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Faht’s 16qt SWPE (PE) tubs (and non-swpe tubs) * 13
    #27028841 - 11/08/20 03:41 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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So this isn’t anything new, I’m just logging my tub construction and procedure for my PE tubs.. there’s a few things that I specifically haven’t seen elsewhere like the 1/16” holes and the tubs work well, so here we go!

I’m using the 16qt sterlite tubs.. got em at target for like $3. They have white lids that just click on so there’s an imperfect seal there.

The height of the tubs is perfect for PE since they tend to grow short and fat and there isn’t extra tub height to maintain conditions in.

BULK RECIPE is the normal 650gm coir to 2 qts verm to 1 gallon water bucket tek.
Currently using coco bliss and I’m liking it.

I use 2 myco qts to 4 qts of CV per tub and make 3 tubs per bucket tek.. so, I use 6 qts per bucket recipe.
UPDATE 2022: I’ve since switched to doing 1:3+ instead of 1:2 and it works even better.. I’d say I’m averaging ~100g dry from each tub on the first flush… current CV recipe for a single tub is:
336g dry coir
4.1c of verm
8.3c of water


This bk mak culture put out 119g on the first flush

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Average rh in my area is 60% during my grow period

1.  Start by drilling 1/16” holes all around the tub at the subs surface level (being such small holes, the bit glides right through and it’s really fast to drill a whole tub).. staggered every 2.5” or so.. I usually just eyeball it when I’m putting the sharpie points on the tub like so



I came up with this hole configuration because I was getting back into growing PE and did some tester glad containers last year (I was also testing out Tedsdead casing strategy):


I started out by poking needle holes about every 3 inches all over the bag.. when they started to fruit, they seemed to be stalling a bit so I doubled up on the needle holes at the surface level and then they really took off


So I wanted to replicate that in tub form and this was the design I came up with.  My fruits tend to be really chunky and thick and I think this is because of the extra FAE those holes provide

Obviously clean/wash everything.. tubs etc.  I’m not going to tell ya to do those things here.. you should be doing that without instruction lol

2.  30 gallon black garbage bags, when folded in half and cut are perfect for making two liners (i actually iso the liners because I don’t trust manufacturers to sterilize them.. I mean, why would they?  They’re garbage bags. :lol:  and it takes exactly 8 seconds). I spray water on the inside of the tub and lay the liner down.. the water keeps the bag stuck to the sides of the tub



3. Take 1 of 2 qts and break it up and put it into a 2 gallon freezer ziplock (these I do trust to be clean—it’s for food).. I like using a bag for mixing because it mixes the CV and grains extremely well.. the other reason is that it’s really nice to be able to break up the grains further by kneading the outside of the bag and You don’t have to touch it with hands at all.



4. Add 2 qts of CV to the bag



5.  Leaving some air in the bag, I zip it and while holding the zip side tightly, I shake the shit out of it for like a solid 30 seconds to mix.

6.  Pour that out into the tub and level off.

7.  Repeat steps 3 - 6 with the second qt of spawn

8.  I cut off the excess bag on the short ends and the tamp down the edges of the sub.

9.  I use 3” micropore tape to tape up all the 1/16” holes on the tub except for like 3 on each short side (this will come off later in the grow)



10.  Put the lid on and repeat for all the tubs and the tubs are made!



These usually colonize in 3-5 days.. the spelt tubs I made recently colonized in 3



I follow Tedsdead PE casing strategy but I use jiffy mix that I pasteurize on the stove top.. instructions can be found Here
Update: jiffy started adding coir to their recipe so I opted to make my own peat/verm/lime/gypsum mix that I detailed Here




Once the sub is completely colonized, I case it with jiffy @ a 1/2” (keeping it moist by lightly spraying it ~ once a day.. sometimes it’s once every other day).. once that’s colonized, i remove the micropore tape covering the 1/16” holes on the outside of the tub.. then I recase @ another 1/2” or so.. once that’s colonized, I patch until the myc tightens up and knot start to form.. once pins show up, I stop misting

A couple days before the fruits are ready and the sub starts turning blue, I bottom water by putting a 1/4 cup of water down between the liner on both long sides

These are the first tubs I did this way and only used 1.5qts of spawn

 

I bumped it up to 2qts and they put out these flushes (individual tubs **except the 2 pics with the “—>” between them)

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I usually just go one flush but sometimes I go for a 2nd and it works out alright





But usually it doesn’t :lol:  depending on how well the tub did the first flush, it’s usually not worth it (or if I don’t have any jars ready to replace the sub)



That’s why I usually opt for tossing it and filling the tub with a new sub.  When I do go for a second flush, I just saturate the surface with water via spray bottle and do that a second time the next day to rehydrate the sub.

