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How to nucleate the process?
    #27036410 - 11/13/20 05:39 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

A single crystal of ice is the nucleation site and place where the crystallisation of ice is triggered.



An interesting shift.

Is there any application of this idea?

"Supercooling" ourselves, and having that one crystal begin the process.

In that minute before you do the thing that is an accomplishment, a memorable one for years to come, what went through your mind?

Maybe even a memorable one for the next day to come.


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Re: How to nucleate the process? [Re: sudly]
    #27036927 - 11/13/20 11:58 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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A single crystal of ice is the nucleation site and place where the crystallisation of ice is triggered.









A single speck of dust, in this example.


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Re: How to nucleate the process? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #27037085 - 11/13/20 01:30 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

just like water, human behavior organizes itself depending on location and environment.

if you want to be supercool at room temperature, you need ample energy and need to be juxtaposed appropriately.

“JUST DID IT!” goes through my mind, because i’ve already done the thing before i even do it.


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Re: How to nucleate the process? [Re: thealienthatategod]
    #27038112 - 11/14/20 02:20 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Juxtapose ey, when ideas of idea is align.


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Re: How to nucleate the process? [Re: sudly]
    #27038398 - 11/14/20 08:33 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I think people have little habits that serve as a regulating helpful role in life.  I’ve never been real fond of mantras but a short stabilizing thought can help.


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Re: How to nucleate the process? [Re: Yellow Pants] * 1
    #27039759 - 11/15/20 12:32 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

The intention, the action, the time, and the purpose.


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Re: How to nucleate the process? [Re: sudly]
    #27039779 - 11/15/20 12:50 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Intentionally decreasing entropy appears to trigger synchronicity.


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Re: How to nucleate the process? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27039878 - 11/15/20 03:00 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Negative entropy is synonymous to synchronicity.

But still, intentionally decreasing entropy is something that should have a formula imo, for practical use in planning and following through.

The age old problem of, "I'll do it later".

I can't help but think of writers block,

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Writer's block is a condition, primarily associated with writing, in which an author loses the ability to produce new work or experiences a creative slowdown. This loss of ability to write and produce new work is not a result of commitment problems or the lack of writing skills.

The condition ranges from difficulty in coming up with original ideas to being unable to produce a work for years. Writer's block is not solely measured by time passing without writing. It is measured by time passing without productivity in the task at hand.




But instead of for creative writing it's for simple day to day tasks, so instead of writers block, maybe there's a thing called "Doers block".

Reading in to it is interesting though., referring to process theory of composition. This is at least an attempt to reason with doers block imo too.

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Teaching methods and implications
Process can be taught using a variety of methods intended to strengthen the relationship between students and instructor. In other words, classroom discussion and activities center on students' ability to mimic what has come before in hopes that they will understand what good writing is and learn to mimic it. Some of the methods include:

Prewriting activities. These could include brainstorming and/or other freewriting activities, drawing conceptual maps, participating in an ethnographic study, research, and more.

Drafting. Class time can be spent writing papers, and students can ask instructors for ideas or help.

Revision. Instructors can designate class time for the revision of drafts and direct students to focus on rhetorical strategies.

Portfolio-based assessment. Students are given a deadline, such as the end of a semester, and a goal, such as demonstrating skills like rhetorical awareness, conventional thinking, and source acceptance and integration. The intervening time is spent drafting and revising papers. Composition instructors serve as final authorities on the quality of work, helping students explore areas foreign to them, rather than more free wheeling teachers who tell students how to express their individuality. From among the papers they work on in the semester, students choose the papers the instructor considers to be their best and put them in a portfolio, which is graded by the instructor. Often students are graded on their drafts during the semester as well as on the work they produce at the end of it.

Reflection on the writing process.




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Re: How to nucleate the process? [Re: sudly] * 1
    #27039883 - 11/15/20 03:05 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Interesting little insight there, sudly; writer's block being a symptom of an overarching issue manifesting as behavior blocks. That would most certainly tie in with prevailing human behavior theories.

I'm assuming we're speculating on more quantum/field-type energies as superseding the material? That's how I've always modeled it. Etheric/Astral energies manifesting and leading the material world via constructive, or destructive, synchronicity based on the intention and perception of the self/observer.


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Re: How to nucleate the process? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27040160 - 11/15/20 08:57 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Loaded Shaman said:


I'm assuming we're speculating on more quantum/field-type energies as superseding the material? That's how I've always modeled it. Etheric/Astral energies manifesting and leading the material world via constructive, or destructive, synchronicity based on the intention and perception of the self/observer.




A Chinese philosopher informed me that water tends to flow down. Contrast that with fire of the Jinn which prefers to go up.



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Re: How to nucleate the process? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27046712 - 11/19/20 02:46 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Loaded Shaman said:
Interesting little insight there, sudly; writer's block being a symptom of an overarching issue manifesting as behavior blocks. That would most certainly tie in with prevailing human behavior theories.

