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christopera
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Re: The DRAFT is coming soon to America. Men and women will be forced into the military by law. [Re: Fiery] 2
#27035809 - 11/12/20 07:02 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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christopera said: We should have mandatory service but it certainly shouldn’t be limited to armed forces.
SO what would count for that?
What should Mandatory service be? Why should people get off their butts and do something good for society when they don't have to? Everyone already fought and died for them and now they are free, so eff it, right?
(being sarcastic/facetious of course. )
This is sort of the mindset I was addressing when I mentioned the lack of interest in military/police service.
A great disconnect from humanity has occurred since the internet went mainstream... now, a person could live their life without a single human interaction( except birth-7 years old) of course for any sarcasm INC.) Why would anyone serve another human being if it didn't serve them?
The way I envision it, and I really haven't put a lot of effort into it, but something like a 6 month or 12 month mandatory service straight out of high school. Potentially with an option to extend if you wanted to. You could do it locally, maybe something like youth groups, construction, tree planting. Or if you want something more elaborate you could do national park service, forestry, larger construction projects, etc.. You would get paid for completing it, but you'd also gain experience working. Perhaps you could even substitute part of your senior year of high school for it, or take credits from it into freshman year of college. The idea would be to get young adults transitioned into some sort of professional life while not necessarily setting them free and totally on their own. It would also hopefully instill some sort of personal ownership of the system at large.
I get the feeling programs like this would by hugely frowned upon by many citizens, likely because they would see it as too socialist, communist, or some version of those two things. It however is fairly obvious to me that a lot of people have no interest in understanding what it takes for their community to operate. As a result, they take advantage.
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Re: The DRAFT is coming soon to America. Men and women will be forced into the military by law. [Re: split_by_nine]
#27035813 - 11/12/20 07:07 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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i don't think this country will need a draft, i think there will always be plenty of people to fight if required
if we fight with each other, we are dumber than advertised, the world is imbalanced, hold on to your seats
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Re: The DRAFT is coming soon to America. Men and women will be forced into the military by law. [Re: masspan]
#27035819 - 11/12/20 07:11 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't think america will bring back the draft, and I don't think they will have a shortage of soldiers. For one thing there's plenty of under-educated, poor folks out there who will sign up, but there's also plenty of 'patriots' who still believe in the myth of their own greatness, and beyond that military service can be a smart career move, as it often is in Canada. And then on top of that, you will never actually need to use the majority of your equipment or troops.
I know in Canada we've actually often got more applicants than we know what to do with, and we're hardly as hot blooded up here to begin with.
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Fiery
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Re: The DRAFT is coming soon to America. Men and women will be forced into the military by law. [Re: christopera]
#27035830 - 11/12/20 07:18 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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christopera said:
It would also hopefully instill some sort of personal ownership of the system at large.
I get the feeling programs like this would by hugely frowned upon.
Maybe that is it. Too many people have NO NEED to feel anything about the system, they can just throw money at it, and the problems go away. Since most of the population are not rich, the money and the issues need to be addressed of the homeless, the starving, and the sick.
"Reforms are coming" is what politicians will tell you.... "we're going to build this or that" but the truth remains that it's getting better, but also worse, because America is not looking within itself. Deep in the heart of America and ALL NATIONS are champions, but only named so not on the back of all the people the nation killed to get so, in the so called massive land grabs.
In the heart of America( AND ALL NATIONS) there is a will that wants all nations to survive in a world of peace, a world without nuclear fallout. A world without soldiers.
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Re: The DRAFT is coming soon to America. Men and women will be forced into the military by law. [Re: Fiery]
#27035888 - 11/12/20 07:55 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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100% correct. Although America will be destroyed from the inside. My mom lived through the time of WW2 and always said "America will be taken over without dropping a bomb"
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Re: The DRAFT is coming soon to America. Men and women will be forced into the military by law. [Re: RobZombie68] 1
#27036437 - 11/13/20 06:14 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don’t think we’ll be short on soldiers anytime soon. As long as there are poor kids that can’t afford school and healthcare, there’ll be kids willing to be slaves to imperialism.
I don’t think there’ll even be much need for soldiers for warfare in the near future anyways. “Cyber warfare” seems to have become much more prevalent these past couple years, hide ya power grids hide ya wife
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Fiery
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Re: The DRAFT is coming soon to America. Men and women will be forced into the military by law. [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
#27036895 - 11/13/20 11:44 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeetusdeetus said: hide ya power grids hide ya wife
Good refference.
A true classic.. What is that greamlin?? ... I know the Shrooomery made one about that.
It's the face of the dude who was like hide ya wife and kids.
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Gypsy Boy
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Re: The DRAFT is coming soon to America. Men and women will be forced into the military by law. [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
#27036914 - 11/13/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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split_by_nine said: less police/less military doesnt mean we want anarchy/chaos.
it means we are learning to get along with one another instead of fighting over trivial things.
I want anarchy. Anarchy doesn't mean chaos, it is only the rejection of hierarchy, authority and oppressive institutions.
Yep yep yep
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Re: The DRAFT is coming soon to America. Men and women will be forced into the military by law. [Re: Calm_A_Llama_Down] 1
#27036921 - 11/13/20 11:55 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Calm_A_Llama_Down said: Militarism is the biggest wast of resources on the earth. What is a bomb? A device that destroys itself. And for every bomb we make the enemy makes 2, and for every 2 they make we have to make 3. No one benefits from militarism except the rich.
QFT
Most ppl dont want fight and wars. Its ultra small hand full of jerks who are in power whos game is war
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Re: The DRAFT is coming soon to America. Men and women will be forced into the military by law. [Re: Fiery]
#27036936 - 11/13/20 12:01 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeetusdeetus said: hide ya power grids hide ya wife
Good refference.
A true classic.. What is that greamlin?? ... I know the Shrooomery made one about that.
It's the face of the dude who was like hide ya wife and kids.
It’s “badcomputer”, I looked but couldn’t find the one you’re talking about lol
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Re: The DRAFT is coming soon to America. Men and women will be forced into the military by law. [Re: Fiery]
#27036942 - 11/13/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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