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I’m a big fan of the heavy misting (point of pooling water) 2-3 days after a flush method.  Any pools left after the 3rd day gets soaked up with a paper towel.  This way you don’t have to mess with sub breakage and you can leave the liner on mostly intact.  Here’s some examples of 1st and second flushes with heavy misting






It gives you a lot of control and prevents the sub from being waterlogged; it’s easy to see when the sub stops absorbing water and it’s locked and loaded for the next flush




I get anywhere from 2.5-4ozs dry per tub on the first flush depending on the culture

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16qt non-SWPE tubs [Re: fahtster]
    #27029127 - 11/08/20 07:08 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Same tub set up but with other varieties besides PE (they all work great)

 

Lately I’ve been splitting the tubs between two varieties (each half gets 1qt of spawn to 3qts CV and then I’ll add a 1/2” peat casing @ 7 days—with the casing, the tubs end up ~1:4). Works great but a lot of times they fruit at slightly different times which isn’t a problem


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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster]
    #27029158 - 11/08/20 07:33 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I dig it faht! I’ve been lurking and searching around all things PE. In your experience is this how you would run APE? Putting some to agar this week and looking at different methods of madness. Thanks for this!


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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: Tankie_J]
    #27029160 - 11/08/20 07:37 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks!  I’ve not grown ape, so I can’t really speak to that.. I’ve only done modern regular PE through these

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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster]
    #27029173 - 11/08/20 07:56 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Very nice! PE is still my favorite to grow


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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster]
    #27029305 - 11/08/20 10:05 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: ModularMind]
    #27029622 - 11/09/20 06:04 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: SingularFusion]
    #27029630 - 11/09/20 06:13 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I like the 16qt tubs:awesomenod:


I didnt drill holes tho.

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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: mushboy]
    #27029637 - 11/09/20 06:21 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

noice! :popcorn:

I love the little glad containers in ziploc!

Would you recommend this route for testing clones? It would be alot nicer to dedicate a shelf to these to test out clones with only a pint or so of spawn vs taking up monos/shoeboxes and quarts with spawn for clones


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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: Camera93]
    #27029742 - 11/09/20 08:03 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks!   

Probably would just leave the em like they came for regular cubes and not drill holes.. PE loves that FAE and the thick casing would make me nervous without it... nice tub, Mush

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noice! :popcorn:

I love the little glad containers in ziploc!

Would you recommend this route for testing clones? It would be alot nicer to dedicate a shelf to these to test out clones with only a pint or so of spawn vs taking up monos/shoeboxes and quarts with spawn for clones




Are you talking about the glad containers for testers?  If so, they’re great!  Yeah I love em.. specifically for testers..  I use them for testing cultures all the time.. the bags and containers come in all different sizes and they’re easy to put holes in.. I like needle holes but you can easily poke/cut hole configuration.. ez dial set up etc.  i use jelly jars of grain for GLC and after I take the Li, I let the grains recolonize and put them to CV in lil glads.. colonize them with the lid on and a 1/4” hole covered with MPT (the larger ones I use two holes) and then transfer them to the ziplock

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if the container is too small, I add a bit of wet perlite in the bottom like here



It’s nice because they fruit before the tubs I made the qts for and it’ll give me an idea of how the tub is going to do



Here’s how that containers tub is doing currently



I do a few cakes in the ziplocks too



Love me some zips and glads.  Bags are reusable of course

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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster]
    #27029751 - 11/09/20 08:10 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Awesome Faht!

