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Panaeolus cyanescens dosage for ego death experience?
#27036340 - 11/13/20 03:44 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hi guys i would like to get some information regarding pan cyan dosage for ego death trip to heal mental illness such as ptsd and some negative ego. Hope to see some guide regarding this matter. Thank you shroomerian 🙏🙏
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens dosage for ego death experience? [Re: Bart84]
#27036348 - 11/13/20 03:59 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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An "ego death" will probably make your PTSD worse. Try regular dose.
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens dosage for ego death experience? [Re: whitecarnist]
#27036358 - 11/13/20 04:07 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ego death could also help PTSD, it helps for some people. So long as you've been there before on a psychedelic
But pan cyans, I am pretty sure are pretty weak. They are the only ones I have been able to find in the psilocybe family. The ones that usually grow from lawn fertilizer, right?
I am not sure but they're definitely small, like liberty caps, but they generally contain less psilocybin than other strains.
Ego death is very difficult to determine in terms of dosage for anyone. We cannot really give dosage advice here, but they're weaker than cubensis by a lot.
Have you taken cubensis before, how much, and what was the experience like if so?
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens dosage for ego death experience? [Re: skOsH]
#27036365 - 11/13/20 04:12 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nope im from SE asia and i cant get cubensis around here.. Ive been tripping few times and noticed it makes me much2 better in term of impulsive behaviour etc.
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens dosage for ego death experience? [Re: skOsH]
#27036366 - 11/13/20 04:14 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Panaeolus Cyanescens are actually pretty strong. You're probably mistaking them for Panaeolus Cinctulus.
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens dosage for ego death experience? [Re: whitecarnist]
#27036382 - 11/13/20 04:40 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thats what i heard..
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens dosage for ego death experience? [Re: whitecarnist]
#27036387 - 11/13/20 04:48 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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You're correct I was thinking of Panaeolus Cinctulus heh...oops.
Heh...those are weak though.
Pan cyans, yeah, those are strong. I've never had them but I hear great things about them. Some buddies told me they thought they were stronger than cubensis. Same with azures and psilocybe cyans, pretty sure as well
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens dosage for ego death experience? [Re: skOsH]
#27039603 - 11/14/20 09:40 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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So any dosage suggestions guys??
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens dosage for ego death experience? [Re: Bart84] 3
#27040128 - 11/15/20 08:37 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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You should read the stickied thread on dosage at the top of this board. Pan cyans are extremely potent and no one is qualified to suggest anything but caution when discussing dosage. Be aware that Pan cyans are many times more potent on average than a cube will be. I would suggest a dried gram would be a very strong experience for most people and that caution is best employed with psychs, you can always take more next time but, you can’t go back in time 2 hours and take less if the experience proves difficult.
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens dosage for ego death experience? (moved) [Re: Bart84]
#27040363 - 11/15/20 11:06 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from Psychedelic Medicine, Research & Microdosing .
Reason: Subject better suited to our Psychedelic Experience forum.
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens dosage for ego death experience? (moved) [Re: geokills]
#27044612 - 11/17/20 09:21 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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pretty well known with Pan Cyans. i love them! Id start by trying 1.5 - 2 grams. Thats a really good dose and will help you in the long run. If you want an ego death, id go for 5 grams Cyans. I took 3 grams my second time and had hectic CEV's while listening to music. But the 1.5 grams i feel helped me much more in the long run.
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens dosage for ego death experience? (moved) [Re: FuckCancer]
#27044691 - 11/17/20 11:16 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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20.86 grams of fresh pan cyans is a level 5 trip
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens dosage for ego death experience? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27044766 - 11/18/20 01:14 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: You should read the stickied thread on dosage at the top of this board. Pan cyans are extremely potent and no one is qualified to suggest anything but caution when discussing dosage. Be aware that Pan cyans are many times more potent on average than a cube will be. I would suggest a dried gram would be a very strong experience for most people and that caution is best employed with psychs, you can always take more next time but, you can’t go back in time 2 hours and take less if the experience proves difficult.

Always err on the side of caution with pans, OP.
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens dosage for ego death experience? (moved) [Re: FuckCancer]
#27044777 - 11/18/20 01:37 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is gram per body weight doesn’t matter?
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens dosage for ego death experience? (moved) [Re: Bart84]
#27044854 - 11/18/20 04:43 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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No, it acts in our brains, so it's the gram per blood weight behind the blood-brain-barriere that matters, and we humans have pretty similar sized brains independent from bodyweight.
