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Bootleg ayahuasca recipe help?
    #27026921 - 11/07/20 02:07 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Hello, I have come into some ingredients recently, and have been desperately trying to find a clear answer on how I can use what I have currently to make something ayahuasca-like, rather than wasting more money just to find out I need yet more or yet another ingredient.

Currently I have:

~100g P. viridis
10g B. caapi
50g Syrian rue
250g M. hostilis

I intended to attempt an extraction sometime with the mimosa, so I'd prefer to use it minimally for this if at all. As a bonus, I also have some HBWR seeds, some shrooms (who would have guessed), a few "dream herbs" (C. zacatechii, H. salicifolia, S. capensis, S. kirkii), and 14g of Amanita, which I've variously seen used as additives by others, save for the shrooms.

I have been searching dmt-nexus cursorily, and they seem to balk at the idea of using anything other than hundreds of grams of B. caapi as a starting point, not to mention more than a few of the recipes there are interspersed with paragraphs of frustrating, unrelated text that makes comprehension difficult for me. From my research, I believe I do have enough of the active chemicals between my ingredients right now.

I'd really appreciate some basic brewing directions (i.e. boiling times, a final answer on whether or not to acidify, do I brew everything together or not, etc.), and I'd really like to use up the 10g of B. caapi that I have since I don't think I'll ever use it otherwise...


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Re: Bootleg ayahuasca recipe help? [Re: quillip]
    #27035156 - 11/12/20 12:16 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Well, if anyone needs this one day, I'll record what I did, and report on the effectiveness on the weekend.

I had some tartaric acid on hand, and I made two separate brews.

I added 5g of syrian rue and all 10g of my B. caapi to 3 cups of water with a teaspoon of tartaric acid, and boiled it for 30 minutes (man, did it stink!), poured through a coffee filter and reduced to a half mug of clear brown liquid.

For the P. viridis leaves, I boiled all 100g 3 times for 30 minutes each, transferring the liquid through a strainer to another pot. First boil was 6 cups of water with a tablespoon of tartaric acid, second was 4 cups with 2 teaspoons of acid, third was 4 cups with 1 teaspoon of the acid. I then reduced to a little more than a half mug of murky red liquid.

I guess I'll see if I have to learn from my mistakes later...


Edit pre-trip: Holy damn use less acid than I did. Probably half or maybe even less...


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Edited by quillip (11/14/20 07:09 PM)


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Re: Bootleg ayahuasca recipe help? [Re: quillip]
    #27035661 - 11/12/20 05:21 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Idk about the Chacruna, but 5 grams of Rue if properly brewed will already be pretty strong, i typically only use 3 to 4.5 grams of Rue but 500mgs more of Rue shouldn't be too much stronger than the 4.5 grams, but with the 10 grams of Caapi it may add a little extra strength to it. Overall i think it should be fine but be prepared in case things get intense. Have a purge bucket nearby within arms reach just in case.


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Re: Bootleg ayahuasca recipe help? [Re: Sabnock] * 1
    #27035757 - 11/12/20 06:24 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Or research pharmahuasca and do your extractions on whatever plants you want included, gelcap the extracted goodies to a dosage you can measure.


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Re: Bootleg ayahuasca recipe help? [Re: Sabnock]
    #27036213 - 11/13/20 12:54 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Idk about the Chacruna, but 5 grams of Rue if properly brewed will already be pretty strong, i typically only use 3 to 4.5 grams of Rue but 500mgs more of Rue shouldn't be too much stronger than the 4.5 grams, but with the 10 grams of Caapi it may add a little extra strength to it. Overall i think it should be fine but be prepared in case things get intense. Have a purge bucket nearby within arms reach just in case.




I didn't grind the seeds, idk why I didn't just do it, but if it's too weak, I have more rue. I doubt the 10g of caapi will do much given the massive amounts people are normally using.

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Or research pharmahuasca and do your extractions on whatever plants you want included, gelcap the extracted goodies to a dosage you can measure.




You wanna spot me a set of proper glassware? :tongue: I don't have the money to do such things yet, and my crude mason jar and pyrex shenanigans already wasted me 35g of salvia, and will likely waste my mimosa too with how my first extraction attempt is going so far...


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Re: Bootleg ayahuasca recipe help? [Re: quillip]
    #27038181 - 11/14/20 04:36 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

You don't need glass. You can just eat a few grams of rue or can You extract harmala from the rue easily like this


DMT extraction while not idiot proof, is pretty easy. But you can make MHRB tea, I have never done it but it doesn't look hard.



as long as you take the MAOI part 45 minutes before the dmt part it should work. These are foul tasting concoctions and you should consider extracting and gelcap them.


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Re: Bootleg ayahuasca recipe help? [Re: viraldrome] * 1
    #27038750 - 11/14/20 01:04 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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viraldrome said:
You don't need glass. You can just eat a few grams of rue or can You extract harmala from the rue easily like this





Thankfully that video is almost identical to what I did, up to before the complete evaporation. I boiled a little shorter, but not too much shorter.

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DMT extraction while not idiot proof, is pretty easy.





I think I may be an idiot :wink:


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Re: Bootleg ayahuasca recipe help? [Re: quillip]
    #27040447 - 11/15/20 12:05 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Alright, well I can say that it worked. The purge happened two times, ~45 minutes after consuming each portion; I don't think anything I read could have prepared me for how forcefully I was made to vomit. I didn't help myself with the amount of acid I put into the mix, it was pure pain trying to down the chacruna portion, and even now I've still got remnant throbbing pain in my teeth. The chalky acidity was really all I could taste though, so maybe I was lucky there...


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