Yes the small glad containers, seems perfect for running a bunch of clones to test without using up all the grain and sub 

thanks for all that, looks like I have some tubberware to purchase soon :dancer:


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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: Camera93]
    #27050814 - 11/21/20 05:34 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Spelt bins are starting to pin



I’ve actually got 6 more spelt qts in the pc.. super easy:

Bring to boil, reduce to half (on my stove) set timer for 17 mins, bam done.. don’t know that I’d buy them over rye though.. they’re definitely more expensive

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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster]
    #27110456 - 12/27/20 10:10 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

3 new 16qt PE spelt bins coming in hot (the 6 qts from my last post)



I’ve got 3 new rye bins on the heels of these and then I’m going to shelve the culture.. just spawned 3 tubs, each with a new clone off an ms tub... mainly to make sure my new way of cloning works well start to finish... once those are done, I’ll probably focus strictly on getting crosses and stabilizing pea+ and any others I hopefully obtain.

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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster]
    #27110517 - 12/27/20 10:42 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Wanted to follow this for reference.  Just picked up 16quarts cause my store was out of 6quarts, and said why the hell wouldn’t that work?  Plus I think I’ve got some PE finally cleaned up, so was excited to see this thread!


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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: Land Trout]
    #27110574 - 12/27/20 11:22 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: jcm4620]
    #27111093 - 12/27/20 05:59 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

You the man faht! I knew that blue thumb wouldnt rust after all these years! I think you would kill it with ape.


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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: eatyualive]
    #27111249 - 12/27/20 07:40 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: cronicr]
    #27111688 - 12/28/20 05:11 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Very nice love the ziplock bags for testing  :neat:


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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: Shroomysamba]
    #27114843 - 12/29/20 07:46 PM (3 years, 30 days ago)

Don’t think they’re gonna get much prettier than this so here’s the last shots of the spelt bins



Got three rye bins of the same culture coming up about 5 days behind these.  :grin:

Then it’s 5 pea+ bins and a whole lot of interesting shit after that lol

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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster]
    #27115289 - 12/30/20 01:06 AM (3 years, 29 days ago)

What a great dongfest! Probably the best consistent tubs of pe I've seen. Congrats!


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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: Shr00merN00ber]
    #27115370 - 12/30/20 03:01 AM (3 years, 29 days ago)

Very nice grows and pictures! I can't wait to get some traditional PE genetics again from your giveaway!

The PE I've been growing this last year mostly doesn't look like PE at all.


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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: Messiah of Savants]
    #27115653 - 12/30/20 07:49 AM (3 years, 29 days ago)

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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: filthyknees]
    #27115691 - 12/30/20 08:15 AM (3 years, 29 days ago)

Great write up, I'll have to give the 16qts a whirl next time I wander over to target, I usually use the 6qt

Any benefit to using jiffy mix over your normal sub recipe? Has anyone tried just using plain coir for a casing? I haven't experimented much with casings and my PE is a bit strange anyway but the extra water from the casings will probably help fill out the flushes either way.


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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: Ballzagna]
    #27115710 - 12/30/20 08:29 AM (3 years, 29 days ago)

Oh yeah.. lots of ppl have tried.. me included.. for whatever reason, jiffy (or your own 50/50 mix of verm and peat that’s ph adjusted) makes PE fruit normally.  Has to be thick though.. follow teds write up.  You might get lucky and get a culture that fruits ok with just bulk mix but it’s a gamble.

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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster]
    #27115713 - 12/30/20 08:31 AM (3 years, 29 days ago)

These are fucking amazing, great job.


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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: anatomality]
    #27119971 - 01/01/21 09:13 AM (3 years, 27 days ago)

Those 3 bins together gave me 235.2g dry.  Not bad for 6 qts

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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster]
    #27134179 - 01/07/21 10:21 PM (3 years, 20 days ago)

Coulda been better, coulda been worse for these rye bins


Definitely gonna take the last bin to a 2nd flush.. maybe the second to last too.

