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    #27034487 - 11/12/20 03:55 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

There is a point in ones life where a civilian says: I'm sorry, I disagree, I want my voice to be heard by my Government.

It can be something seemingly trivial, but there comes a point where you say: I'm gonna do something.

Hear me out.

Holland has a tradition of lighting consumer fireworks ever since the liberation from Nazi occupation in 1945. It moved to New Years, like the rest of the world, and was initiated by the Indonesians (former colony) and Chinese among our populace.

About 1300 little stores all over the country sell trinkets year round and exist for a large part because of the end of years sales of fireworks. We are talking sums per store of $20,000-$250,000 of trade in the final 3 days of the years.

Example is a store for sewing, seamstress and knitting supplies. The only one in the wide surroundingg because most throw everything away right away. There an old lady and and two assistants supply you with sewing machine needles for all models of machines, wool and stringin all color, cloth, what have you. Not something you or I do but, a store like that exists and is made possible to remain existing because of the tens of thousands of bucks made by end of year fireworks sales. 3 jobs, a cute little store people travel far and wide to, awesome.

Another thing, a big thing to me. The youth of the Netherlands loves and I mean LOVES consumer fireworks. 75% cant wait till the day they can buy it and on december 31 randomly assembled groups of youths maraud the streets lighting fireworks. I was in one as a kid, it it a great rejoice, first you have christmas and then yaaaay!! fireworks!! That was so awesome. Such a joy for the little ones and such a fantastic way to learn how to learn how to be sensible, risk assess and be comfortable around danger. Good fun, education, etc.

I can go on but, to business!

Right now right at the moment that the Dutch fireworks merchants have their bunkers full of millions of kilos of fireworks, now the stores are supplied with the goods they paid for, legal certified quality goods - right now the Dutch Government says: "because of Corona, to ease the burden on the hospitals, no consumer fireworks this year."

The Dutch government has been prohibiting more and more types of fireworks and expanding fireworks prohibited zones for years. It is no secret they have a strangulation policy to end the tradition of consumer fireworks in the 2020s.

Corona is used as an excuse. The vast majority of people on the ER at new years is there because of drunk partying, drunk brawling and drunk driving. Curb alcohol then if you are so eager to ease the burden on the hospitals. Noooo! Unthinkable.

So, now hundreds of little shops bought tons of fireworks to make it economically and the Government says "pay us to have it destroyed too" driving them no doubt into bankruptcy? All those little mom and pop stores all over the country? I DONT THINK SO. YOU'RE GONNA COVER THEIR LOSSES IS WHAT YOU'RE DOING! You're not going to add the bankruptcy of all those mom and pop stores to the economic nightmare of COVID. Bicycle repair stores! Knitting supply stores! Hell no.

Its very clear that they are testing the waters here to see how bad it gets and if its not too bad, next year they are gonna say, "know what, lets keep the total ban of fireworks."

The youths and children are so disappointed, so incredibly disappointed that the door to the most fun celebration of the year, for them, is getting nailed shut and wallpapered over. The youths media are being a bunch of propagandists pommelling the kids with mind control news items like "little peter has asthma and has a hard time breathing because of fireworks smoke" "little johnny has a fireworks injury" no psychological tactic gets spared harness the will to do good in youths to manipulate them into being diveded among themselves about fireworks. If you see those items, its disgusting. Psychological manipulation Goebbels would be proud of to turn the kids against each other to ease the transition for the government. Divide and conquer.

So what I did, I wrote a reasonable and sensible email where I argue all this on compact and clear form, mention how every other nation of the EU has much more dangerous fireworks, that we have a vast illegal trade and that this will get worse, but also another thing, that Dutch youths are very inventive and that DIY explosives used to be a huge problem in our country, still is sizable, but that with the ubiquitous nature of the Internet and the tendency of things going viral, that there likely would come a wave of the most horrid mixings of commonly available supplies in society to give kids the thrills they seek, along with grave injuries and giving the intellectually less bright part of whatever terrorism there may be ideas they really ought not have, using a few examples of super simple things a child could do that poses a grave hazard, mentioning its only the tip of the iceberg of what chemistry and physics have to offer in terms of opportunities to create great dangers to society. I argue that, the only thing kids arent jumping all over it is because of the dirt cheap readily availability of fireworks that do it better and cheaper for no effort of theirs. Take that away, and you open Pandora's box again like in earlier decades.

All in all a very sensible email from a very sensible citizen.

I sent it to my government.

Ha!

I didnt send it to the Dutch Parliament email, I took the extra effort and sent it to every single member of Dutch parliament, from the far left to the far right and all inbetween. Why write "your congressman" when you can personally approach every single member of congress individually, right?

Amnesty International taught me that :sun:

No, you're not going to screw all those mom and pop stores and all the kids of Holland. I'm OK with a year break cause of Covid but I genuinely foresee all hell breaking loose if the kids dont get their fireworks back. I'm not too worried about illegal fireworks but creating a generation of basement bombers who stuff steel pipes with matchheads and very many more tactics that will absolutely go viral about how to convert many types of common goods in society into devices more dangerous than any firework, even display fireworks, because they employ corrosive and flammable chemicals which are sprayed around in all directions or are so unstable or readily ignited that there will be accidents galore of a severity and scale that make the current rate and severity of fireworks injuries look like a luxury problem.

The "Tweede Kamer", our government basically, has 150 seats. Of those, 149 received the mailing, I got a gush of automated "mail received/we;ll get back to you" right on the spot, and the first reply is already in.

