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Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail?
    #27027796 - 11/08/20 02:23 AM (25 days, 2 hours ago)

There was some obvious campaign laws and tax laws that were broken by Trump. You cannot charge a sitting President with crimes - that's what Impeachment is, and he was. A true patriot of "Law and Order" should agree that IF Trump broke the law, then he should go to jail. If not, then how do you stop other people from do this?

That being said, do you think he will get to have Secret Service in jail?


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: hallmaker] * 1
    #27027874 - 11/08/20 04:10 AM (25 days, 1 hour ago)

He will never get prosecuted even if all the shit he did is provable.  Too many people in high up places think it makes the united states 'look bad' to prosecute a current or past president.  They will just want to 'move on' to 'heal the country' after the hooohaw noise gets made about it for a bit.

At WORST he gets some fines from the states over taxes or some nonsense.


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: mndfreeze] * 2
    #27028256 - 11/08/20 11:45 AM (24 days, 17 hours ago)

What laws were specifically broken by Trump?


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: qman]
    #27028751 - 11/08/20 04:39 PM (24 days, 12 hours ago)

Ask his personal lawyer, Michael Dean Cohen, AFTER you Google why his lawyer went to jail - if you're allowed to ask these kinds of questions. I have taken the effort to paste his lawyers crimes and punishments below. How many people in Trump's circle has gone to jail? I'm sure that you will respond with something about Hunter Biden, Obama, etc. as your justification and that is your own choice. It is people like you that have looked the other way for years, while crying "Law and Order".

One big difference between Hunter Biden or any other excuse that you come up with is - lack of evidence. How can you say that the police are on Trump's side, which in reality most are, but then they cannot find any evidence of wrong doing? Even with his other lawyer - William Barr - assisting? However, do not think for one second that there are not crimes that have been broken by Trump.

They say that love is blind.....

On December 12, 2018, he was sentenced to three years in federal prison and ordered to pay a $50,000 fine after pleading guilty to tax evasion and campaign finance violations.


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: hallmaker] * 2
    #27028800 - 11/08/20 05:11 PM (24 days, 12 hours ago)

I think qman asked what laws were broken by Trump, not the people around him.  :shrug:


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27028973 - 11/08/20 07:25 PM (24 days, 9 hours ago)

Obstruction of justice and lying to investigators at the very least


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27028997 - 11/08/20 07:45 PM (24 days, 9 hours ago)

Homeboy will get pardoned on the federal level, and maybe even by Cuomo at the state....all in the name of national healing.


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #27029006 - 11/08/20 07:52 PM (24 days, 9 hours ago)

It remains to be seen whether he can pardon himself. Nobody else is going to do it, and certainly not Cuomo.

If convicted his former position will probably lead to preferential sentencing.


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27029007 - 11/08/20 07:53 PM (24 days, 9 hours ago)

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Obstruction of justice and lying to investigators at the very least




Throw in some disorderly conduct and smelling like marijuana in there as well.


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
    #27029033 - 11/08/20 08:10 PM (24 days, 9 hours ago)

No one is going to allow a former president to go to jail. Americans didnt want Nixon pardoned either.


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #27029085 - 11/08/20 08:48 PM (24 days, 8 hours ago)

He probably doesn't serve time, but let's recall that Nixon was pardoned by the President. It's still major speculation that Trump can get away with pardoning himself, and wild speculation that Trump will resign and Pence will pardon him.


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: qman]
    #27029090 - 11/08/20 08:51 PM (24 days, 8 hours ago)

Michael Dean Cohen, Trump's long-time lawyer and just one of the many arrested in Trump's group, was doing who's taxes and running who's campaign when he was breaking the law? If this was any Democrat, you would be happy connect the dots. Remember, "Lock her up!"?

I am sure you somehow you can connect the dots on Hunter Biden's laptop or Trump being cheated on the election, but Trump breaking the law is not possible?

If Trump supporters would learn to put country-before-party, a person like Trump would not be possible.


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: Brian Jones]
    #27029093 - 11/08/20 08:52 PM (24 days, 8 hours ago)

Dude, Biden will pardon Trump. "Time to Heal" said Joe.


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #27029123 - 11/08/20 09:07 PM (24 days, 8 hours ago)

He's already said he would not stand in the way of any prosecution.