I'm assuming we're speculating on more quantum/field-type energies as superseding the material? That's how I've always modeled it. Etheric/Astral energies manifesting and leading the material world via constructive, or destructive, synchronicity based on the intention and perception of the self/observer.




It's just the behavioural block I'm interested in.

What energies? Dynamic ones, and that's what I believe makes for a lot of complexity, in how to unravel it all.

Steps, a process, a rule of thumb is what I'm after.

It doesn't matter whether it's quantum, etheric, material or space jelly, just that it works. 

We have systems set up for creating buildings, for designing computers, for programming algorithms, but we do not have an overarching method of eliminating behavioural blocks.

Quite often we do eliminate the block, I do myself from time to time, but in a patchy way.
Articulating that removal of any specific behavioural block would be a 'blessing' in my view, or at least would have the potential to be so.



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Re: How to nucleate the process? [Re: sudly]
    #27046727 - 11/19/20 03:42 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Interesting little insight there, sudly; writer's block being a symptom of an overarching issue manifesting as behavior blocks. That would most certainly tie in with prevailing human behavior theories.

I'm assuming we're speculating on more quantum/field-type energies as superseding the material? That's how I've always modeled it. Etheric/Astral energies manifesting and leading the material world via constructive, or destructive, synchronicity based on the intention and perception of the self/observer.




It's just the behavioural block I'm interested in.

What energies? Dynamic ones, and that's what I believe makes for a lot of complexity, in how to unravel it all.

Steps, a process, a rule of thumb is what I'm after.

It doesn't matter whether it's quantum, etheric, material or space jelly, just that it works. 

We have systems set up for creating buildings, for designing computers, for programming algorithms, but we do not have an overarching method of eliminating behavioural blocks.

Quite often we do eliminate the block, I do myself from time to time, but in a patchy way.
Articulating that removal of any specific behavioural block would be a 'blessing' in my view, or at least would have the potential to be so.






That bolded part there, you and I think similarly. Everything is just labels for communicating the essence of an idea. Whatever works, is what works.


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Re: How to nucleate the process? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27046761 - 11/19/20 05:37 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

when you say energies, I think you mean changing mind forms that are sensed: some of which have sparkle, or seem flame like, and others flash between points like electricity. some seem to be consistent with the lore about chakkras.

these mind forms do not exhibit the physics types of behaviors of energy, they do not do work, they can tirelessly consume no fuel, and they may not even be directly associated with anything that is happening: this is because they are a side effect of entheogenic activity (drugs, emotion, and or meditation/yoga)  By this I mean, if you put your hand in a simple mudra, you may feel energy between your thumb and finger, it may be very strong, It may look like a mandala, or sparkles or just a blue glow, while feeling tingly.



for some of us this experience is immediate, but it is not etheric energy, it is a byproduct of holding the mind in place at that location.
signals keep pinging into the brain. these are copied or enhanced by attention.
a distraction may include sensations of energy through the body just from becoming aware of the mudra pose.
if it is etheric energy, then the definition of etheric should be imaginative.


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Re: How to nucleate the process? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27047021 - 11/19/20 10:01 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

cool guy very roomy very earthy

how I like it


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Re: How to nucleate the process? [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27047111 - 11/19/20 10:50 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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cool guy very roomy very earthy

how I like it



you mean that picture of my cousin (maybe 10 years ago) making a mudra upon which I blended in the stained glass mandala?

yes he is a cool guy.
got me into Buddhism while I was investigating Paramahansa Yogananda in 1967. He has taught me many things, especially not to take myself seriously.


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Re: How to nucleate the process? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27047234 - 11/19/20 11:58 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

yes it's a cool world and a cool person


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Re: How to nucleate the process? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27047238 - 11/19/20 12:00 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I know that guy he introduced lsd to you

and you introduced buddhism to him

and then he taught dharma and you got a never ending journey

:laugh:!!! :mushroom2:


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Re: How to nucleate the process? [Re: Ferdinando] * 1
    #27047518 - 11/19/20 03:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I know that guy he introduced lsd to you

and you introduced buddhism to him

and then he taught dharma and you got a never ending journey

:laugh:!!! :mushroom2:



he introduced Buddhism to me, but our parents already knew that I was exploring, and when he went to be a monk in Thailand, they thought I sent him, but I did not send him, I just wished I were older so that I could go too, at that time.
afterwards I learned that it did not exactly make any difference where you are, only if you are honest with yourself and make enough gentle effort to relax and connect with totality.

we talked a little bit about lsd, but only meditated together.

a few years after that, another friend allowed me to kidnap his weekend and take lsd with him on a friday night. I left him alone in his room and after the clock went backwards for a few hours I walked 2 miles home barefoot, My mother was waiting on the front steps and my dad woke up and yelled at me - It was great!


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Re: How to nucleate the process? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27047670 - 11/19/20 04:41 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

What difference would it make if alien telekenisis powered our Tv's?


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Re: How to nucleate the process? [Re: sudly]
    #27047700 - 11/19/20 05:01 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

which TV's?

the analog ones or the locked down digital ones.


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