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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster]
    #27175337 - 01/28/21 10:07 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Couple clone test tubs.. first time doing my own peat/verm mix instead of using jiffy mix.  I think they’re going to be nice. :grin:

 

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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster]
    #27179489 - 01/31/21 02:14 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

It’ll be interesting how the end weight compares between these two.  Ones got the numbers the others got some jumbos





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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster]
    #27183783 - 02/02/21 10:36 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Clone tub 1 first half


That handful dried down to 33.4gms

Second half is coming in


Clone tub 2


Cracked the lids on the tubs and I’ll probably pick em tomorrow.. I’ve set a 2.5oz benchmark for keeping the cultures. (After a potency test—if they’re ridiculously potent then I’ll prob keep em no matter what based on their eyeballed performance)

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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster]
    #27183799 - 02/02/21 11:07 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: cronicr]
    #27187133 - 02/04/21 09:59 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Found those tubs at Kroger on sale, just don't come to my Kroger I'm gonna buy'em out. I'm gonna run these for my PE and my other grows as well.  I like the idea of less headroom, been using 66qt for my PE. Can't wait to post some results :rockon:


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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: Crackatoa]
    #27187146 - 02/04/21 10:12 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Those are some sick shoeboxes Faht! I have a lot to learn..

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Found those tubs at Kroger on sale, just don't come to my Kroger I'm gonna buy'em out. I'm gonna run these for my PE and my other grows as well.  I like the idea of less headroom, been using 66qt for my PE. Can't wait to post some results :rockon:




Why do you like the idea of less headroom? I've got some PE (and several other cultures) ready for grain and have a variety of tub sizes. If one is better than the other I'm all ears


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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl]
    #27187153 - 02/04/21 10:20 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

I feel like sometimes all that extra room is just more space to keep the conditions right and a smaller area would be simpler. I've gotten great PE grows in my mono's though like this one in a 66qt. But all that unnecessary headroom.


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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: Crackatoa] * 1
    #27187200 - 02/04/21 11:39 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Nice tub crack!  Yeah man.. they really don’t need the headroom.. even my longer fruits just bend over.. it’s not like they grow a Mike a minute lol.. they’ll gradually move.  Even if you didn’t want to do such a small tub like I do compared to a 66qt, you coukd do those under bed tubs that are still short but a bit wider. 

But really, three of these takes up the same space as a regular mono, but it’s like fruiting in all the headroom of a 66 but they fit on my shelf in the closet... basically like fruiting a mono on its side



I use the same amount of spawn I would use in a 66.. 1 brick of coir/6 quarts of spawn.. granted it’s a bit more work with the cleaning but not much. And I get about 8oz with a good culture first flush for the 3.  Horse a piece really, but they fit my set up.

That first tub up there dried down to 2.8oz and the second is in the ‘drator now.. might be a little less but that’s pretty good for my rye tubs.. I bet the first clone would do over 3 on spelt.  Definitely keeping them to try out on spelt later.  Think I’m done for the year with PE tubs though.. I’ve got 2 more spelt tubs just about to fruit and then I’m strictly working on stabilizing p+ and some other crosses

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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster]
    #27188479 - 02/05/21 06:01 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: Crackatoa]
    #27193220 - 02/08/21 08:02 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

:hi: Good morning Faht!

Hey, did you say you used these tubs and hole configuration for other cubensis as well?


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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: Camera93]
    #27193229 - 02/08/21 08:13 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Mornin!  Yeah.. kinda.. they’ve all been PE cross attempts but the hole configuration seems to hold humidity well.. they’re pretty short tubs though.  But the fruits just bend over if they’re tall

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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster]
    #27193271 - 02/08/21 08:45 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

I'm running a few shoebox style just flipping the lid. How did that work out for you? I figured you tried without holes a couple times at least, or did you go straight to drilling and figuring out the configuration?


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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: Crackatoa]
    #27193331 - 02/08/21 09:31 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

I did the holes right away based on the bag FC I made with the tester containers I made.  And then I had all drilled tubs so I haven’t tried it without them.  Please let me know how it turns out. 

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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster]
    #27193345 - 02/08/21 09:38 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Will do, I'm trying it with my PE and my Transki. I'm also trying 50/50 coir to BK. Just for experiment sake.


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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: Crackatoa]
    #27202670 - 02/12/21 09:22 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Tried out 5 tubs with a sw pe multi spore run to great success. I loved them. They worked great! Double cased with CV, 30% relative humidity, 70F

One quart!


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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: PudinLicous] * 3
    #27211912 - 02/17/21 08:26 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Damn.. that’s an awesome culture of that one qt!  Those things look solid af too.