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: Brian Jones]
    #27029146 - 11/08/20 09:22 PM (24 days, 7 hours ago)

We shall see, the investigations need to hurry or it will be Kamala that does it.


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: Brian Jones]
    #27029154 - 11/08/20 09:30 PM (24 days, 7 hours ago)

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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: hallmaker] * 1
    #27029156 - 11/08/20 09:31 PM (24 days, 7 hours ago)

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Michael Dean Cohen, Trump's long-time lawyer and just one of the many arrested in Trump's group, was doing who's taxes and running who's campaign when he was breaking the law? If this was any Democrat, you would be happy connect the dots. Remember, "Lock her up!"?

I am sure you somehow you can connect the dots on Hunter Biden's laptop or Trump being cheated on the election, but Trump breaking the law is not possible?

If Trump supporters would learn to put country-before-party, a person like Trump would not be possible.




Sure, it's definitely possible that Trump broke the law, but the best method to use is to provide evidence for that possibility.

The reason why Trump got elected is because The Establishment puts power and wealth above the country.


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: qman]
    #27029172 - 11/08/20 09:56 PM (24 days, 7 hours ago)

The barriers to getting evidence are about to be greatly reduced.


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: Brian Jones] * 2
    #27029192 - 11/08/20 10:19 PM (24 days, 6 hours ago)

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The barriers to getting evidence are about to be greatly reduced.




That's using a very large assumption that there even is evidence in existence, correct?


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: qman]
    #27029204 - 11/08/20 10:26 PM (24 days, 6 hours ago)

The Establishment for power and wealth above country? Really? So you elected Trump - a guy that will not show his taxes and is going to the courts in a last ditch effort to hold onto power? Are you now taking wild guesses or reading right from QAnon?

Right now - there are 2 kinds of people in the US.

1. Believe in science, facts and the news. Yes, the news gets its wrong and plays to their own audience. But, name 1 business that is right 100% of the time? Plus, the news is the ONLY thing that keeps people with power in check.

2. People the believe Donald Trump.

P.S. - It was people from Donald Trump's team that came up with the term "alternative fact".


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: hallmaker] * 1
    #27029255 - 11/08/20 11:22 PM (24 days, 5 hours ago)

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The Establishment for power and wealth above country? Really? So you elected Trump - a guy that will not show his taxes and is going to the courts in a last ditch effort to hold onto power? Are you now taking wild guesses or reading right from QAnon?

Right now - there are 2 kinds of people in the US.

1. Believe in science, facts and the news. Yes, the news gets its wrong and plays to their own audience. But, name 1 business that is right 100% of the time? Plus, the news is the ONLY thing that keeps people with power in check.

2. People the believe Donald Trump.

P.S. - It was people from Donald Trump's team that came up with the term "alternative fact".




Yeah, the Corporate Media is the only thing that keeps a government controlled by the Corporate Establishment in check. :huxleyfacepalm:


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: qman]
    #27029278 - 11/08/20 11:38 PM (24 days, 5 hours ago)

The ONLY media control I know of is the "Catch-and-Kill" that Donald Trump and the National Enquirer used to keep his mistresses quite. Each response I have comes with the scary F word ("facts") that can be looked up. Your response is whatever Donald Trump says it is.

Yes, the media can be mean. But they are scary to people in power. The last thing they need is for the things they do to be known. First rule of a dictator - go after the media. Trump himself has been quoted as saying the main reason that he tries to discredit the media, is so that people will not believe them when they publish a story he does not like. All these things can be looked up, if your allowed to.

The parent company of magazines including the National Enquirer, Us Weekly and In Touch has admitted to engaging in a journalistically dubious practice known as “catch-and-kill” in order to help Donald Trump become president.

https://apnews.com/article/1beb4bf23d0043eab87396ec56054814


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: hallmaker] * 1
    #27029341 - 11/09/20 12:38 AM (24 days, 4 hours ago)

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So you elected Trump - a guy that will not show his taxes and is going to the courts in a last ditch effort to hold onto power?



The Supreme Court can't keep Trump in power unless they determine he won the election.  If he won the election, don't you think he should be in power.  :shrug:

Or what do you think, Trump will ask the Supreme Court if he can just stay in power a little longer and they'll say "Ok, sure"?

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...there are 2 kinds of people in the US.

