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 Faht’s 16qt PE tubs  4
#27028841 - 11/08/20 05:41 PM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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So this isn’t anything new, I’m just logging my tub construction and procedure for my PE tubs.. there’s a few things that I specifically haven’t seen elsewhere like the 1/16” holes and the tubs work well, so here we go!
I’m using the 16qt sterlite tubs.. got em at target for like $3. They have white lids that just click on so there’s an imperfect seal there.
The height of the tubs is perfect for PE since they tend to grow short and fat and there isn’t extra tub height to maintain conditions in.
BULK RECIPE is the normal 650gm coir to 2 qts verm to 1 gallon water bucket tek. Currently using coco bliss and I’m liking it.
I use 2 myco qts to 4 qts of CV per tub and make 3 tubs per bucket tek.. so, I use 6 qts per bucket recipe.
Average rh in my area is 60% during my grow period
1. Start by drilling 1/16” holes all around the tub at the subs surface level (being such small holes, the bit glides right through and it’s really fast to drill a whole tub).. staggered every 2.5” or so.. I usually just eyeball it when I’m putting the sharpie points on the tub like so
I came up with this hole configuration because I was getting back into growing PE and did some tester glad containers last year (I was also testing out Tedsdead casing strategy):
I started out by poking needle holes about every 3 inches all over the bag.. when they started to fruit, they seemed to be stalling a bit so I doubled up on the needle holes at the surface level and then they really took off
So I wanted to replicate that in tub form and this was the design I came up with. My fruits tend to be really chunky and thick and I think this is because of the extra FAE those holes provide
Obviously clean/wash everything.. tubs etc. I’m not going to tell ya to do those things here.. you should be doing that without instruction lol
2. 30 gallon black garbage bags, when folded in half and cut are perfect for making two liners (i actually iso the liners because I don’t trust manufacturers to sterilize them.. I mean, why would they? They’re garbage bags.  and it takes exactly 8 seconds). I spray water on the inside of the tub and lay the liner down.. the water keeps the bag stuck to the sides of the tub
3. Take 1 of 2 qts and break it up and put it into a 2 gallon freezer ziplock (these I do trust to be clean—it’s for food).. I like using a bag for mixing because it mixes the CV and grains extremely well.. the other reason is that it’s really nice to be able to break up the grains further by kneading the outside of the bag and You don’t have to touch it with hands at all.
4. Add 2 qts of CV to the bag
5. Leaving some air in the bag, I zip it and while holding the zip side tightly, I shake the shit out of it for like a solid 30 seconds to mix.
6. Pour that out into the tub and level off.
7. Repeat steps 3 - 6 with the second qt of spawn
8. I cut off the excess bag on the short ends and the tamp down the edges of the sub.
9. I use 3” micropore tape to tape up all the 1/16” holes on the tub except for like 3 on each short side (this will come off later in the grow)
10. Put the lid on and repeat for all the tubs and the tubs are made!
These usually colonize in 3-5 days.. the spelt tubs I made recently colonized in 3
I follow Tedsdead PE casing strategy but I use jiffy mix that I pasteurize on the stove top.. instructions can be found Here
Update: jiffy started adding coir to their recipe so I opted to make my own peat/verm/lime/gypsum mix that I detailed Here
Once the sub is completely colonized, I case it with jiffy @ a 1/2” (keeping it moist by lightly spraying it ~ once a day.. sometimes it’s once every other day).. once that’s colonized, i remove the micropore tape covering the 1/16” holes on the outside of the tub.. then I recase @ another 1/2” or so.. once that’s colonized, I patch until the myc tightens up and knot start to form.. once pins show up, I stop misting
A couple days before the fruits are ready and the sub starts turning blue, I bottom water by putting a 1/4 cup of water down between the liner on both long sides
These are the first tubs I did this way and only used 1.5qts of spawn
 
I bumped it up to 2qts and they put out these flushes
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I usually just go one flush but sometimes I go for a 2nd and it works out alright
  
