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Offlineicelandic
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7 hour paralysis from indoor grown Cubensis - cause?
    #27034454 - 11/12/20 02:35 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Recently a friend (J) and a friend of hers (S) made a tea with 8g of dried cubensis which they halved for ~4g mushroom tea each.

(S) Was inexperienced with mushrooms having only tried low doses in the past to no noticeable effect so this time they upped the dosage to make sure she got there.

Within 20 minutes of consuming the tea a paralysis began to set in for (S), she pretty much turned into a human slug for about 4 hours, At the height of it she couldn’t move her limbs or lift her head, and she was slurring but laughing her head off. The paralysis took about 6-7 hours to fully wear off.

Thankfully she rode it out in good spirits but still, a highly unexpected result from cubensis and something not everyone would deal with so well.

These cubensis are home grown under clean conditions and very well looked after, many people have taken them without issue including my friend (J) who went halves in the same tea.

Anyone have any idea what might have happened? I havent been able to find any cases online of wood lovers paralysis in cubensis. Apparently (S) has strange paradoxical reactions to other medications at times for what that is worth, so it could be a case of unique brain chemistry but interested in hearing other ideas.


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Re: 7 hour paralysis from indoor grown Cubensis - cause? [Re: icelandic]
    #27034486 - 11/12/20 03:54 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I've heard of paralysis on cubes but only on very high doses like 7 grams or more.

Was the tea evenly distributed? Did you pour it into a container, stir it, then halve it? Or did you pour one cup then the next? I may not know anything about mushroom tea but I do know quite a lot about black tea green tea and oolong tea and I know that when you are pouring Camellia sinensis tea between two or more people you should pour a little bit into each cup one at a time instead of filling one cup and then the next and then the next. this is so that everybody pretty much gets the same strength of tea. The last drops of water are the most potent regarding tea flavor. But what I would do is pour the tea into one vesel and stir it and then split it between my friends.


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Re: 7 hour paralysis from indoor grown Cubensis - cause? [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27034501 - 11/12/20 04:32 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Thats crazy


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Re: 7 hour paralysis from indoor grown Cubensis - cause? [Re: kunzyMAGI24]
    #27034670 - 11/12/20 07:19 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

possible that she got a very high amount even though it wasn't meant to happen.

one time a friend of mine took one sip since he didn't wanna trip that night, and his eyes were huge within 15 minutes.


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Re: 7 hour paralysis from indoor grown Cubensis - cause? [Re: cube talk]
    #27034734 - 11/12/20 08:00 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Hmm, a friend of mine took about 3.5 grams dried of some average potency shrooms I grew and he got some kind of paralysis for about an hour. During this period, he was completely mindfucked, yet he could speak coherently.
Possible reasons:
1) He had slept very little the previous night.
2) He had eaten too much the previous night (we took the shrooms in the morning) and he said his stomach might have been slightly upset.
3) We were listening to ambient psychedelic music while laying on the beach and he said the sounds were taking him somewhere he couldn't control, and at the same time they made him unable to focus on moving his limbs.

He was basically lying on the sand while repeating "Holy shit guys I can't understand how you are making any sense of anything or even thinking logically right now holy crap"

He wasn't new to psychedelics tho so I don't really know what happened. It wasn't a "bad trip" tho cause it all subsided after a while and he didn't really feel scared.


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Re: 7 hour paralysis from indoor grown Cubensis - cause? [Re: jomanda1990] * 2
    #27034804 - 11/12/20 08:44 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

There’s a difference between physiological paralysis and perception of “paralysis” when on psychedelics. Although I’ve never had paralysis, the higher the dose, the harder for me to move usually. So I can see how someone might be tripping so hard that they believe they’re paralyzed.

I think, if anything, it may be something akin to sleep paralysis.


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Re: 7 hour paralysis from indoor grown Cubensis - cause? [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #27034895 - 11/12/20 09:40 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like a low tolerance with a high dose to me. If I gave 4 grams of my strongest cubes to most people it would have them pissing and shitting themselves on the floor.


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Re: 7 hour paralysis from indoor grown Cubensis - cause? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #27035298 - 11/12/20 01:42 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Sounds like a low tolerance with a high dose to me. If I gave 4 grams of my strongest cubes to most people it would have them pissing and shitting themselves on the floor.




Literally or metaphorically?

Cary Grant supposedly took a dump in his living room while tripping on LSD.


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Re: 7 hour paralysis from indoor grown Cubensis - cause? [Re: funky123]
    #27035331 - 11/12/20 02:03 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Literally one time at a party a dumb chick didn’t heed the warnings that came with the complimentary gram of APE given to her. She then went and found the stash and ate something like another 3 or 4 grams. She spent the next 8 hours paralyzed in a lawn chair shitting and puking all over herself.


