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ZeHgS
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Best way to slow down green mold just for a few days
#27031612 - 11/10/20 01:04 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey guys!
I read over 20 posts related to this subject already but none of them were exactly my situation. I have this one and only tray that already has over 10 small pinheads in one corner. Unfortunately, the opposite corner of the tray is badly infected with green mold, which is already visibly green.
All I want is to slow the mold down enough to prevent it form affecting the growing pinheads. I just need to have one decent harvest for one very intense trip. What is the best approach for this? I've seen conflicting opinions regarding bleach. Should I just use a salt paste? If so, how much? And how thick? Or should I just leave it alone and hope for the best at this point? The mold seems to spread pretty fast from one day to another.
My largest pinhead is perhaps an inch tall so how many days do you think until harvest?
Thank you very much!
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Re: Best way to slow down green mold just for a few days [Re: ZeHgS]
#27031659 - 11/10/20 01:33 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ok so this is a big taboo, incest level, on this forum. So probably everyone will recommend you toss, and honestly I would too. I can tell you I used to do shit like this in my early desperate days, now that I have my method down I dont have to bother because there is an abundance of spawn etc. People will usually tell you that contam in bulk is due to dirty spawn, so that means it could be spread out all over. Of course if only one grain jar was contamed that doesnt have to be so, if you didnt spread it around too much. Also, wrong preparation of for example hpoo or not stirring with coir bucket tek can also be a problem, at least I got the sense before that a grow failed cause I didnt stir my coir and the heat didnt get to the inside which was still dry.
You could try cutting out a large part, much more than where there is visible green and leaving the rest in. I think thats your best shot. Applying peroxide or rubbing alcohol etc will only create a disgusting mush which will disintegrate and rot further.
That still is no guarantee but I would be curious to hear about your results if you do try.
Also interesting to note is that pins are hyperpotent. I dont have a number but a gram of pins is eaqual to more than a gram of adult mushrooms, and therefore possibly worth to just pick and save them now. Just an idea.
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Re: Best way to slow down green mold just for a few days [Re: ZeHgS]
#27031665 - 11/10/20 01:38 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, I agree. That's about the best you can do, but, out of the few times I've tried it, it only worked once.
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Re: Best way to slow down green mold just for a few days [Re: Marxcelium]
#27031684 - 11/10/20 01:48 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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polaritymind said: Ok so this is a big taboo, incest level, on this forum. So probably everyone will recommend you toss, and honestly I would too. I can tell you I used to do shit like this in my early desperate days, now that I have my method down I dont have to bother because there is an abundance of spawn etc. People will usually tell you that contam in bulk is due to dirty spawn, so that means it could be spread out all over. Of course if only one grain jar was contamed that doesnt have to be so, if you didnt spread it around too much. Also, wrong preparation of for example hpoo or not stirring with coir bucket tek can also be a problem, at least I got the sense before that a grow failed cause I didnt stir my coir and the heat didnt get to the inside which was still dry.
You could try cutting out a large part, much more than where there is visible green and leaving the rest in. I think thats your best shot. Applying peroxide or rubbing alcohol etc will only create a disgusting mush which will disintegrate and rot further.
That still is no guarantee but I would be curious to hear about your results if you do try.
Also interesting to note is that pins are hyperpotent. I dont have a number but a gram of pins is eaqual to more than a gram of adult mushrooms, and therefore possibly worth to just pick and save them now. Just an idea.
Thanks a lot for your reply!
Tossing is completely out of the question. I have spent what to me is a large amount of money on this grow kit after years without using mushrooms and won't get the opportunity to do so again any time soon. Given that this is my one and only grow so there is nothing else to contaminate and I am not afraid at all of green mold, particularly given that I have several times eaten wild shrooms literally right out of cow dung without even washing it, it does not make sense to just toss it out.
My only concern is to maximize my yield and my high. Interesting to know about pinhead potency but right now they look way too small to be enough. Ideally, I would like a yield of around 50-70 grams which I would take in one very, very intense trip.
Thank you for your suggestion, it makes perfect sense. Should I do anything else in addition to cutting the infected part off?
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Marxcelium said: Yeah, I agree. That's about the best you can do, but, out of the few times I've tried it, it only worked once.
What do you mean? What happened the times it didn't work? The infection kept growing even after cutting? Is it still better than not cutting at all?
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Re: Best way to slow down green mold just for a few days [Re: ZeHgS]
#27031810 - 11/10/20 03:05 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, it kept growing and the flushes aborted
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Re: Best way to slow down green mold just for a few days [Re: Marxcelium]
#27031902 - 11/10/20 04:07 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Marxcelium said: Yeah, it kept growing and the flushes aborted
Hmmmm ok. Thanks.
One last question. If the green mold does reach a pinhead, will the pinhead just stop growing or actively start rotting?
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Re: Best way to slow down green mold just for a few days [Re: ZeHgS]
#27032027 - 11/10/20 05:35 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Since it has already gone to green, it means the trich is already pumping out spores. So you might consider just covering the green area generously with salt. The more you touch it trying to cut it out, the more you will be spreading the spores to any possible "healthy" myc that you do have.
If it were me in your exact scenario, I would just pour salt and not even cut or try to make the salt into a paste. Then just watch and hope.
Good luck.
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Re: Best way to slow down green mold just for a few days [Re: ReverendMyc]
#27035438 - 11/12/20 03:17 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well if money is a problem you can always grow your own instead of buying a growkit, thats cheaper. Using the broke boi tek for example, look it up on youtube, and a bought spore syringe for 20 bucks you only need some jars, rice and later a plastic tub and coco coir (cheap coco brick).
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Re: Best way to slow down green mold just for a few days [Re: polaritymind]
#27035469 - 11/12/20 03:39 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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In general, a majority of youtube advice sucks ass.
What I do with small patches of contamination if I want a flush to finish out is pour salt over the contamination and then place the bottom half of a petri dish over top to contain the salt, and push it into the sub. You probably need to go a little wider than the contamination, and pooling water/high humidity can cause the salt to get really slurry-like and spread out, hence the petri dish or something similar to prevent this.
I do this if fruits/pins are mature enough that I know they can finish before the contamination goes too far.
If the contamination is in multiple spots and/or taking up a large surface area I'd just ditch it and start over.
I don't know if there is confirmation about pins being more potent than mature fruits but some people do seem to think so.
My #1 advice would be to buy all your materials separately and never buy a grow kit ever again. They kinda suck compared to what you can accomplish with agar, a few jars, and some grain, or just simply the pf tek
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