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens dosage for ego death experience? (moved) [Re: Pandemoon]
#27045918 - 11/18/20 04:52 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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So a mushroom is like a pineal gland that you eat yourself
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens dosage for ego death experience? (moved) [Re: Jadedgreen]
#27046244 - 11/18/20 07:28 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I’m sure 2grams dried isn’t a lvl 5 trip. I took 2.9 and hit level 3-4. And these were no crappy ones, I picked them myself so I’m thinking 20 grams wet:fresh could also hold more psilocybin than when dehydrated. Don’t quote me on that though.
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens dosage for ego death experience? (moved) [Re: FuckCancer]
#27048108 - 11/19/20 09:47 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Gosh 20g fresh equals to 10g dried if im not mistaken.. Hmm that was FHD 😂
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens dosage for ego death experience? (moved) [Re: Bart84]
#27048158 - 11/19/20 10:39 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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If water weight is 90% and a fully dry mushroom is 10% original weight. Then 20 g fresh is equal to 2 g dry in weight.
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens dosage for ego death experience? (moved) [Re: Jadedgreen]
#27048215 - 11/20/20 12:00 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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check dosage calculator! do not take multi gram dried cyans dosage unless experienced! guage from last dosage
yes body weight matters!
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens dosage for ego death experience? (moved) [Re: the man]
#27048260 - 11/20/20 01:16 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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2.792 dried grams is a level 5 trip on Panaeolus cyanescens. The high levels of psilocin in these shrooms have left comparable to acid trips. I find the visuals on pan cyans to be very iconic reminiscent of psychedelic artwork. Beware these are heavy trips where very low frequency activities occur
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens dosage for ego death experience? (moved) [Re: Jadedgreen]
#27048796 - 11/20/20 11:14 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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My last experience with 2.5g dried pan cyan has put me into state where i felt my face being squeezed and sucks and its really discomfort but not really scare and later in 1 moment i couldn’t feel my body and im somewhere i didnt know, i was crying but not soo hard, and been asked few questions about my own intentions.. the experience thought me something about not carry on my intentions and the voice ask me to rethink about it.. i dont know what it is.. but yes it change my perspective for some matter in my life. Overall intensity is 6/10 It is supported by calming music with headphone. And to be honest its a bit scary when the music stop to switch the next track 😌
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens dosage for ego death experience? (moved) [Re: Jadedgreen]
#27048804 - 11/20/20 11:17 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks man, i will take a note on it 🙏
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens dosage for ego death experience? (moved) [Re: Jadedgreen]
#27054685 - 11/23/20 10:10 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thought I stated that 20grams fresh equals 2grams dried in my post. My b. But even so, that can’t be a level 5 trip otherwise I would’ve been off with the fairies on my 2.9gram trip. Hmm, Although, I was transported to the safari and all the stars were eyeballs sooo maybe I did reach a level 5
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens dosage for ego death experience? (moved) [Re: FuckCancer]
#27054881 - 11/24/20 03:29 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I did 3.2g but not so hard to control maybe bcoz i did it with a nice background track.. can it be?
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens dosage for ego death experience? (moved) [Re: Bart84]
#27055623 - 11/24/20 02:28 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Possibly. I made sure my set and setting was perfect for the vibe I wanted so I was able to be in a bit more control too. Next high dose in the future I’m going 5g for sure.
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens dosage for ego death experience? (moved) [Re: FuckCancer]
#27058010 - 11/26/20 12:35 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Maybe so It could be more like a level 3 but it does seem to get there if it gets bad then you start to seem like it was a level 5 especially it you fear what you could see that would be more severe paranoia because you can only fear something that is real Level 5 seems very spacey with very intense hallucinations that cause an afterglow for a great duration. There are waves that alter the afterglow with a ripple effect double images seem to constrast and darken the tonal boundaries in images Feels cold and there is a cooling effect
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens dosage for ego death experience? (moved) [Re: Jadedgreen]
#27060336 - 11/27/20 02:46 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm around 65kg. I had a pretty difficult first trip on 2g of pan cyans. Not ego death, or maybe it was difficult from resisting and anxiety about the setting. I wouldn't start with a high dose of them your first time. I seem to get more anxiety and racing thoughts/ADHD stuff with them. I haven't worked back up to that dose yet. 5g of cubes was super chill in comparison to that 2g of pans.
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