Here’s the last PE 16qts for me this season.  Hanging this culture up.  It’s been a good one but me thinks it’s a little tired and ready



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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster]
    #27212313 - 02/18/21 02:14 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

looks awesome faht, I realized I got a bunch of 16qt instead of 8qt for shoeboxes, so I'll be running some of the same boxes. Did you ever try the 1qt spawn:2qt coir recipe (or similar) for the 16qt tubs?


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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: falconman]
    #27212547 - 02/18/21 07:39 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

The smallest I did was 1.5qt spawn.. they’re the first two pics in that pic block.  I got better results from 2 qts so I ran with those.

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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster]
    #27505579 - 10/15/21 02:56 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Alrighty!  Got 2 bins about to pop… definitely should’ve went with another thin patch layer but this culture was untested and I didn’t think it’d take 25+ Days to start fruiting.. I think it’ll be fine though.. there’s a ton of knots just under the last thin patch layer.. it’s aight, now I know what to expect for later tubs. 


I think this is going to be my workhorse culture.. the baggie I made from the glc grains that made ^^^those tubs is blowing my mind (4oz jar comparison for how much grain goes into the baggies).. I need a second baggie over the top because the fruits are pushing out the opening


Got 8 more tubs coming up behind these (staggered)… some more pec3.. ms, pec4, pec2 and a couple mixed tubs of pec2 & 4 (lol).

I really packed the cv in that baggie, so I’ll be doing like a 1:4 on future tubs.. my usual ratio is 1:2

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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster]
    #27505585 - 10/15/21 03:07 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #27512875 - 10/21/21 08:17 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

First tubs are picking up speed.. I think they’ll fill in nicely


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    #27513061 - 10/22/21 12:02 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

:kaneclap: @ those pe workhorse cultures
this thread is pure win. thanks for sharing!


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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: Atomsplit] * 1
    #27515216 - 10/23/21 02:24 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Coming along nicely..

Pec3 (untested clone that was in stasis since last December)




Pec4 (tested and did great.. also was in stasis)


Just goes to show that sterile grain is sterile grain, friends

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    #27518228 - 10/26/21 12:40 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Tub 1 done.. love this culture.  If the potency is there, it’s definitely a keeper

 

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    #27518237 - 10/26/21 12:58 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Nice chunky haul! What's the weight??

How much variance in PE potency have you experienced? I just ate some of my PE for the first time at a Phish show last week and got completely faced off like 1g lol. I'm hoping I didn't hit the genetic lottery and squander it by not taking any clones. Oh well, I've got ~15lbs of peatmoss left over from the landscaping season so I'll be making plenty of your casing recipe and running a lot of PE this off-season.


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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl] * 2
    #27518248 - 10/26/21 01:19 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Most PE are 1-2g face melters.. I’m sure the potency will be plenty acceptable.. they got that look to em lol  I’ll let
You know the dry weight.. I don’t bother with wet.. I don’t weigh the water I give them.. I mist the casing daily, etc. 

I saw em last week too.. Tuesday :smile:. I was on tamps and PE/apeu.

Horrible pic but I’m lucky I was able to even operate my phone at all lol


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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster]
    #27518262 - 10/26/21 01:58 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Sweeet harvest!

Nice to see you guys getting back to "normal" activities.
Any advice you could share on using a PE swab? I really dont want to mess up.

I've read softer agar- pulling pieces off the swab and jamming it into agar etc.
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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: Atomsplit] * 1
    #27518270 - 10/26/21 02:10 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Pulling strands off seems to work for ppl.  I make my swabs into spore solution. This is how I roll but if you don’t want to burn the whole swab, pull strands or use a nose hair trimming scissors to snip some fibers off.

Here’s some thoughts I’ve posted before about getting the spores dislodged from the swab tips

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Ive posted this before but if you have two of the same swab set I’ve always thought that if you put a drop of sterile water on one of the tips and then rub the two together, they’ll streak better because you dislodge them.  You should still be able to use the second swab later even though you used it to rub against the other.  I actually did a test on some white comp paper with a set of PE swabs doing just that and got a pretty noticeable streak:

Here is just rubbing the dry swabs together (obviously where the spores are and you’d do it over one agar plate) and flakes came off:


And here’s the streak after the drop was added and the swabs were again rubbed together.. it’s kinda hard to see but I started at the upper right hand corner and zig zagged to the bottom left hand corner:


I think the biggest thing is dislodging the spores from the swab fibers and rubbing them together definitely achieves that.