1. Believe in science, facts and the news.

2. People the believe Donald Trump.



You forgot 1.5 and 2.5:
1.5  People who don't believe in science and facts
2.5  People who believe Joe Biden

To generalize that Trump supporters don't believe in science and facts is just silly.  Of course there are some that don't, but the make believe is getting ridiculous.


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27029367 - 11/09/20 01:01 AM (24 days, 4 hours ago)

Yes, the courts cannot keep him in power. But everyone knew Trump was gonna be a chump and try something. I'm sure his supporters will also give him a pass on calling our voting system corrupt as they have for all his other behavior. Him saying their was fake counting going on, caused 2 armed supporters to go down there and "straighten things out". Trump is the kind of person that would sit back and watch it burn knowing he lost.

P.S. - he paid more taxes to China than he did federal taxes ($750) rothe US.


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: hallmaker]
    #27029406 - 11/09/20 01:43 AM (24 days, 3 hours ago)

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Yes, the courts cannot keep him in power.



Exactly.

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I'm sure his supporters will also give him a pass on calling our voting system corrupt as they have for all his other behavior.



I'll even give him a pass for that.  Did you miss the DNC primaries?

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P.S. - he paid more taxes to China than he did federal taxes ($750) rothe US.



Yes, our tax system benefits the wealthy.


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27029521 - 11/09/20 05:57 AM (23 days, 23 hours ago)

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The barriers to getting evidence are about to be greatly reduced.




That's using a very large assumption that there even is evidence in existence, correct?




He lied to mueller in sworn written testimony.

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The Supreme Court can't keep Trump in power unless they determine he won the election.  If he won the election, don't you think he should be in power.  :shrug:



That’s not true. The Supreme Court could rule that certain ballots be excluded, for example. That is not determining he won the election, but it could result in him winning the election.


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: koods]
    #27029926 - 11/09/20 12:12 PM (23 days, 17 hours ago)

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The Supreme Court could rule that certain ballots be excluded, for example. That is not determining he won the election, but it could result in him winning the election.



Ok, certain ballots that don't meet the proper legal criteria could be excluded.  Like the ballots of people who were dead before the election started.


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27029951 - 11/09/20 12:32 PM (23 days, 16 hours ago)

By your definition, when did the election start?


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    #27029968 - 11/09/20 12:44 PM (23 days, 16 hours ago)

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The ONLY media control I know of is the "Catch-and-Kill" that Donald Trump and the National Enquirer used to keep his mistresses quite. Each response I have comes with the scary F word ("facts") that can be looked up. Your response is whatever Donald Trump says it is.

Yes, the media can be mean. But they are scary to people in power. The last thing they need is for the things they do to be known. First rule of a dictator - go after the media. Trump himself has been quoted as saying the main reason that he tries to discredit the media, is so that people will not believe them when they publish a story he does not like. All these things can be looked up, if your allowed to.

The parent company of magazines including the National Enquirer, Us Weekly and In Touch has admitted to engaging in a journalistically dubious practice known as “catch-and-kill” in order to help Donald Trump become president.

https://apnews.com/article/1beb4bf23d0043eab87396ec56054814




This is laughable, the MSM isn't scary to people in power. The MSM is under the control of The Elite, they use it for endless false narratives and to make sure key issues aren't up for debate. You really can't be this naive, can you?

Also, Trump didn't do anything to shutdown the media. Is being highly critical of Fake News shutting down free speech?  No. I really think you need to address the TDS that might be affecting your view of the world.


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: Enlil]
    #27030007 - 11/09/20 01:10 PM (23 days, 16 hours ago)

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By your definition, when did the election start?



When the ballots were mailed out.


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: qman]
    #27030009 - 11/09/20 01:11 PM (23 days, 16 hours ago)

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The MSM isn't scary to people in power. The MSM is under the control of The Elite, they use it for endless false narratives and to make sure key issues aren't up for debate. You really can't be this naive, can you?

Also, Trump didn't do anything to shutdown the media. Is being highly critical of Fake News shutting down free speech?  No. I really think you need to address the TDS that might be affecting your view of the world.



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By your definition, when did the election start?



When the ballots were mailed out.



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    #27030022 - 11/09/20 01:17 PM (23 days, 15 hours ago)

Trump is terrified of the media. That's why he's always trying to clarify things on twitter


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #27030043 - 11/09/20 01:30 PM (23 days, 15 hours ago)

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Trump is terrified of the media. That's why he's always trying to clarify things on twitter




Trump got the MSM to provide endless free campaign coverage in 2016, he manipulated the media into providing the free coverage and ultimately getting him elected US President.

