
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Re: Invertebrate Zoology [Re: John_1098]
#27038145 - 11/14/20 03:14 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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this has me even more stoked then I already was. If my pathetic half ass attempts at spreading them last season worked this well. Thatpoints towards fall 2021 my area will have EVEN MORE of an absolutely fucking Ludacris season for everyone near here and their extended family, and everyone they know.
I know what Im doing this time around. Also have been blessed with everything I need falling into place perfectly. Just tonight I drove around an area maybe 40-50X this size throwing spawn everywhere Out my windows while slowly rolling and way up into the air all around me because the whole place is woodchips regularly having more added and I dont even need to do the hard part. This proves the climate is right for them to thrive it one of many places Ive got my eyes on. this is my life this winter/spring lol
Edited by John_1098 (11/14/20 03:27 AM)
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Re: Invertebrate Zoology [Re: John_1098]
#27038166 - 11/14/20 03:48 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Haven't found any psilocybe yet but the amanitas have started really popping where I'm at finally.
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Re: Invertebrate Zoology [Re: GreenHorns]
#27038173 - 11/14/20 04:08 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I went back to look at the walmart stuntzii and the storm shreded them up pretty good. I was never going to pick them anyways just like watching them. As far As I know nno one has noticed them or ever picked enough to be noticed even with 100s of people walking passed them everyday. Theyre not even slightly hidden just out in the open. Last season there were loads of them and it kept fruitig into march. They are always un touched everytime I stop by, weird
 I know they dont look like stuntzii here but they definitly are below is an old pic, this culster in the exacte(down to the inch) spot as the pictures above. I cant find any better old pics for some reason. They are 100% for sure stuntzii tho thats mypoint
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Wolfred
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Re: Invertebrate Zoology [Re: John_1098]
#27038222 - 11/14/20 05:46 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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John_1098 said:
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Wolfred said:
Dude! .... Washing shrooms does nothing to the potency; the blue colour you are seeing in the water is from the purple brown spores, not from lost psilocibin. You obviously wouldn't be letting them sit there and soak because that's a different story and is unnecessary. I can assure you that native people did indeed wash their food if it was possible, including the mushrooms that the shaman's would often use. I laugh at some of these hard core vegan's who think that not washing their vegetables is cool. All I can say is if they get a belly full'o gravid worms they will have nobody else to blame but themselves.
That is false, you'll loose a significant amount of alkaloids. Thats a well known fact. Sure some will be left behind and maybe you can still trip from them. It is not a good idea.
Some noob will read that and ruin their shrooms because you spout out your glaringly ignorant uninformed speculations as facts.
Maybe try NOT washing the mushrooms before you eat them next time because they dont appear to be doing much for you
can you please explain how purple brown equals blue?? what the fuck are you saying
Dude you don't know wtf your talking about, I was picking mushrooms since before you were just a meatball on your momas plate of spaghetti. Back when I was young and uneducated I used to eat them while picking without rinsing them off so I know how potent they actually are before rinsing.
I now rinse them off ("NOT" letting them sit there and soak by the way because that's *#tarded) before eating or drying and it has absolutely no effect on the potency; that's from practical experience son.
Any small amount of alkaloids that might dissolve in the water while rinsing is negligible. The water may have a purple tinge to it which may make some people think that it's psilocybin but it's actually just spores.
If you want to take the risk of getting worms, be my guest. Like I said before, go take an Invertebrate Zoology course and you won't even think about it anymore.
Noobs don't listen to that clown, it will not ruin your shrooms to carefully rinse them off. All the hard core vegans are gonna start whining now. 
Here are some Baeos I rinsed off before eating, and believe me, they were extremely "POTENT" 
Edited by Wolfred (11/14/20 06:23 AM)
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CHUCK.HNTR
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Re: Invertebrate Zoology [Re: John_1098]
#27038463 - 11/14/20 09:23 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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John_1098 said: I come here to post and view some sick pictures and woldfred youre still over here clogging up the thread with petty stuff, come on lets just live and let live or whaever they say. Maybe find somewhere else to start shit if you just need to scratch that itch.

these all grew from a water bottle 2/3 full of spore water dumped here last spring. I did not expect really anything this season, I still cant believe how well it worked.
It was hard to capture the scope of how big it was with only a flashlight and phones flash but you can see how far back the army of stems goes
Super cool John well done! How did you prepare the spore water? Sacrifice a cap to a bottle and shake or collect them on foil and scrape? How many mushrooms worth of spores?
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Re: Invertebrate Zoology [Re: John_1098]
#27038539 - 11/14/20 10:14 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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John_1098 said: I come here to post and view some sick pictures and woldfred youre still over here clogging up the thread with petty stuff, come on lets just live and let live or whaever they say. Maybe find somewhere else to start shit if you just need to scratch that itch.

these all grew from a water bottle 2/3 full of spore water dumped here last spring. I did not expect really anything this season, I still cant believe how well it worked.
It was hard to capture the scope of how big it was with only a flashlight and phones flash but you can see how far back the army of stems goes
You magnificent bastard... and here I am just hoping to find a single azurescens before the season is over, lol
I'm also curious about how you did the spore water? I saw Alan show a similar pic in a lecture of a ton of chips he tossed water on. Crazy shit, just imagine if everyone that picked did a little propagation as well :O
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Re: Invertebrate Zoology [Re: Spank] 2
#27039084 - 11/14/20 04:11 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dang hope those cyans don't get rained on, they won't be strong anymore.
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Re: Invertebrate Zoology [Re: globejs]
#27039100 - 11/14/20 04:26 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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globejs said: Dang hope those cyans don't get rained on, they won't be strong anymore.
Lol xD, yeah idk why anyone is arguing about this, obviously a quick rinse isn't gonna sap all the alkaloids, the water won't even be penetrating the outside of the fruits
On a side note, I'm looking for drying advice. I'm not getting cracker dry, but like 95% of the way there. No dehydrator, just leaving em out with airflow. They always end up a little bendy. They'll crack if I really try but they'd rather bend. Help
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Re: Invertebrate Zoology [Re: Spank]
#27039141 - 11/14/20 04:47 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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The oven might be your best friend, unless you're willing to purchase a dehydrator ($60 can buy one that would be good enough - amazon) So the lowest settings on your oven with the door open the whole time should do the trick. Especially if you're gonna use the oven for the last stage only (after you dried them on open air to 95%) If you have an oven with proofing function (90 F) would be the best option. In that case you wouldn't have to worry about overheating/cooking/baking/roasting them. (I actually have no idea if too much heat would do anything bad to them)
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Re: Invertebrate Zoology [Re: ZenZone]
#27039158 - 11/14/20 04:59 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Buy a desiccant like dri-z-air or damp rid. Place a layer in the bottom of a container and place your mostly dry fruits above on another layer that will keep them from touching. This stuff turns to liquid as it absorbs moisture. A tight lid is a good idea. They should come out crunchy in a day or two
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