Who doesn’t love a good rub down?  Obviously burying the tips in agar works but then you’re down a swab tip.  Just some food for thought… and if you don’t have two swabs of the same set but have sterile swabs, you could just use a blank one to rub again aar the one you’re trying to streak.  Hell, I might get into agar just so I can try this out lol





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    #27518271 - 10/26/21 02:11 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Damn you had great seats! I saw them Friday in Phoenix. The first set was a bit slow going but the second set absolutely ripped! My wife and I want to order the video of the show because there's no way that even Phish can do with a light show what we were seeing lol.


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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl] * 2
    #27519518 - 10/26/21 09:56 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Second tub done


First tub was 80g on the dot.. definitely a worthy culture weight wise


2 out, 2 in!


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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster] * 3
    #27520875 - 10/27/21 11:38 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

3rd tub done.. this is a different clone (pec4) than the first 2 (pec3)


2nd tub was 77.3g dry.. kinda thought it’d be heavier than #1 but I’ll take it.  2 ms tubs are starting to pin.. gonna grab a few more clones

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    #27520905 - 10/28/21 12:26 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: WyoMX] * 1
    #27568185 - 12/03/21 08:30 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

After some shitty miracle grow peat, I switched to Hoffman Canadian organic and I’m back Bebe! Tubs 1-4 are clone pec4. Tub 1 of 14…


2 of 14 coming in hot..


3 of 14 is actually a p9 top layer tub that I only did 1.5” TL and it was starting to show signs of blob knots so I put a very thin casing layer just to cover the knots and now it’s pinning.. this guy is probably ~ 1:5 ratio with the TL.. there’s only 3” of headroom so I might have to dub tub it


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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster] * 3
    #27572888 - 12/07/21 07:58 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Tub 2 of 14 done


P9 tub gettin there


4 of 14 coming in


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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster]
    #27572912 - 12/07/21 08:24 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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fahtster said: I mist the casing daily, etc. 




Great post faht! I'm running a 16qt PEU unmodified tub currently and keeping optimal surface conditions has been a nightmare.

Do you mist the casing even after pins form? Mist until harvest?

Are you having to fan at all or is the FAE all passive?

What is the advantage of a pH adjusting peat based casing over standard coir?

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    #27573096 - 12/08/21 01:17 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

I usually only mist to keep the casing moist up until pins form.. all FAE is passive.. I don’t fan anything.  I’ve been known to soak up pooling water with paper towel but that’s about all the messing with tubs I do.

It’s all about the end weight, for me.  If I don’t get what I expect from the first flush, I’ll go for a second.. the same culture can vary tub to tub even made at the same time.  Sometimes they’re smaller fruits, sometimes fewer large fruits but as long as I get the end weight range, I’m happy.  I’d say work on dialing your tubs in for your climate so FAE is all passive.. use clean spawn with a culture you’re happy with and they literally grow themselves. 

For my climate, these tubs work great, our might have to do some tweaking depending on where you live.

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I usually only mist to keep the casing moist up until pins form.. all FAE is passive.. I don’t fan anything.  I’ve been known to soak up pooling water with paper towel but that’s about all the messing with tubs I do.

It’s all about the end weight, for me.  If I don’t get what I expect from the first flush, I’ll go for a second.. the same culture can vary tub to tub even made at the same time.  Sometimes they’re smaller fruits, sometimes fewer large fruits but as long as I get the end weight range, I’m happy.  I’d say work on dialing your tubs in for your climate so FAE is all passive.. use clean spawn with a culture you’re happy with and they literally grow themselves. 

For my climate, these tubs work great, our might have to do some tweaking depending on where you live.

