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SnowDaze
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Mushrooms and Meditation 2
#27024690 - 11/06/20 09:39 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have recently gone back into recovery from hard drugs but I still plan on using Mushrooms for spiritual reasons. I always have basically gone into the experience with a blank mind and just see what happens but does anyone have experience with meditating and focusing on a connection with the Divine? I am trying to have more of a guided experience with intent behind it rather than just winging it. Figure it should lead to less anxiety in the experience also. Thanks!
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funky123
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Re: Mushrooms and Meditation [Re: SnowDaze]
#27024991 - 11/06/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I find meditating under the influence of psychedelics interesting if it works but it barely does. For the sake of tripping with intent I guess it's most important to meditate over your intent before tripping and maybe during the come up. Conscious breathing will definitely help with controlling or avoiding anxiety during the come up. But that intent needs to have been installed before tripping b/c control of intent is precisely what is inhibited by psychedelics.
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LosTresOjos
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Re: Mushrooms and Meditation [Re: funky123]
#27025004 - 11/06/20 12:49 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Meditation in the presence of psychedelics actually seems to work. Almost as if you just need the psychedelic.
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SnowDaze
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Re: Mushrooms and Meditation [Re: LosTresOjos]
#27025076 - 11/06/20 01:25 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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i will meditate before for intent and try to draw in the divine energy. not all meditation is sitting in silence though, maybe ill try some guided meditation to lead part of the experience
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Re: Mushrooms and Meditation [Re: SnowDaze]
#27026278 - 11/07/20 08:04 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Let us know how you get on, I’m intrigued. Might the be the inspiration I need to start meditating myself, after contemplating it for a few years (pardon the pun!)
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Re: Mushrooms and Meditation [Re: DJ Ed] 1
#27026369 - 11/07/20 08:59 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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During trips, sitting in meditation position and following the breath gets exhilaratingly wonderful if you are in a peaceful setting, and if that way of sitting on the floor is comfortable for you. I usually put my hands on my knees and keep eyes open if stoned, so not in full meditation attitude, it's tripping time not practice.
As it is not a practice, you can just drift back into it and out of it without much effort, but when you are connecting with the moment this way it is the best.
gentle light efforts are all that are required, and leave other people to their own oceans of experiences as you go through it too.
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yes I agree with redgreenvines
last time I was on wweed I sat and meditated for hours
or a long time at least
it was extremely times two good
I'm glad redgreenvines wrote that cause then I'll meditate on psychedelics
may I say there's not telling what can happen when you do that
found a much better seed selection and did biden prayers after
and found path of purification
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Re: Mushrooms and Meditation [Re: Ferdinando]
#27026622 - 11/07/20 11:21 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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thank you for writing this OP
when one is on psychedelics one might as well meditate when one is on them
for as long time as possible!

hahaha
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Re: Mushrooms and Meditation [Re: Ferdinando]
#27026665 - 11/07/20 11:42 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I like the idea of sitting for a year like that
and for a whole mushrooms trip
and for a longer trip which would require something like lsd
mescaline would be good because it's such a clear headspace and you can easily say I have to meditate for the whole trip or I'm gonna do it and do it
it's relatively easy to do two hours but when it's that good it would be sa shame not to do it
think of lord of the rings!
hahaha
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Re: Mushrooms and Meditation [Re: Ferdinando]
#27026669 - 11/07/20 11:45 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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it's not to sound like a threat but I have become very getting things doner and task oriented and I just believe in doing what is best
so I am just recommending it extremely times 10 highly
ha
we say good things come to those who get stoned good things come to it from you when you meditate on a psychedelic
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Re: Mushrooms and Meditation [Re: Ferdinando]
#27027889 - 11/08/20 03:00 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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one would say to oneself I will meditate 2 hours 30 mins. after having ingested it and 2 hours after a 5-30 minute break
+ 2 points for everyone on the earth
(it will give)
it doesn't give instant infinite progress but it will assist with deeply important and significant things
it is extremely times two needed
ah maybe not 2 points for everyone
that would require more
one would sit till one had become really much better for all of the universe
2 thousandparts of a point it gives to everyone
average at least
(4 hours)
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Edited by Ferdinando (11/11/20 06:21 AM)
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Re: Mushrooms and Meditation [Re: SnowDaze] 1
#27027904 - 11/08/20 03:26 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I find my ability to focus and meditate has improved while OFF psychedelics, as a result of having used them sparingly (about once a year).
Anyone else find this?
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Re: Mushrooms and Meditation [Re: Ferdinando]
#27027968 - 11/08/20 05:42 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ferdinando,
I think you have latched onto numbers a bit more than you need to.
I can feel where you are at without the precise metrics.
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infinityblue
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I always meditate during come up to ensure my trip will be positive and meaningful. (and I highly suggest this practice to others!)
There is a lot of scientific evidence that meditation and psilocybin affect the same region in the brain - Default mode network (DMN) suppressing it's activity.
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