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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: starbones]
    #27027462 - 11/07/20 07:31 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

when i let them go that far, sure they gain wet weight but not much dry weight. fruits picked at the proper time vs fruits picked a day later weigh close to the same after they're done drying. this is from comparing many tubs of the same clone.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: FriedEgg]
    #27027580 - 11/07/20 08:43 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

question:

I am doing an agar project that is sort of the worst case scenario for condensation. Pouring very soft agar in deep dish petris.

I've been trying to have the plates cool down in a warmed SAB, I've tried lifting the lids a few times to spill out wet air. I stack them as high as I can. Hot cups of water on the top.

But these plates are very very wet. Is it impossible to get them less wet? 

1.6% LME .8% AGAR or (8g LME 4g agar to 500ml)
poured 1 cm deep in 25mm deep dishes.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #27027604 - 11/07/20 09:03 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

So I'm wondering and hope someone can answer what do you do with all the aborts? I do gummies and Choco's I usally end up with a mess load of them at the end of my runs and just usally take my knife and cut them out.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #27027609 - 11/07/20 09:05 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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tedoro said:
question:

I am doing an agar project that is sort of the worst case scenario for condensation. Pouring very soft agar in deep dish petris.

I've been trying to have the plates cool down in a warmed SAB, I've tried lifting the lids a few times to spill out wet air. I stack them as high as I can. Hot cups of water on the top.

But these plates are very very wet. Is it impossible to get them less wet? 

1.6% LME .8% AGAR or (8g LME 4g agar to 500ml)
poured 1 cm deep in 25mm deep dishes.



Wow that's very little agar.... I use 3g for 200ml water at 2.4g lme. That's why your plates are wet and I wouldn't use any less then 3g because it will and I do mean will get wet af. 3g is pushing it but my plates turn out great.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: trippytimes]
    #27027622 - 11/07/20 09:15 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry I don't have an answer for that but I remembered you said you're doing like 80 tubs-- do you remove all the aborts? How long does that shit take?

I'm finishing up 7 tubs now that had a bunch of aborts and they're so fucking tedious to remove!!! Takes like almost 30 minutes a tub. Do you just not get a lot of aborts? I have no idea what I'll do once I start running more tubs  :stars:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: trippytimes]
    #27027623 - 11/07/20 09:15 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

trippytimes said:
Quote:

tedoro said:
question:

I am doing an agar project that is sort of the worst case scenario for condensation. Pouring very soft agar in deep dish petris.

I've been trying to have the plates cool down in a warmed SAB, I've tried lifting the lids a few times to spill out wet air. I stack them as high as I can. Hot cups of water on the top.

But these plates are very very wet. Is it impossible to get them less wet? 

1.6% LME .8% AGAR or (8g LME 4g agar to 500ml)
poured 1 cm deep in 25mm deep dishes.



Wow that's very little agar.... I use 3g for 200ml water at 2.4g lme. That's why your plates are wet and I wouldn't use any less then 3g because it will and I do mean will get wet af. 3g is pushing it but my plates turn out great.




Yah, I know they are wet because thats not a lot of agar, but I'm doing a project that requires that. So I'm asking for help on reducing the condensation, or living with it.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lenz] * 1
    #27027649 - 11/07/20 09:37 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Sorry I don't have an answer for that but I remembered you said you're doing like 80 tubs-- do you remove all the aborts? How long does that shit take?

I'm finishing up 7 tubs now that had a bunch of aborts and they're so fucking tedious to remove!!! Takes like almost 30 minutes a tub. Do you just not get a lot of aborts? I have no idea what I'll do once I start running more tubs  :stars:



Scalpel is your friend just a little cut and pop! Takes me about 15 mins a tub aborts and all. Electric knife for all the big ones. Scalpel for all the aborts. Cut and go I actually like saving them and get about a half oz dry after 2 or 3 flushes but I'm tired of making gummies from them as it takes alot of work might start canning them like beer cans as drinks for my friends 7g aborts make some blue water. Can it.... And I'm working my way up to 80tubs I have 13 going right now as a test run. No issues so far gonna do 20 tubs a week for a month. Then go back to my normal 5 tubs in rotation for 20 tubs a month it is way easy doing that as my 25x runs 4 bags of 5qt and I can run it in my sleep.

