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#27026321 - 11/07/20 08:35 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Welcome fellow Shroomerites to BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure. Feel free to give me tips and/or critique my process in anyway that is necessary for my success. I am here simply to learn. My goal is to become a highly efficient, dense af, canopy producer. With all of that said, lets move on to my process so far.
I brought 2 full quarts of oats to a boil. Turned off the heat and let steep for 30 minutes with lid on pot. I filled the water twice as high as the oats. After 30 minutes the oats had plumped up and met the water level. I strained over top of my bathtub with a window screen.
I left them overnight. I made sure the wife wasn't planning on using the shower for atleast 8 hours.  I want them evenly dry on the outside so I mixed the grain and spread it out a few times during this stage. I also picked out most of the busted grain. Lost grain was under 28 grams. Once I was satisfied with the moisture level of the grain I weighed the grain. 1080 grams of dry oats equals 1946 grams of hydrated oats at 44% hydration.
If my calculations are correct than my hydrated oats hold around 44% water by weight. I want to experiment with no prep oat master jars. If I use 78 grams of dry oats per pint and add 62 grams of water that will give me 140 grams of hydrated oats per pint.
I am only filling the jars half way because I want to slurry them after full colonization. My plan is to use one master to inoculate 7 quarts of oat supplemented bulk bags. If I were going to use them for g2g purposes I would use 200 grams of hydrated oats per pint master jar. I would use 112 grams of dry oats and 88 grams of water per pint jar.
A budy of mine was nice enough to give me some live cultures. I am so thankful. This is going to give me such a huge head start. I was given TWC, WG clone, ESS clone, APEU clone and a TYC clone. I made blended LI's with a half a plate from each of them. I used the other half of each plate to transfer to new plates.
TYC on the left and TWC on the right.
APEU LI syringe.
I wasn't satisfied with my agar recipe up to this point. It seemed too soft and not nutritious enough. The plates I received were pretty firm. So with these new plates I used 15 grams of agar powder instead of 10 that I was using per 500ml of water. I also used 10 grams of brf instead of the 5 grams that I was using. Hopefully this works out well. I do have some MEA and 4 more sleeves of plates on the way.
I made 14 oat master pint jars. Each jar contains 139 grams of hydrated oats. I am currently pc'ing the grain for 2.5 hours at 13.5 psi. I plan on inoculating 3 jars of each culture except I have to choose which culture only gets two jars. I would have made it even with 15 jars but I needed to sterilize my plastic ship lids for my LI's and sterilize a couple syringes. The specs on my 921 say it can hold 19 regular mouth pint mason jars. I'm not so sure about that. I may be able to fit 16 in it.
I guess the only question I have is how much LI would be appropriate for each oat jar?
I will continue to update this grow log as things progress. Hopefully by the end I will have dense af canopies like many of you great folks share with this community.
Edited by BrownBear (11/07/20 09:44 AM)
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#27026353 - 11/07/20 08:50 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Plates i use for LI are very firm so when its blended, its a jellylike substance that sticks to the grain when inoculated. This way when you shake, you can visibly see the pieces sticking to grain. I use pastys recipe but agar powder instead of the asian flaked agar. Its like double the amount of agar if its in poweder form. So i generally do 1 tablespoon of agar to pastys normal agar recipe instead of 2.
Damn i like that grain build, simple enough and can pack away easily! 
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: eatyualive]
#27026452 - 11/07/20 09:51 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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I put that grain build together on a whim. Works great for small batches of grain. When I do bulk bags I am simply going to strain the grain and then imediately add it to my coir mixture. So I don't need anything bigger.
How much LI would you recommend per pint jar of oats?
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27026543 - 11/07/20 10:40 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: SunnyDayze]
#27026562 - 11/07/20 10:53 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Good morning!
I feel your struggles. I was having a hell of a time trying to get something going with old spore prints and syringes. Indeed things should go better for you next time. Practice makes perfect and as long as you learn from your mistakes you will improve. I think the quote goes something like this. "The wise never knows all, only fools know everything."
How much LI should I use to inoculate each pt oat jar?
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27026679 - 11/07/20 11:49 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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haha sorry that other post was meant for the tribe is why i edited it.
I haven't ever done LI (only LC) but I would do a small squirt 2-3 ml for a pint would be my guess but Eat will let you know I'm sure.
I'm also thinking you can put 16 jars in if you put the last two on their side, middle top. I usually run my pc around 17-18, 2.5 hours for quarts.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: SunnyDayze]
#27026710 - 11/07/20 12:07 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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No worries. I noticed you had edited the post and copy and pasted it in the tribe thread after I responded. I just read eats LI tek and he uses 1cc per quart so I guess I should probably use less than that. I cannot get my pc to stay at 15 psi without letting the weight rock and hiss like crazy. Do you think I should incease my pc time or find a way to get the pressure up higher?
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27026738 - 11/07/20 12:24 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've always used AA's with the petcock so never had that issue but heard that you can put a bit of extra weight on it to make it better.
I believe that you will be fine with your pressure and time though for the pints. Quarts push it up to 3 to 3.5 hours.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: SunnyDayze]
#27026748 - 11/07/20 12:32 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Is a petcock an accessory that I can buy and install on my 921? I don't plan on going to quart jars but I do plan on using the grain slurry to inoculate oat supplemented bulk substrate bags. Would 3.5 hours be okay for those or should I increase to 4+ hours? If thats the case I may want to look into one of those petcocks.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27026762 - 11/07/20 12:39 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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oh right! you did say it was a 921. yes you can order one. I've always gotten my replacement parts at redhillgeneralstore.com. They are great to deal with.
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Forgot they no longer manufacture the petcock for the AA's. I know I found one somewhere else but having a hell of a time trying to find it again.
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#27027104 - 11/07/20 03:57 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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I inoculated all 14 grain master jars today. After a 2.5 hour pc run at 13.5 psi I let the pc cool enough to carry it down stairs into my basement and into the clean room without pot holders. I turned the flowhood on and let it run for about 15 minutes. Then I opened the pc and placed jars in front of the hood to finish cooling. They weren't hot but they were a little warm.
I then took the jars and placed them out of the way to make room to make a LI syringe for each of the 5 cultures I am working with. I first made the LI syringe then noc'd up the three grain jars before moving onto the next culture.
I wiped everything from top to bottom with 71% iso before putting it in front of the hood. I also flamed sterilized the entire 3" needle before every inoculation (finishing the flame sterilization at the tip until it was red hot). I also iso'd my gloves before every step in front of the hood.
I ended up using about 3 cc's per jar. I figured I would just split the syringe three ways. After a good shake none of the jars are showing any excess moisture on the bottom nor on the grain. There does appear to be moisture on the upper part of the mason jar. I'm sure that will dissipate over the next couple of days though.
  