Twitter provides another information outlet that doesn't require the traditional MSM approval, that's forever going to change the political world.

The MSM lost tons of credibility with the general public during Trump's term in office. Fake News is a perfect description of what occurred and that's not likely going to be fixed in the near future.


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By your definition, when did the election start?



When the ballots were mailed out.



If people died before that then they couldn't fill out a ballot.



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    #27030308 - 11/09/20 03:59 PM (23 days, 13 hours ago)

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The ONLY media control I know of is the "Catch-and-Kill" that Donald Trump and the National Enquirer used to keep his mistresses quite. Each response I have comes with the scary F word ("facts") that can be looked up. Your response is whatever Donald Trump says it is.

Yes, the media can be mean. But they are scary to people in power. The last thing they need is for the things they do to be known. First rule of a dictator - go after the media. Trump himself has been quoted as saying the main reason that he tries to discredit the media, is so that people will not believe them when they publish a story he does not like. All these things can be looked up, if your allowed to.

The parent company of magazines including the National Enquirer, Us Weekly and In Touch has admitted to engaging in a journalistically dubious practice known as “catch-and-kill” in order to help Donald Trump become president.

https://apnews.com/article/1beb4bf23d0043eab87396ec56054814




This is laughable, the MSM isn't scary to people in power. The MSM is under the control of The Elite, they use it for endless false narratives and to make sure key issues aren't up for debate. You really can't be this naive, can you?

Also, Trump didn't do anything to shutdown the media. Is being highly critical of Fake News shutting down free speech?  No. I really think you need to address the TDS that might be affecting your view of the world.




Trump improperly intervened in the merger of AT&T and Time Warner, trying to block the deal to spite CNN, which is owned by Time Warner.  https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/congress-must-investigate-whether-trump-intervened-in-the-atandt-case/2019/03/06/fabeaf60-4038-11e9-a0d3-1210e58a94cf_story.html%3foutputType=amp

Trump personally intervened to force the post office to charge Amazon a lot more for shipping as part of his vendetta against Washington Post owner Jeff Bezos


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The ONLY media control I know of is the "Catch-and-Kill" that Donald Trump and the National Enquirer used to keep his mistresses quite. Each response I have comes with the scary F word ("facts") that can be looked up. Your response is whatever Donald Trump says it is.

Yes, the media can be mean. But they are scary to people in power. The last thing they need is for the things they do to be known. First rule of a dictator - go after the media. Trump himself has been quoted as saying the main reason that he tries to discredit the media, is so that people will not believe them when they publish a story he does not like. All these things can be looked up, if your allowed to.

The parent company of magazines including the National Enquirer, Us Weekly and In Touch has admitted to engaging in a journalistically dubious practice known as “catch-and-kill” in order to help Donald Trump become president.

https://apnews.com/article/1beb4bf23d0043eab87396ec56054814




This is laughable, the MSM isn't scary to people in power. The MSM is under the control of The Elite, they use it for endless false narratives and to make sure key issues aren't up for debate. You really can't be this naive, can you?

Also, Trump didn't do anything to shutdown the media. Is being highly critical of Fake News shutting down free speech?  No. I really think you need to address the TDS that might be affecting your view of the world.




Trump improperly intervened in the merger of AT&T and Time Warner, trying to block the deal to spite CNN, which is owned by Time Warner.  https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/congress-must-investigate-whether-trump-intervened-in-the-atandt-case/2019/03/06/fabeaf60-4038-11e9-a0d3-1210e58a94cf_story.html%3foutputType=amp

Trump personally intervened to force the post office to charge Amazon a lot more for shipping as part of his vendetta against Washington Post owner Jeff Bezos




Well, CNN and the WP are still up and running spewing all the Fake News they always have in the past. Don't worry, Bezos will be a trillionaire in a few years despite the post office making a few more bucks.


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    #27030529 - 11/09/20 07:12 PM (23 days, 10 hours ago)

There would have been allot less fake news if our whitehouse press secretaries would have told the truth at some point .
  You can't work , vote or support Trump and do that though can you ?


