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Can grain be used as a bulk substrate?
    #1247246 - 01/25/03 06:37 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I have 4 large Rubbermaid containers that I intend to grow B+ in. I have never grown out shrooms before. I plan on using brown rice cakes along with a bulk substrate to produce heavier flushes. Can I use corn and/or wild bird seed along with vermaculite for a bulk substrate? I assume so because corn and WBS can be used in cakes. I need 4-5 inches of substrate in the containers.


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Re: Can grain be used as a bulk substrate? [Re: rockclimber]
    #1247490 - 01/25/03 08:53 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

yeah..sounds like it would work


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Re: Can grain be used as a bulk substrate? [Re: rockclimber]
    #1247515 - 01/25/03 09:10 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

It could work but if I were you I'd go with pastuerized straw or dung or a mixture of the two. They are cheap easy and fairly contam resistant. The corn and WBS should be used for substrate not spawn, and while it could work you'd get much better results with a more traditional spawn.


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Re: Can grain be used as a bulk substrate? [Re: rockclimber]
    #1247546 - 01/25/03 09:33 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I have had good results with bird seed not sure about corn.


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Re: Can grain be used as a bulk substrate? [Re: Ripple]
    #1247553 - 01/25/03 09:36 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

IMO rye berries are better than bird seed. For one they have more protein per gram with the smae fat content. Also myc seems to love the stuff.


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Re: Can grain be used as a bulk substrate? [Re: lvleph]
    #1247561 - 01/25/03 09:39 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

So what you all agree on is that it will work, but just not as well as conventional bulk substrates such as dung/straw etc?


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Re: Can grain be used as a bulk substrate? [Re: rockclimber]
    #1247577 - 01/25/03 09:45 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

What I am confused about is why are you putting verm in the bulk substrate. You do not put verm in whole grains. Unless your plan is to grind it up and make cakes yo do not need the verm.


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Re: Can grain be used as a bulk substrate? [Re: lvleph]
    #1247614 - 01/25/03 10:00 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Case with straight verm, or a 50/50 verm/perlite.


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Re: Can grain be used as a bulk substrate? [Re: BladeLSD]
    #1247620 - 01/25/03 10:01 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Ok case with that. Yeah that will be fine. I must have misunderstood your post.


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Re: Can grain be used as a bulk substrate? [Re: lvleph]
    #1247663 - 01/25/03 10:29 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Past experiments have done fine with finch seed if you simmer it down for 30 mins and then sift it to get all that nasty bird kote off it. Also, rye berries can be bought at any local health foods store and have worked just as well as the finch seed. The benefit of the berries is that they are easier to work with and have tended to colonize quicker in bulk techniques.


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Re: Can grain be used as a bulk substrate? [Re: sinoptiK]
    #1247691 - 01/25/03 10:53 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

The reason a bulk substrate is called a bulk substrate is because you can buy it in bulk in cheap prices. Bird seed is not a bulk substrate but a substrate.


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Re: Can grain be used as a bulk substrate? [Re: SixCee]
    #1247771 - 01/25/03 11:50 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

OK, thanks for clearing that up. So no vermaculite in the substrate then. I will be casing with a 50/50+. Good, so I have already learned much from this. Lastly, if the Bird Seed and/or Corn are used as substrates, how should I go about adding the colonized cake to the substrate to get it all to colonize? After it begins to colonize the entire Rubermaid floor, I add the 50/50+ casing to evenize pinning right?


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Re: Can grain be used as a bulk substrate? [Re: rockclimber]
    #27032157 - 11/10/20 08:59 PM (5 months, 6 days ago)

Nice!


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Re: Can grain be used as a bulk substrate? [Re: Brodster596]
    #27032867 - 11/11/20 08:43 AM (5 months, 6 days ago)

That's some of the craziest shit I've read in a long time, leave it in the grave dude.


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