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Psilocybe cyanescens in Germany (Ph.D. thesis) 1
#27031098 - 11/10/20 05:51 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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"Psilocybe cyanescens in Germany. Ecology and Taxonomy of an Invasive Neomycete."
Dissertation about the real origin and the ecology of P. cyanescens, P. azurescens, P. allenii.
Psilocybe cyanescens, Psilocybe azurescens and Psilocybe allenii probably originated from Psilocybe subaeruginosa populations in Australia and represent variations of the same species.
This paper is a must have. Download it (english) from the University website:
http://ediss.uni-goettingen.de/handle/11858/00-1735-0000-002E-E322-0
Some recent photos of specimens from the European Psilocybe cyanescens complex. All specimens are bluing, but don't ask me about their exact identity. To me it looks like some hybridization is going on here in Europe.
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens in Germany (Ph.D. thesis) [Re: Sporulator]
#27031103 - 11/10/20 05:55 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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So what's their real identity??
Hehe jk sweet pics 😁👍🏼
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens in Germany (Ph.D. thesis) [Re: Sporulator]
#27031111 - 11/10/20 06:11 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looks very interesting, thanks for sharing this Sporulator!
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens in Germany (Ph.D. thesis) [Re: Sporulator]
#27031193 - 11/10/20 07:59 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Interesting. Were the pictured ones wild specimens?
I'm thinking something in the P. serbica complex, maybe P. serbica var. arcana?
These should nonetheless be sequenced.
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens in Germany (Ph.D. thesis) [Re: Anglerfish]
#27031217 - 11/10/20 08:27 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Anglerfish said: Interesting. Were the pictured ones wild specimens?
I'm thinking something in the P. serbica complex, maybe P. serbica var. arcana?
These should nonetheless be sequenced.
Yes those are wild specimens but I think they escaped from my cultures years ago.
I've started to grow Psilocybe actives outdoors 13 years ago and what I see now growing here looks like hybrids of Cyanescens, Azurescens, Allenii and Serbica.  Whatever, it's interesting anyway.
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens in Germany (Ph.D. thesis) [Re: Sporulator]
#27031235 - 11/10/20 08:39 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes, I remember your projects. You also cultivated P. ovoideocystidiata, right? Are they spreading as well?
Looking at those reddish brown ones made me think of the varying morphology in cultivated mushrooms, and if you already didn't see it, check the following P. semilanceata grow from Baba Yaga in the Grow log forum:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26974755/fpart/1/vc/1
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens in Germany (Ph.D. thesis) [Re: Anglerfish]
#27031286 - 11/10/20 09:28 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Anglerfish said: Yes, I remember your projects. You also cultivated P. ovoideocystidiata, right? Are they spreading as well?
Looking at those reddish brown ones made me think of the varying morphology in cultivated mushrooms, and if you already didn't see it, check the following P. semilanceata grow from Baba Yaga in the Grow log forum:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26974755/fpart/1/vc/1
Thanks for the link! Very interesting thread. I woudn't bet my life on it that those are Libs. Any DNA-sequencing in progress?
Yes, the Ovoids are spreading and they are by far the most aggressive species I have ever cultivated. Very different behaviour compared to P. cyanescens, azurescens etc. They fruit from spring to late fall, provided enough rain over the summer months. Very resistant against changing temperatures.
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens in Germany (Ph.D. thesis) [Re: Sporulator]
#27031564 - 11/10/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Beautiful fruits and pics Thanks for sharing
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens in Germany (Ph.D. thesis) [Re: Sporulator] 1
#27031922 - 11/10/20 04:17 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sporulator said: "Psilocybe cyanescens in Germany. Ecology and Taxonomy of an Invasive Neomycete."
Dissertation about the real origin and the ecology of P. cyanescens, P. azurescens, P. allenii.
Psilocybe cyanescens, Psilocybe azurescens and Psilocybe allenii probably originated from Psilocybe subaeruginosa populations in Australia and represent variations of the same species.
This paper is a must have. Download it (english) from the University website:
http://ediss.uni-goettingen.de/handle/11858/00-1735-0000-002E-E322-0
Some recent photos of specimens from the European Psilocybe cyanescens complex. All specimens are bluing, but don't ask me about their exact identity. To me it looks like some hybridization is going on here in Europe.

what about psilocybe hopii how does that fit into the subaeroginosa theory? i thought ps. hopii was from cyanescans group
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens in Germany (Ph.D. thesis) [Re: MadMuncher]
#27031938 - 11/10/20 04:27 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens in Germany (Ph.D. thesis) [Re: MadMuncher]
#27039881 - 11/15/20 03:03 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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They look very strange indeed. Kinda like some of my mutant Azzies. Maybe it's not hybridization, maybe it's just the specific environment?
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens in Germany (Ph.D. thesis) [Re: Adas]
#27040286 - 11/15/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Really cool stuff. I think I remember you talking about your hypothesis that cyans, allenii, and azures originated from subaeruginosa. Thanks for the link to your thesis.
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