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    #27030549 - 11/09/20 07:39 PM (23 days, 9 hours ago)

Moral to the story:

1. tRump lost
2. His supporters are butt-hurt right now and I am loving it
3. There is no lawsuit he can bring that will change this
4. Not just the majority of the country, but the majority of the world is happier for it
5. Mueller Report sighted that a sitting President cannot be charged. He did this for a reason or do you think he was just putting it there for fun? tRump is no longer a sitting President in 2+ months. The statues of limitations is typically 7 years for most laws. He will then be eligible for charges. Like it or not
6. If you are a true "Law and Order" party, then you will not get in the way

Bonus P.S. Me, the country and the entire world can see that Joe Biden is getting old and starting to lose it. But that should show you something anout your boy tRump - we would rather have a half senile good man than a sane tRump


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Re: Will Trump be allowed Secret Service in Jail? [Re: hallmaker]
    #27030611 - 11/09/20 08:22 PM (23 days, 8 hours ago)

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Mueller Report sighted that a sitting President cannot be charged. He did this for a reason or do you think he was just putting it there for fun? tRump is no longer a sitting President in 2+ months. The statues of limitations is typically 7 years for most laws. He will then be eligible for charges. Like it or not



Mueller had nothing on Trump and he knew it.  That's becoming clearer the more the report gets redacted (that's why no one here appears to have heard about the last round of redactions until I brought it up).

Saying a sitting President can't be charged was the country's excuse for finding nothing, and even if they CAN charge Trump, it's pretty clear there is nothing in the report to charge him for, other than obstruction of justice.  But since they found nothing, that likely won't even fly.  I'll make a signature bet with anyone about this.


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There would have been allot less fake news if our whitehouse press secretaries would have told the truth at some point .
  You can't work , vote or support Trump and do that though can you ?




I fail to see the direct correlation of Trump and his Administration not telling the truth and the MSM also doing the same thing in many instances. Can't the MSM stop with the false narratives despite the fact that Trump was telling a bunch of lies?


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    #27030663 - 11/09/20 09:11 PM (23 days, 8 hours ago)

I think the MSM gets it right way more than they get it wrong.


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    #27030675 - 11/09/20 09:18 PM (23 days, 7 hours ago)

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Moral to the story:

1. tRump lost
2. His supporters are butt-hurt right now and I am loving it
3. There is no lawsuit he can bring that will change this
4. Not just the majority of the country, but the majority of the world is happier for it
5. Mueller Report sighted that a sitting President cannot be charged. He did this for a reason or do you think he was just putting it there for fun? tRump is no longer a sitting President in 2+ months. The statues of limitations is typically 7 years for most laws. He will then be eligible for charges. Like it or not
6. If you are a true "Law and Order" party, then you will not get in the way

Bonus P.S. Me, the country and the entire world can see that Joe Biden is getting old and starting to lose it. But that should show you something anout your boy tRump - we would rather have a half senile good man than a sane tRump




Why are you assuming I'm a Trump supporter around here? I have been extremely critical of Trump over 3 years now based on his proven track record. I don't need to  buy into conspiracy theories and false narratives from the MSM to show that Trump has been a failure on most key issues.

It's almost like the false narratives are perfect distractions from the key issues that affect all US citizens but are NEVER addressed for some strange reason. TDS is a propaganda tool to cloud clarity of thought and to hinder the ability to look outside the sham of our current 'democratic' political system. Why are you falling for it is the key question?


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Other than obstruction of justice lol


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There would have been allot less fake news if our whitehouse press secretaries would have told the truth at some point .
  You can't work , vote or support Trump and do that though can you ?




I fail to see the direct correlation of Trump and his Administration not telling the truth and the MSM also doing the same thing in many instances. Can't the MSM stop with the false narratives despite the fact that Trump was telling a bunch of lies?



There’s no comparison. Trump lies on an almost constant basis. The msm rarely lies. Unlike the president, journalists at reputable outlets face severe consequences for making up stories.


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I think the MSM gets it right way more than they get it wrong.




When it comes to reporting the basic news/established facts, you're absolutely correct.


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    #27030717 - 11/09/20 09:58 PM (23 days, 7 hours ago)

It's pretty sad when we can find more fake news from the NY Times than we can from rt.com.  :shrug:

For anyone who disagrees, I'm willing to restart the game we previously played where no one could find fake news on rt.com.


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Can't the MSM stop with the false narratives despite the fact that Trump was telling a bunch of lies?




     
        Are you kidding me ?
I don't give a flying fuck what the media does . They don't take money out my check .
    My taxes don't pay for everything they do . I can just not pay for it or look at it if I want .