I just want to let you all know before you take notice. You can critique anything and everything except my excessive use of parafilm.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27027836 - 11/08/20 01:02 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Definitely no critiquing here but I am wondering about the parafilm. Do you have any GE holes in your lids? Why did you use parafilm around the jars?
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: SunnyDayze]
#27027997 - 11/08/20 06:12 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wrap the entire lid on my LC's and LI's after tightening down the lid. I cover the ship after every use. I don't trust ships to heal properly. I also do not like the way the syringe filter screws on with no gasket in between it and the lid. The parafilm prevents any potential leaking of liquids.
I also use the parafilm on the grain jars. Those are unmodified metal lids in which I flip the lid as to not allow it to seal to the jar during sterilization. After inoculation I do not completely tighten the lid. I close it until there is a slight resistance. Then I wrap the entire lid with parafilm. The parafilm allows safe gas exchange on the grain jars.
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#27028500 - 11/08/20 12:09 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice, thanks for explaining  . Haven’t seen that before but there’s lots I haven’t seen lol
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#27028597 - 11/08/20 01:17 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea. No problem. I have a habit of picking up my jars where the lid meets the jar. Probably not a good idea with unmodified lids. The parafilm should close that contam vector though. I also used to have problems with plastic lc jar lids leaking. Not anymore.
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#27030512 - 11/09/20 04:52 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Update:
I have some really nice TYC T4 clones on agar. These were transfered 4 days ago. I used 10 grams of brf and 15 grams of agar powder per 500 ml of filtered water. I think I may have finally got something right. What do you all think?
  
