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Small fruits - wet sub? * 1
    #27033164 - 11/11/20 10:30 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Looks like these fruits are maturing and starting to drop spores. They are still quite small, only an inch or two tall. There is some debate about whether this is genetic or something else but if it is a variable within my control I'd like to get it dialed in.

I suspect that my sub may be a bit too wet because it does not seem too dry and I have read wet sub can cause small fruits. I used the standard CVG ratio and made sure my coir bricks were the correct weight. I went with the higher range of 4.5 quarts of water because I had read that shoeboxes tend to dry out. I realized I still had some lying around so I gave it a good squeeze and it seemed wetter than I remember. I am squeezing quite hard in the gif mind you, I'd guess quite a bit harder than RR does in his casing video. There is a small fan on low nearby pointed away from the tubs.





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Re: Small fruits - wet sub? [Re: mboehm] * 1
    #27033310 - 11/11/20 12:05 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

You’re fine.

Those aren’t even that small for shoeboxes.

Shoeboxes will usually produce small fruits on the first flush and then they’ll get bigger.

Other than I’d say it’s genetics.

Highly doubt it’s a sub/moisture issue.


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Re: Small fruits - wet sub? [Re: dirtybirdx] * 1
    #27034317 - 11/11/20 10:53 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Right, I would think if it really was too wet it would have been slow to colonize or something. The canopy has filled out quite a bit since this morning but there are still quite a few smaller immature ones so I guess I'll wait to harvest in the morning and deal with the spore drop.

Hope the second flush looks a bit larger.

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Re: Small fruits - wet sub? [Re: mboehm] * 1
    #27034731 - 11/12/20 07:58 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Final results:



Not too bad for a first effort I suppose.

When I pulled the cake out from the tub it still had some decent heft and was quite flexible compared to say a pf cake. By end of first flush should the cake be drier? I'd expect some flexibility but this seems excessive. I'm thinking I can probably afford to up fae some without drying out. More fae is always better if you have the moisture for it right? Already only using 1 layer of micropore on the holes so I will experiment with no tape once pinning begins on my next tubs.

Also will try a touch less water in the next batch of sub.


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    #27036889 - 11/13/20 11:41 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yea, fantastic first go 👍

Tweak it from here, but you don’t need to change much, you’ve got the 80% down.

The subs for me are always different densities and textures depending on everything like which grain I used to how it retained moisture and even how it fruited/what the pin set was like - either way, you just dunk it and put it back on the shelf 👍 and you’re correct about the fae


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