But usually it doesn’t depending on how well the tub did the first flush, it’s usually not worth it (or if I don’t have any jars ready to replace the sub)
That’s why I usually opt for tossing it and filling the tub with a new sub. When I do go for a second flush, I just saturate the surface with water via spray bottle and do that a second time the next day to rehydrate the sub.
I get anywhere from 2-3ozs dry per tub on the first flush depending on the culture
That it!
Faht
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 Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster]
#27029127 - 11/08/20 09:08 PM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster]
#27029158 - 11/08/20 09:33 PM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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I dig it faht! I’ve been lurking and searching around all things PE. In your experience is this how you would run APE? Putting some to agar this week and looking at different methods of madness. Thanks for this!
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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: Tankie_J]
#27029160 - 11/08/20 09:37 PM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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Thanks! I’ve not grown ape, so I can’t really speak to that.. I’ve only done modern regular PE through these
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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster]
#27029173 - 11/08/20 09:56 PM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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Very nice! PE is still my favorite to grow
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 Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster]
#27029305 - 11/09/20 12:05 AM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: ModularMind]
#27029622 - 11/09/20 08:04 AM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: Nef]
#27029630 - 11/09/20 08:13 AM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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I like the 16qt tubs
I didnt drill holes tho.
Nice dongs!
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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: mushboy]
#27029637 - 11/09/20 08:21 AM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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noice! 
I love the little glad containers in ziploc!
Would you recommend this route for testing clones? It would be alot nicer to dedicate a shelf to these to test out clones with only a pint or so of spawn vs taking up monos/shoeboxes and quarts with spawn for clones
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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: Camera93]
#27029742 - 11/09/20 10:03 AM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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Thanks!
Probably would just leave the em like they came for regular cubes and not drill holes.. PE loves that FAE and the thick casing would make me nervous without it... nice tub, Mush
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noice!
I love the little glad containers in ziploc!
Would you recommend this route for testing clones? It would be alot nicer to dedicate a shelf to these to test out clones with only a pint or so of spawn vs taking up monos/shoeboxes and quarts with spawn for clones
Are you talking about the glad containers for testers? If so, they’re great! Yeah I love em.. specifically for testers.. I use them for testing cultures all the time.. the bags and containers come in all different sizes and they’re easy to put holes in.. I like needle holes but you can easily poke/cut hole configuration.. ez dial set up etc. i use jelly jars of grain for GLC and after I take the Li, I let the grains recolonize and put them to CV in lil glads.. colonize them with the lid on and a 1/4” hole covered with MPT (the larger ones I use two holes) and then transfer them to the ziplock
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if the container is too small, I add a bit of wet perlite in the bottom like here
It’s nice because they fruit before the tubs I made the qts for and it’ll give me an idea of how the tub is going to do
Here’s how that containers tub is doing currently
I do a few cakes in the ziplocks too
Love me some zips and glads. Bags are reusable of course
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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster]
#27029751 - 11/09/20 10:10 AM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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Awesome Faht!
Yes the small glad containers, seems perfect for running a bunch of clones to test without using up all the grain and sub
thanks for all that, looks like I have some tubberware to purchase soon 
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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: Camera93]
#27050814 - 11/21/20 07:34 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Spelt bins are starting to pin
I’ve actually got 6 more spelt qts in the pc.. super easy:
Bring to boil, reduce to half (on my stove) set timer for 17 mins, bam done.. don’t know that I’d buy them over rye though.. they’re definitely more expensive
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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster]
#27110456 - 12/27/20 12:10 PM (2 months, 8 days ago) |
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3 new 16qt PE spelt bins coming in hot (the 6 qts from my last post)
  
I’ve got 3 new rye bins on the heels of these and then I’m going to shelve the culture.. just spawned 3 tubs, each with a new clone off an ms tub... mainly to make sure my new way of cloning works well start to finish... once those are done, I’ll probably focus strictly on getting crosses and stabilizing pea+ and any others I hopefully obtain.
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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster]
#27110517 - 12/27/20 12:42 PM (2 months, 8 days ago) |
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Wanted to follow this for reference. Just picked up 16quarts cause my store was out of 6quarts, and said why the hell wouldn’t that work? Plus I think I’ve got some PE finally cleaned up, so was excited to see this thread!
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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: Land Trout]
#27110574 - 12/27/20 01:22 PM (2 months, 8 days ago) |
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beautiful pics faht👍👍
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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: jcm4620]
#27111093 - 12/27/20 07:59 PM (2 months, 8 days ago) |
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You the man faht! I knew that blue thumb wouldnt rust after all these years! I think you would kill it with ape.
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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: eatyualive]
#27111249 - 12/27/20 09:40 PM (2 months, 8 days ago) |
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Amazing grow fam
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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: cronicr]
#27111688 - 12/28/20 07:11 AM (2 months, 8 days ago) |
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Very nice love the ziplock bags for testing 
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Don’t think they’re gonna get much prettier than this so here’s the last shots of the spelt bins
Got three rye bins of the same culture coming up about 5 days behind these. 
Then it’s 5 pea+ bins and a whole lot of interesting shit after that lol
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Re: Faht’s 16qt PE tubs (moved) [Re: fahtster]
#27115289 - 12/30/20 03:06 AM (2 months, 6 days ago) |
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What a great dongfest! Probably the best consistent tubs of pe I've seen. Congrats!
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