To answer your question yes I get alot of them not every tub but out of 5 tubs 1 will have crazy amount. I hear that usally means something went wrong to cause that that they are all supposed to grow. I have had the aborts start growing as I picked the fully grown ones also. I might just stick to gummies and maybe do some canned blue water.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27027651 - 11/07/20 09:41 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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They make propagation setups with built in stir/agitation for media bottles but they're stupid expensive hundreds of bucks for that set-up.






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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Irishmule169]
    #27028183 - 11/08/20 09:05 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Finding it difficult to maintain surface conditions in bags at the moment. The albinos are knotting and pinning on the sides where there is a much more ideal microclimate.

I don't want to case them so not sure what the best course of action is here. Maybe really hard stuff the polyfil in the neck but it may be too late for this round of them. Didn't think the filter patches would lose so much moisture through them but I guess it's enough to need misting on a shoebox schedule, heck.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: starbones]
    #27028203 - 11/08/20 09:14 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Look up boogs bags. Cut open bags, jam in monos, case and fruit.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #27028276 - 11/08/20 09:56 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Urgh, didn't want to go get jiffy to make casing or use an open air solution like a monotub again. That's all I need is one gnat to have survived.

Goal is to to invitro bags, everything right now is a test run and I've seen some of their bags are just insane. I think I've got my FAE up way too high if the top is not staying moist in a days time.

The bags being done invitro by others are 5 micron filter patches I'm using 0.5 because it's what I had laying around and I didn't think that would be enough. Heck. Will choke down the polyfil and see if that helps.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #27028852 - 11/08/20 03:53 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

On baking the coir... I had some left over bulk substrate (coir, verm and a little gypsum) in a bucket. Have baked at 170C to use as a light casing... but then hesitated and have left it covered. The tubs now have pins and I have changed gaffa tape out for micropore. I guess fruiting conditions but I haven't taken lids off yet.

2 things:
1) Lots of moisture on the lids, so taking them off i guess they will drip everywhere. Is that a risk?

2) Back to the bake. Should I get it back in the oven? Or will it still be okay to use after sitting covered for a couple of days...

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: renai]
    #27028878 - 11/08/20 04:10 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Has anyone tried throwing two plates of different varieties into the same grain jar? Would this make a possible cross ?

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Whyterye] * 1
    #27028905 - 11/08/20 04:34 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

It’s not quite that simple and yes many have tried.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Celestialexplorer1]
    #27028913 - 11/08/20 04:37 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

A few have been made that way or close to it.

I know whyte gold was made on accident when eat mixed up jars and spawned two different types.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27028926 - 11/08/20 04:46 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

How to calculate BE properly? I just figure how many qts of spawn I put in and what's my final dry weight of my mush. Figure every qt is 28g dry weight?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: trippytimes]
    #27028929 - 11/08/20 04:48 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Weight of wet harvest/weight of dry materials x 100

So if you harvest 1000g wet using 500g dry materials (grain and sub) your BE is 200%


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #27028932 - 11/08/20 04:50 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

One dry oz per quart of spawn is a shroomery metric of acceptable performance but not actual BE at all


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #27028945 - 11/08/20 05:03 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Hmmm didn't know the wet part so if I used 650g coir 3qt verm have to weigh that... And 5qt spawn have to weigh that.  Then I can find my b.e. well good knowing iv been going by dry weight per qt.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #27028967 - 11/08/20 05:21 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Weight of wet harvest/weight of dry materials x 100

So if you harvest 1000g wet using 500g dry materials (grain and sub) your BE is 200%



So I know the weight of my coir. So do I need the weight of my oats? And
is that dry oats or after hydration? That's all I've got going into the mix.

Ya it sez dry material, but how can I tell how much dry oats went into a jar of spawn?

And, I'll take the hit, what does BE mean?

Oh, and does harvest include as many flushes as one can squeeze out of a tub?

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