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27030536 - 11/09/20 05:24 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think your pressure cooker needs to run at 15 PSI.
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You're right. But I don't want to try anything dangerous. So I may have to just increase my sterilaztion time. Do you think I could be not adding enough water? That is the only thing that I can think of as to why the pressure won't get up that high.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27030651 - 11/09/20 07:06 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
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No worries. I noticed you had edited the post and copy and pasted it in the tribe thread after I responded. I just read eats LI tek and he uses 1cc per quart so I guess I should probably use less than that. I cannot get my pc to stay at 15 psi without letting the weight rock and hiss like crazy. Do you think I should incease my pc time or find a way to get the pressure up higher?
tape a couple quarters to the weight rocker. I have mine dialed in so that it starts just slightly hissing at 15 psi.
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#27030677 - 11/09/20 07:20 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks, munch. I'll give it a try.
It worked like a charm. Thanks again. 
 
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#27039343 - 11/14/20 07:00 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Should I be concerned about the fluffy growth at 6 o'clock? Should I make another transfer?
The brf cake on the left is APEU and the one on the right is ESS.
 
The grain jars that I inoculated are slow to recover. Its been 7 days and I have maybe half the jars showing recovery and growth while the other jars are showing no growth at all.
Edited by BrownBear (11/14/20 07:02 PM)
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#27040921 - 11/15/20 04:53 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ess can be a little tricky. You may have to give it more fae than other tubs.
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#27044186 - 11/17/20 04:27 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks for the tip, eat.
None of the oat jars are showing any signs of contamination. This is the best jar I have so far. The others are showing little to no growth at all.
I also made some rice cakes. I inoculated some of these with lc and others with agar cultures.
This is a culture on nutritional yeast agar. Recipe is 500 ml water, 15 grams of agar powder and 10 grams NY.
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#27047664 - 11/19/20 04:36 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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So I went a head and tried my no prep oat tek. I used 112 grams of dry whole oats and 90 grams of water per pint jar.
Jars just after adding oats and water.
I gave them all a good shake after putting the lids on. I pc'd them at 15 psi for 90 minutes. I let them cool for a day in my lab. I then turned on my flowhood and let it run for a few minutes before opening the pc.
Jars right out of the pc.
The jars after a good shake.
 
Next round I might add just a little less water. What do you all think?
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Quote:
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I think your pressure cooker needs to run at 15 PSI.
With cookers that use a rocker to maintain pressure it is more likely that the gauge is incorrect than the rocker has lost weight.
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#27052700 - 11/22/20 06:01 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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I shook this rice jar 2 days ago. Its just about ready. Probably be ready by tomorrow night at the rate it has been going just from my observation today. I have eleven others right behind it.
 