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Re: 7 hour paralysis from indoor grown Cubensis - cause? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #27035435 - 11/12/20 03:16 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Literally one time at a party a dumb chick didn’t heed the warnings that came with the complimentary gram of APE given to her. She then went and found the stash and ate something like another 3 or 4 grams. She spent the next 8 hours paralyzed in a lawn chair shitting and puking all over herself.




WTF :laugh: ... people often recommend hiking and outdoor activities on psychs. I mean I never came close to accidentally shitting myself. But (no pun intended) my bowl definitely becomes less predictable and the purging less "efficient". So, that's that.


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Re: 7 hour paralysis from indoor grown Cubensis - cause? [Re: funky123]
    #27035451 - 11/12/20 03:25 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

People don’t realize the difference between eating 5 grams of an average potency cube and 3 grams of a strong one. The variable is huge.


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Re: 7 hour paralysis from indoor grown Cubensis - cause? [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #27035562 - 11/12/20 04:28 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, i have to agree that it seems like they had a high dose and the experience caused perceived paralysis.


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Re: 7 hour paralysis from indoor grown Cubensis - cause? [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #27035610 - 11/12/20 04:54 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for the replies, my thought was it was probably quite a strong dose and a perceived paralysis, Ive had similar experiences on pot. It sounds like there might have been a physical component to it too.

I asked (J) if (S) was tripping really hard from the experience and she said this:

"No visuals, just lots of laughter, she described it as being really stoned. I forgot to mention that her hands & feet all clawed in kinda palsy-like"


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Re: 7 hour paralysis from indoor grown Cubensis - cause? [Re: icelandic]
    #27035837 - 11/12/20 07:24 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Vice did a piece on this subject

https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3zp35/magic-mushroom-paralysis-heres-what-we-know

Seems to be a wood lovers thing, so suprising it would occur on cubes

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...Wood-lovers paralysis (WLP) is so-called because it appears to be caused exclusively by mushrooms that grow on wood. The effect has been most commonly linked with three species of the fungus: Psilocybe azurescens, Psilocybe cyanescens, and Psilocybe subaeruginosa....





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Re: 7 hour paralysis from indoor grown Cubensis - cause? [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
    #27035865 - 11/12/20 07:41 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

the only time I ever shit myself on drugs was when I was 14 years old and it was New year's Eve and I got fucking wasted and I basically spent the night in my bed and I went fucking diarrhea in my bed because I thought it was only going to be a fart but it ended up being this fucking big massive diarrhea. It fucking pissed me off but it was warm for a moment.


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Re: 7 hour paralysis from indoor grown Cubensis - cause? [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27036331 - 11/13/20 03:34 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I think it's mostly a combination of the body high the mushrooms create, and mixed in with the mental headspace. I don't know if I was ever paralyzed on shrooms, there were just a few times some buddies of mine and I just wanted to chill on the couch tripping

Ironically the only time I have tripped on potent wood lovers, I ran like hell from some scary people and the po po after accidentally running towards them. 2.5g cyans = 11g+ cubes basically imo


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Re: 7 hour paralysis from indoor grown Cubensis - cause? [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27036345 - 11/13/20 03:52 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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OutsideOfMyMind said:
I've heard of paralysis on cubes but only on very high doses like 7 grams or more.




My last trip I didn't feel anything close to paralysis (6g dry), but I won't joke, I'm in no rush to climb higher lol.

Crazy experience, OP. Thank you for taking the time to share this in detail!


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Re: 7 hour paralysis from indoor grown Cubensis - cause? [Re: icelandic]
    #27039666 - 11/14/20 11:04 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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icelandic said:
Anyone have any idea what might have happened?



It sounds like this


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Re: 7 hour paralysis from indoor grown Cubensis - cause? [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27044449 - 11/17/20 07:22 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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the only time I ever shit myself on drugs was when I was 14 years old and it was New year's Eve and I got fucking wasted and I basically spent the night in my bed and I went fucking diarrhea in my bed because I thought it was only going to be a fart but it ended up being this fucking big massive diarrhea. It fucking pissed me off but it was warm for a moment.



This is why I read these threads ^

Also, I agree on the perceived paralysis theory of OP's friend's condition. We've all been there or had someone who has. The desire to just lay there and laugh/visualize is part of the experience sometimes.


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Re: 7 hour paralysis from indoor grown Cubensis - cause? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #27045698 - 11/18/20 02:58 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Pastywhyte said:
People don’t realize the difference between eating 5 grams of an average potency cube and 3 grams of a strong one. The variable is huge.




.  True indeed; decades ago I overdosed, but the effect was the opposite of paralysis - the energy flow was so strong it was impossible to stay still. It felt like being in the flame of a Saturn rocket taking off. There was no comfortable position. There was no relaxing into the flow of a lazy river, as in the Beatles' song.


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