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marmota89
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Interested in psychedelics. Please Help
#27036388 - 11/13/20 04:51 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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1. I want to start with a low dose of liberty caps. About 2g dried. What should be my expectations? Is it like weed? Can i control myself and act sober when I want? 
2. And another question, how its like at heroic dose? How safe it is ? I mean what are the chances if I take them in my room to woke up in the mud outside? I mean at higher doses can't you really control anything?
3. And another question, I got a friend who wants to try shrooms too but he's underage. What do you think? Me an my friends excluding him are over 19.Do you think it is safe for his mental health?
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Re: Interested in psychedelics. Please Help [Re: marmota89]
#27036395 - 11/13/20 05:01 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I did about 1.5mg of LSD when I was 17. I don't think it had a negative effect on me, it told me everything I needed to know, and I could control myself. That's LSD though...if your friend has a history of any mental illness, then take caution. Mushrooms are known to be more difficult to control. At lower doses they are manageable, just remember that at some point, things will look...better than they do normally haha.
At a higher dose it's almost like the air is flowing water, that's the visual distortion you're going to he experiencing, at the very least. Shifting light and shadows, outlines of shapes and objects moving randomly, everything becomes "alive" in a sense.
At super high doses I just remember having my eyes closed for about 90 minutes watching my mind get blown by the closed eye visuals-- CEVs. That's when you just want to lie down for that part of the experience.
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Re: Interested in psychedelics. Please Help [Re: skOsH]
#27036400 - 11/13/20 05:10 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do you think it's better to try LSD rather than shrooms?
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Re: Interested in psychedelics. Please Help [Re: marmota89]
#27036406 - 11/13/20 05:27 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Depends on personality. Usually people do a low dose of shrooms with friends for their first psychedelic experience
Its hard to act sober on shrooms as compared to lsd. Lsd lasts twice as long though, so if you plan on doing that I would plan out a lot of leisurely activities...either way,
I think the best way to start with psychedelics is to do shrooms with friends, just remember they take a while to take effect, and a couple hours to peak. The first time I did shrooms with friends we just ate a couple caps per hour depending on how we were feeling. Needless to say we were wondering why we were too high about five hours in, so don't do that. I think a low dose with friends would be ideal. Usually an eighth is considered a standard dose per person, but it varies. Some people can be sensitive and react the same way with 1-2g as 3.5g
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Re: Interested in psychedelics. Please Help [Re: skOsH]
#27036457 - 11/13/20 06:38 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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1. I would not consider 2g a low dose for liberty caps. Those things are smaller but more potent by weight than cubes.
2. Heroic dose will test every facet of your life, for better or for worse. If you are in a bad place looking to get out, this will be a very difficult (but also rewarding) experience. A heroic dose will never be easy but if you are in a good state of mind and a good place in your life, doing this will be a "breakthrough."
3. He's probably too young to know if he has any underlying mental conditions or family history and doesn't understand the potential risks that could be associated with mushrooms. Psilocybin is an amazing thing but only when taken properly.
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Re: Interested in psychedelics. Please Help [Re: plut0]
#27036814 - 11/13/20 10:35 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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2. Yes but my point is what is the level of consciousness when you are under a 4g+ dose of shrooms, or a high dose/heroic of any psychedelics?
I mean it is like weed? Can you still be aware of what is happening(time, space, thoughts, things happening around you) or it is like a blackout from alcohol? So like when I smoke weed, I say to myself "oh I just smoked now I'm here it's ok just chill" but when you're under a high dose of psychedelics can you still manage to do this or you are lost from reality. I mean like Salvia Divinorum does this. And I was asking if you can still control yourself after taking psychedelics because I don't want to hurt myself or do stupid things.
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Re: Interested in psychedelics. Please Help [Re: marmota89]
#27037273 - 11/13/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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You can check trip reports on Erowid. There's a whole bunch of them.
The experience also varies between people and according to their sensitivity. It's not really similar to weed, they cause different sensations, different though patterns, different visuals, different headspace. You CAN hurt yourself doing stupid shit; that's never out of the question. So please consider having a sober trip sitter, at least for your first time if you're going for a high dose. It's not like a blackout from alcohol though, you WILL remember the stuff, but that doesn't mean your decision making will be as "good" as when sober. You might get anxious about pointless things, you may be bothered by certain sounds, perhaps you'll get some body load.
Example from personal experience: I had a friend eat only 2g of average cubensis (much less potent than what you have) and he freaked the fuck out. He saw evil shadows flying around him trying to pull him into a hole in the sand (we were at a lone beach far away from the nearest city). He also felt like his mind was trying to fly to the sky and leave the body there. It took him about an hour to stop panicking that he'd die or go insane; I finally convinced him to join me near the shore to chat and we had a really meaningful conversation.
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Re: Interested in psychedelics. Please Help [Re: marmota89]
#27038103 - 11/14/20 02:09 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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marmota89 said: 1. I want to start with a low dose of liberty caps. About 2g dried. What should be my expectations? Is it like weed? Can i control myself and act sober when I want? 
If it's your first trip then I would not put yourself in a situation where you may need to control yourself or act sober. It will put unneeded pressure on the experience.
2g of dried libs sounds like a fairly high does to me. I would read up on dosages and look at the levels. IMO it's always better to start small with shrooms and slowly work up over a period of time so you can come to terms with the effects.
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2. And another question, how its like at heroic dose? How safe it is ? I mean what are the chances if I take them in my room to woke up in the mud outside? I mean at higher doses can't you really control anything?
Never say never. If you want to experience a high does with little/no prior tripping experience you'll want a trusted friend on hand to help guide you if things get tricky.
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3. And another question, I got a friend who wants to try shrooms too but he's underage. What do you think? Me an my friends excluding him are over 19.Do you think it is safe for his mental health? 
Until your 20s your brain is still developing [citation needed], most people ignore this, I certainly did, but it's usually best to hold off until you are older. Having life experience also gives you some context or references that make it easier to gain benefit from the trip. All opinion though.
I know if I could go back in time I would 100% strongly advice younger me to hold off from drugs till my mid twenties. I didn't really gain much from my early mushrooms experiences. In fact I basically had a string of hairy trips that put me off tripping until I was older and more sensible, then I started to 1) enjoy my trips and 2) actually learn something from then.
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