 
    Comparing the media biased opinion talking head shows to The Whitehouse  lying constantly is one of the stupidest things I've ever read here .


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For anyone who disagrees, I'm willing to restart the game we previously played where no one could find fake news on rt.com.





  The kremlin controls the top 3 tv channels in Russia . That must irritate a guy who is upset about a few billionaires owning all of the news channels here .


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    #27030768 - 11/09/20 10:42 PM (23 days, 6 hours ago)

Don’t engage him. There’s nothing you can tell him that will change his mind.


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There would have been allot less fake news if our whitehouse press secretaries would have told the truth at some point .
  You can't work , vote or support Trump and do that though can you ?




I fail to see the direct correlation of Trump and his Administration not telling the truth and the MSM also doing the same thing in many instances. Can't the MSM stop with the false narratives despite the fact that Trump was telling a bunch of lies?



There’s no comparison. Trump lies on an almost constant basis. The msm rarely lies. Unlike the president, journalists at reputable outlets face severe consequences for making up stories.




Yet, they can speculate, spew out conspiracy theories and their opinions (as facts) with absolute impunity. BTW, I include FOX News in that group as well.


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Can't the MSM stop with the false narratives despite the fact that Trump was telling a bunch of lies?




     
        Are you kidding me ?
I don't give a flying fuck what the media does . They don't take money out my check .
    My taxes don't pay for everything they do . I can just not pay for it or look at it if I want .

 
    Comparing the media biased opinion talking head shows to The Whitehouse  lying constantly is one of the stupidest things I've ever read here .




You're the one that made the rationalization for the MSM, NOT me. I never made the comparison, you're the person that brought it up.


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There is NEVER going to be a acceptable news outlet for tRump supporters as the news tells the truth. Now that Fox News is trying to shred the truth of tRump's loss, they are the enemy.


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    #27030817 - 11/09/20 11:28 PM (23 days, 5 hours ago)

Setting side the obvious power dynamic in the United States and the fact that Trump knows enough about powerful people to never be held accountable, consider that the legitimacy of the US government would take a serious blow if it jailed one of its presidents. That’s what happens in the bad countries. They’ll never let it happen. People thought Obama was gonna launch an inquiry into Bush in 08, it was immediately shot down. Ford pardoned Nixon on any crimes he may or may not have committed. Could’ve fuckin murdered someone but eh.

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    #27030824 - 11/09/20 11:38 PM (23 days, 5 hours ago)

I think definitively proving to the public that he’s not a billionaire and up to his neck in debt to foreign lenders would be punishment enough. Though, his dumbfuck supporters would probably still worship him as a great businessman.


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  The kremlin controls the top 3 tv channels in Russia . That must irritate a guy who is upset about a few billionaires owning all of the news channels here .



Why would I care who owns it, if there's less fake news?  :shrug:


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The barriers to getting evidence are about to be greatly reduced.




That's using a very large assumption that there even is evidence in existence, correct?




Considering the people who've gone down covering for him so far, I'm going go out on a limb and say there is evidence. What they will do with a former President I don't know.


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There is NEVER going to be a acceptable news outlet for tRump supporters as the news tells the truth. Now that Fox News is trying to shred the truth of tRump's loss, they are the enemy.




"as the news tells the truth"

There was a time before TDS set in that people on the left were very apprehensive about the information that came out of the MSM. It appears that since Trump is highly critical of the MSM that people on the left have put away their critical thinking skills and now DEFEND the corporate media at all costs. Welcome to the bizarro world of TDS.
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The barriers to getting evidence are about to be greatly reduced.




That's using a very large assumption that there even is evidence in existence, correct?




Considering the people who've gone down covering for him so far, I'm going go out on a limb and say there is evidence. What they will do with a former President I don't know.




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There was some obvious campaign laws and tax laws that were broken by Trump. You cannot charge a sitting President with crimes - that's what Impeachment is, and he was. A true patriot of "Law and Order" should agree that IF Trump broke the law, then he should go to jail. If not, then how do you stop other people from do this?

That being said, do you think he will get to have Secret Service in jail?



Think about it logically he could be charged. Could. That would cause a political shitstorm Biden does not need. He could be charged sure but he won't


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I personally think that if they find laws have been broken, then they should charge him.

1. We do not have kings and queens here. Nobody should be above the law

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