Let those guys and their offices have an unified message to chew on. Something is going to stick in the collective unconscious of he assembly of people and some degree of good will come from it.

Americans and other friends, you can do this too of course. If some wrong needs righting, write the best possible letter-to-your-congressman and send it to ALL of them. Some things are beyond partisan politics, and you need not be a lobby group to exert a lobby group effect.

Long story, thank you for reading!


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Re: I wrote an email to my Government [Re: Asante] * 2
    #27034835 - 11/12/20 09:07 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Aim all the fireworks at the government :ruggedwink:


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Re: I wrote an email to my Government [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #27034980 - 11/12/20 10:27 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

So many people will be unhappy by this, get criminal records that need not be, horrible things will go wrong in the years to come.

Its an important matter. The Dutch are very pyro minded, its in our blood, take that away and you not just create a great market for much heavier illegal stuff but many kids will switch to DIY with the power of the Internet. And that would have horrible consequences.

Such dangerous chemistry is so close beneath the surface of society, and all it takes is one to figure it out and post it, it goes viral and suddenly its everywhere including in the hands of some very ill intentioned or ill advised people.


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Re: I wrote an email to my Government [Re: Asante]
    #27035028 - 11/12/20 11:06 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Asante said:
So many people will be unhappy by this, get criminal records that need not be, horrible things will go wrong in the years to come.

Its an important matter. The Dutch are very pyro minded, its in our blood, take that away and you not just create a great market for much heavier illegal stuff but many kids will switch to DIY with the power of the Internet. And that would have horrible consequences.

Such dangerous chemistry is so close beneath the surface of society, and all it takes is one to figure it out and post it, it goes viral and suddenly its everywhere including in the hands of some very ill intentioned or ill advised people.




Dont u wish u had the American constitution lol.I say you make your own fireworks or get them underground and set em off and say fuck it. Let the gov know they cant control you. And fuck timmy with asthma. If you cant breath cuz a fireworks maybe stay inside you little fuck


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Re: I wrote an email to my Government [Re: Asante]
    #27035234 - 11/12/20 12:56 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Asante said:
So many people will be unhappy by this, get criminal records that need not be, horrible things will go wrong in the years to come.

Its an important matter. The Dutch are very pyro minded, its in our blood, take that away and you not just create a great market for much heavier illegal stuff but many kids will switch to DIY with the power of the Internet. And that would have horrible consequences.

Such dangerous chemistry is so close beneath the surface of society, and all it takes is one to figure it out and post it, it goes viral and suddenly its everywhere including in the hands of some very ill intentioned or ill advised people.



Oh I fully support you, and I hope you guys get to keep your fireworks :shroomeryhead:


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Re: I wrote an email to my Government [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #27038167 - 11/14/20 03:48 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Update: the fireworks ban is in effect.

There's a lot of protesting going on online and offline.

To protest, at 20:00h when the evening news starts, all over The Netherlands fireworks enthusiasts set off fireworks, from bangers to huge mortar cakes, to show that we will not be silenced.

As everybody argues, much heavier illegal fireworks and dangerous DIY will take its place.


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Re: I wrote an email to my Government [Re: Asante]
    #27038215 - 11/14/20 05:27 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Asante, I agree. Banning fieworks will lead to big problems. I myself used to play around building my own 'fireworks' during teenage times. I am glad that I never lost an arm or something.

I can remember one day I got one of the 'forbidden' fireworks from Poland. I am sure you know these. One evening we decided to light it up. I barely had 3 seconds to get away. Never felt such a shockwave before (except maybe for sparkler bombs that where popular in the US). I couldn't hear for quite some time. These things are dangerous.


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Re: I wrote an email to my Government [Re: Fridgedoor]
    #27038246 - 11/14/20 06:23 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Thing is, the Polish bangers are now all CE approved by the EU, so no more short fuses and flashpowder leaks.

Did you have a Gorilla Bomb bychance? Those were notorious for the short interval between lighting and exploding, and 10 grams of flash (US cracker 0.05gr, old US m80 3.5gr, police flashbang 5gr) is quite a lot to go off early.

Look at this video of one of the most popular extreme bangers.

As you see, perfectly made, utilizing a Bickford fuse, the safest and most reliable fuse also used in blasting, along with an ignition head protected by a plastic cap.

If you get an accident with this you're being a moron, its not the firework's fault.

Young teens can do it, such as judging by the hand, the one making this video:





Its the video I made the boom graemlin from :boom:

If you imagine the kid had stuffed that powder into a metal pipe, hearing that explosion, its easy to see he could have been gored by a metal shard or endcap.

Thats why you discourage kids to DIY by having safe fireworks cheaply available, because then they won't bother.

If they prohibit alcohol theres brewing and a still in every street right?


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Re: I wrote an email to my Government [Re: Asante]
    #27038249 - 11/14/20 06:29 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Concealed carry in droves. Go out do your fireworks anyway. Tell the police they're not enforcing the ban. Remind them everyone is armed.

When citizens cant organize or have the balls to do stuff. Tyrany steps right in


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Re: I wrote an email to my Government [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27038605 - 11/14/20 11:04 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

A lolzy recap of the sad event for those who speak Dutch:




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Re: I wrote an email to my Government [Re: Asante]
    #27039039 - 11/14/20 03:40 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I've written countless emails and letters to the government, I've had very few replies and the ones I have had have been condescending "we make the rules and you follow them" type shit.

If you want to instigate change you have to get greater vocal public backing.


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