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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: aNewBeginning] * 2
    #27576823 - 12/11/21 01:45 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Tub 2 dried down to 89.8g

Tub 3 (P9 TL tub) finished and dried down to 88g


Tub 4 has about a day left on it


Tubs 5 and 6 are a new untested clone from this year.. the donor fruit was a single fat fruit from a baggie




Probably won’t grow those ^^^ guys out again.. there’s better options available.  Although, I’ll keep the culture around though just in case they’re incredibly potent

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    #27581716 - 12/14/21 10:57 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah boi. Looking good faht, it's nice to come back to this thread and see your progress.

Your results speak for themselves. I'm going to invest in some peat and verm.

I'm struggling to find PE spores anywhere =(

I've got APE and OG melmak on plates though.

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    #27581729 - 12/14/21 11:26 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Are you in the states?  We (the tribe members) are doing an end of year giveaway . I’ve got some PE and apeu left


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Are you in the states?  We (the tribe members) are doing an end of year giveaway . I’ve got some PE and apeu left




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    #27581739 - 12/14/21 11:49 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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    #27581746 - 12/14/21 11:57 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Nice.. that’ll get ya something extra in your letter.  :thumbup:

Just to keep things updated…

End of tub 5


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    #27591170 - 12/22/21 08:15 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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    #27591248 - 12/22/21 09:36 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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    #27591630 - 12/23/21 09:15 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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    #27600485 - 12/30/21 10:02 PM (2 years, 28 days ago)

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    #27600511 - 12/30/21 10:29 PM (2 years, 28 days ago)

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    #27600524 - 12/30/21 10:41 PM (2 years, 28 days ago)

Do you do cvg substrate or?

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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: r3volution.gurl]
    #27600538 - 12/30/21 10:52 PM (2 years, 28 days ago)

Jeez those fat chonkers!
Is this Any Special culture or Just good conditions and Genetic lottery?
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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: Seekerqt] * 3
    #27617803 - 01/13/22 07:42 PM (2 years, 15 days ago)

Fell behind on this thread.. last PE tub of the season


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    #27617844 - 01/13/22 08:13 PM (2 years, 15 days ago)

Way to leave on a high note! Are you done growing for the season or are you just switching to something else?


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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl]
    #27617878 - 01/13/22 09:13 PM (2 years, 14 days ago)

Last PE.. I’ve got a handful of melmak tubs and zipblocks and then it’s all gonna be cross work.. tubs and cakes and sandwich baggies :smile:

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    #27617881 - 01/13/22 09:21 PM (2 years, 14 days ago)

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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: tripdawg420]
    #27617891 - 01/13/22 09:32 PM (2 years, 14 days ago)

Nice. This season I'm running all the varieties I've been gifted/traded for so I don't feel like I got them just to hoard and run a mega giveaway when I pack up for the year. But NEXT season is going to be all crosses and experimentation.


It's gonna feel kinda empty around here without seeing your PE flushes but I'm sure you've got some cool stuff in the works, as usual!


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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl] * 2
    #27629150 - 01/23/22 01:53 AM (2 years, 5 days ago)

Mak tubs

Cased.. letting this one go long so I can get a good amount of swabs


Regular mixed with 1” comp TL.. aka, cluster fack


Laymixed w/1” comp TL coming in last but I think it’s gonna be a nice fat harvest


Some 2nd flush PE tubs


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    #27629172 - 01/23/22 03:18 AM (2 years, 5 days ago)

"letting this one go long so I can get a good amount of swabs"

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Re: Faht’s 16qt SWPE (PE) tubs (and non-swpe tubs) [Re: fahtster]
    #28380173 - 06/30/23 12:48 PM (6 months, 26 days ago)

Thanks for this thread, doing 2 sterlyte purple latch 15qt tubs of Ghost, will let you know how it goes?

Did 2.5 (myco) quarts to 3qts coco coir with 1qt pseudo casing...

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    #28380174 - 06/30/23 12:49 PM (6 months, 26 days ago)

Nice.  Please do :popcorn:


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    #28610168 - 01/05/24 06:26 AM (23 days, 13 hours ago)

I'm gonna give this a try. Just curious, how's the light transmission on those lids? They look pretty opaque.. or do you rely on enough light from the sides?


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    #28610172 - 01/05/24 06:37 AM (23 days, 13 hours ago)

Some gets through but you can find tubs (15-16qt) with clear lids.  there’s plenty light coming though the sides as well :thumbup:


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