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Re: Here is my fruiting strategy; what do you think about it? [Re: mushhead]
#27038041 - 11/14/20 12:54 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks a lot guys... Well I guess im on a mission for a shoebox now..
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Re: Here is my fruiting strategy; what do you think about it? [Re: Chowder]
#27038137 - 11/14/20 02:58 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Also guys, I see such a war between casing or not... whats your personal preference for a shoebox?
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Re: Here is my fruiting strategy; what do you think about it? [Re: Chowder]
#27038241 - 11/14/20 06:20 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Its not a war. Its preference. Some people will say do it some will say its not necessary. I think casings are useless for cubes even PE varieties people have their superstition
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Re: Here is my fruiting strategy; what do you think about it? [Re: bodhisatta]
#27038335 - 11/14/20 07:34 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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What would you have to say about those who say a case layer promotes pinning on the top and not the sides? Or, how do you prevent side pinning in a shoebox?
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Re: Here is my fruiting strategy; what do you think about it? [Re: Chowder]
#27038339 - 11/14/20 07:39 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Skill and practice prevents side pinning.
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Re: Here is my fruiting strategy; what do you think about it? [Re: bodhisatta]
#27045113 - 11/18/20 09:05 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Preventing side pinning is easily done with a trashbag liner. Even if the block shrinks, you can pull it up closer to the block again so no space and therefore no moisture/air pinning condtitions can arise, and also no light is a huge part of it too, since light is also a pinning trigger. So use a black thick trashbag.
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Re: Here is my fruiting strategy; what do you think about it? [Re: polaritymind]
#27045197 - 11/18/20 09:51 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I’ve heard people getting side pins even with a liner cause they fuck it up... IMO why not just get some good surface conditions going for the mushies and they’ll wanna grow there and not on the sides  But again, I’m new at this and learning the ways that work best for Me  Cheers!
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Re: Here is my fruiting strategy; what do you think about it? [Re: MushroomNewbie2] 1
#27045233 - 11/18/20 10:09 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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To avoid side pins just make sure you build your tubs very level and even, tamp down the edges a little bit, and give the top layer a heavy misting after spawn.
This is about the most side pins I’ve had since I was 7-8yo
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Re: Here is my fruiting strategy; what do you think about it? [Re: Roger Clemency]
#27047036 - 11/19/20 10:11 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Youve been growing since you were 7-8 yo ??
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Re: Here is my fruiting strategy; what do you think about it? [Re: polaritymind]
#27047174 - 11/19/20 11:19 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've been cultivating since I was 14 m8. It's not farfetched to believe Roger there was learning mush cult at that age.
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Re: Here is my fruiting strategy; what do you think about it? [Re: mushhead]
#27048410 - 11/20/20 06:00 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I like to throw random ages out. We had this kid in middle school that walked with a fabricated limp and it was common practice to ask him why he was limping, because he’d say “I been limpin since I was one” in his funny way.
So 20 years later or whatever I still think of ol Javon and smile and assign random ages to random statements. I been doin it since I was one
Today’s trip down memory lane brought to you by Dasani. “It’s like water, but for poor people”
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Re: Here is my fruiting strategy; what do you think about it? [Re: mushhead]
#27048412 - 11/20/20 06:02 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey guys,
Check out my progress, hows it looking?
https://ibb.co/qpM92Dt https://ibb.co/hYvm8sQ https://ibb.co/Jm3kqXK
Should I be concerned about ths myc trying to poke upwards? Would you add a case layer at this stage, its been 7 days since spawn at 20*C (68F). Lids are upside down, no holes, no liner, no fan in the room, im just opening the window for fresh air 2x/day.
Thank a lot for your time.
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Re: Here is my fruiting strategy; what do you think about it? [Re: Chowder]
#27048470 - 11/20/20 07:28 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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One thing that helped me get no side pins was pressing down on the whole substrate and an addition of a little coir on the top, bod mentions it in his tek. You mix everything as usual, but leave some coir on the side to add on top. Once you've mixed the whole thing press it down then add the coir and press it down as well so it's level. I've seen a tek somewhere that says to spray it for a good 10 seconds and then it's set and forget the first week and a half. After that you have to make sure you have good surface conditions and there will be no side pins, no liner/casing necessary.
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Re: Here is my fruiting strategy; what do you think about it? [Re: Bedgus]
#27048542 - 11/20/20 08:35 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks Begdus, Any tipds for how to create the ideal surface conditions? Just by dialing in the GE and FAE properly?
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Re: Here is my fruiting strategy; what do you think about it? [Re: Chowder] 1
#27048560 - 11/20/20 08:48 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Gas exchange is for jars. Fae is for tubs. And yes of course dialing it in aka practice and developing skill
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Re: Here is my fruiting strategy; what do you think about it? [Re: bodhisatta]
#27048851 - 11/20/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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 Thing is you'll need to study and gauge your grow space. Some great questions to ask yourself are: What's the ambient temp of my grow room? Is the atmosphere within my grow space dry or humid? What are my weather conditions? (I have found in different seasons like summer and winter my tubs are dialed in differently) The rest does come from personal experience and practice. Especially with side pins, proper mixing of your substrate, tamping it down evenly, using a liner, and adding a casing layer are all good fixes.
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Chowder said: https://ibb.co/qpM92Dt https://ibb.co/hYvm8sQ https://ibb.co/Jm3kqXK
Looking really great! Unmodified tubs are the easiest route to take. I'm glad you abandoned those jugs. Its natural for the myc to reach like that when its conditions are right. I believe you'll be getting pins soon.
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Re: Here is my fruiting strategy; what do you think about it? [Re: mushhead]
#27049816 - 11/21/20 03:00 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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thanks a lot mushhead. I think I will apply a casing layer to some of the tubs, just as an experiment.
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Re: Here is my fruiting strategy; what do you think about it? [Re: Bedgus]
#27055240 - 11/24/20 10:04 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bedgus said: One thing that helped me get no side pins was pressing down on the whole substrate and an addition of a little coir on the top, bod mentions it in his tek. You mix everything as usual, but leave some coir on the side to add on top. Once you've mixed the whole thing press it down then add the coir and press it down as well so it's level. I've seen a tek somewhere that says to spray it for a good 10 seconds and then it's set and forget the first week and a half. After that you have to make sure you have good surface conditions and there will be no side pins, no liner/casing necessary.
so dry coir? I am confused, leave it a aside so no gypsum in it either right?
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Re: Here is my fruiting strategy; what do you think about it? [Re: polaritymind] 1
#27055403 - 11/24/20 11:48 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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No he’s just talking about using a top layer which I think should be cube SOP. You make your bulk sub, spawn the tub but leave out enough prepared bulk for a 1/4” or so layer on top.
Tamp down the edges and level everything out before adding the top layer, repeat the leveling process with that 1/4” top layer and spray the whole ordeal down a decent amount. That’s how I like to do it and the mush enjoy
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Re: Here is my fruiting strategy; what do you think about it? [Re: Roger Clemency]
#27056678 - 11/25/20 07:24 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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But why, whats the benefit? Packed coir at the same time, what difference does it make?
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