I have 6 sterilized oat pint jars that I have waiting to be g2g'd with this rice jar.
I sterilized 24 qts of oats today. I loaded them 3 qts per bag. I have 2 pint lc's that should be fully colonized in another day or so. I will inoculate the eight bags with one of those lc's.
I think I made a mistake with my first lc to oat jars. I did not shake after inoculation and the lc was too much liquid and not enough culture. It took a good 12 to 13 days for most of the jars to come around. I shook the few of them that were the best of them 2 days ago. Imo, this one and the other few are recovering rather nicely. How does this oat jar look to you? If this one looks healthy than I would like to use it for g2g after full colonization. At this rate of recovery, I'm thinking another 2 days to fully colonize.
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#27054242 - 11/23/20 04:35 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Out of the 8 pre sealed bags of grain that I sterilized yesterday only one popped during the 3 hour run at 15 psi. It popped because it was the only one that I did not roll very tight. There was some air left in it after sealing. I might try my vacuum sealer next time and see how that works.
These are my dozen 1/4 pint rice jars. One is fully colonized and the rest are not too far behind the first jar I am going to g2g to 6 pints of oats. The rest of them I was thinking g2g to 3 qt grain bags with one per bag.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27055815 - 11/24/20 04:34 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have lost all but 2 of my dozen ziploc rice containers. It was most likely a combination of over hydration and poor technique. They all suffered from bacteria contamination.
The two that are healthy look like this.
This is the second 1/4 pint to fully colonize.
I really like these quarter pint jars of rice. I inoculated 6 pints of oats with the first 1/4 pint to fully colonize. Less than 24 hours later they are showing great recovery speed.
My next step with these 1/4 pint rice jars is to make thick, muddy slurry with them and use them to inoculate grain bags.
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#27058717 - 11/26/20 12:39 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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#27061280 - 11/28/20 08:48 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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I made surry with 100 ml of water and one 1/4 pint of rice spawn. I used 1 slurry per two 3qt bags of oats. Less than 24 hours after inoculation and I am seeing good recovery.
 
I wasn't exactly satisfied with the consistency of the slurry as I wanted it to be a little more thick than it turned out. So the next batch I went with 60 ml of water per one 1/4 pint of rice spawn rather than the 100 ml of water I used the first batch. I am really satisfied with the 60 ml slurry. There is no excess water and the consistency is that of loose oatmeal.
This morning I decided to use 1 slurry per 3qt bag of oats.
 
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27061305 - 11/28/20 09:09 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey, sorry I missed this thread BB. Glad to be tagging along now though. I tried the ziplock containers and the lids didn’t want to thread on well after a pc run. Even had one pop off when I picked it up. Decided not to use them again.
I got one them adjustable window screens and it fits perfectly over the kitchen sink. Fairly cheap too though 10 jars worth you wont be able to spread out 1 grain thick. Just requires a few stirs to dry em all
https://www.homedepot.com/p/W-B-Marvin-21-37-in-W-x-18-in-H-Clear-Wood-Frame-Adjustable-Window-Screen-AWS1837/202088352
I need to try my hand at bags, do you use the standard amount of water?
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When I switched to the bags I changed my grain prep. I add my oats to a large stock pot. Fill until the water is 2 inches above the grain line. Bring the water to a boil (stirring occasionally). Turn off heat. Put lid on pot and let it sit for 20 minutes or so. When oats meet the water line. I dump them out on a screen. After water stops dripping, I spread the oats out and leave them until they cool. I don't even let them completely dry. If you test the oats though they are just slightly under cooked. I then load bags, weigh them and then adjust to make them all even. I use 1 1/2 qts of dry oats per bag.
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Hey, sorry I missed this thread BB. Glad to be tagging along now though. I tried the ziplock containers and the lids didn’t want to thread on well after a pc run. Even had one pop off when I picked it up. Decided not to use them again.
I got one them adjustable window screens and it fits perfectly over the kitchen sink. Fairly cheap too though 10 jars worth you wont be able to spread out 1 grain thick. Just requires a few stirs to dry em all
https://www.homedepot.com/p/W-B-Marvin-21-37-in-W-x-18-in-H-Clear-Wood-Frame-Adjustable-Window-Screen-AWS1837/202088352
I need to try my hand at bags, do you use the standard amount of water?
Hi, D3monic. Thanks for joining my grow log.
When you ran the ziploc containers through the pc, did you put the lids on a bit loose and wrap the entire thing in aluminum foil? Thats what I do and I have yet to observe any warping.
Kitchen screens work really well for laying out grain. I used to own one of those adjustable window screens. They work well also.
I have never been a fan of using quart jars. They sometimes end up cracking on the bottom. However, I would need too many pint jars for what I want to accomplish. Bags just seem right. Plus storing bags take up a lot less space than storing jars. They also make biodegradable bags. I can shoot you a  of where I get them from, if you like?
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27062200 - 11/28/20 09:31 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have a 50 pack I ordered I haven’t tried yet. Been meaning to give them a go. Just switched to millet, any different prep there?
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#27062405 - 11/29/20 03:35 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've recently tried to source millet locally but haven't had any luck. Its been so long since I have prepped millet that I honestly do not have a preferred prep for it. From what I remember is that it is a lot like rice in that it is not very forgiving and can turn to shit rather easily.
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#27064914 - 11/30/20 03:52 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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I will be making 12 transfers tonight from these 3 plates. I dyed my agar for the first time. I have seen a plethora of colored plates on the boards. They make looking at the mycelium so much more interesting. I can also understand its function as well as its appeal.
  
This is one of the bags that I inoculated with a 1/4 pint rice slurry 2 days ago. Recovery is real nice. The slurry significantly increases the points of inoculation. This has me really excited.
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#27066803 - 12/01/20 05:18 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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The lc recovers so nicely on the rice. I saw recovery in under 24 hours. This pic is day two. I have also observed recovery in 24 hours with the rice slurry.
These bags are one in the same. First pic was taken yesterday. The second pic is 24 hours later. These bags are 3 days old today.
These are the eight 3qt grain bags inoculated the same way on the same day.
Day 4 of the rice slurry to oats bag.
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This is a TOC t3 from germination. I plan on putting this in a lc. I poured 40 plates last night. I have a bunch of transfers that I need to make tomorrow from various cultures.
The slurry oat bags should all, but one, finish up in the next 24 hours. 6 day's to full colonization is pretty good, isn't it? The slower bag is probably about 2-3 days behind the rest. One bag I had to get rid of though. I saw the tiniest spec of green on an oat kernel. Sucks but was most likely caused by poor inoculation technique and/or just the fact that I cannot seal the bags directly in front of the flowhood.
I spawned 6 cups of rice spawn to 12 cups of coir 5 days ago. I topped it with 4 cups of coir at spawning. Is it common for a tub spawned 1:2 ratio to fully colonize in 5 days? It has even colonized around 20% of the top layer of coir.
 
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27070740 - 12/03/20 09:05 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nice, you will find shaking that slurry and covering every single grain will help your time decrease. Just takes a little practice.
6 is damn good but you can get 3-4 days. Just a simple getting used to how it works. And i prefer my slurries on the muddy side so it sticks to all the grain. I dont remember if you made a slightly more liquid mix. If so, use a little less water for more of a sludge kinda consistency.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: eatyualive]
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I’m excited for you dude! Can’t wait to see the fruits of your labor, I’m just getting started with agar myself! Good luck!!!
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Eat, I'll try mixing it more next time and see if I can get it to finish faster. My slurry was more on the muddy side. I used 60 ml of water for a 1/4 pint of spawn. I could try using less water, if you think it will help.
Shroomoisseur, thanks. I'm excited myself. Its been a few years since I have harvested my own mushies. Good luck on your endeavors also. Agar is definitely the right place to start.
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I took eatyualive's advice and made the slurry a little more muddy this time. I used 45 ml of water per 1/4 pint of rice spawn. It ended up just a little thicker than pancake batter.
 
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27075726 - 12/06/20 05:09 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Looks cool
I've done brf slurry a few times but never had success spawning those.
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Were you spawning the slurry straight to bulk?
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27075763 - 12/06/20 05:33 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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No I was inoculating rye jars, they colonized in 3-5 days after after spawning them they all turned to shit pretty fast. IIRC I haven't really seen anyone have success with slurry. It's a bit complicated process and allows too many vectors when trying to mix the cakes.
How did you go about with rice? I really like the look of it 
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: Mateja]
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I microwave a 3 lb. bag of whole grain rice for 30 minutes but in 10 minute increments. I fill the bowl 2x the level of rice with water. I stir it after every 10 minute cook and usually have to add a little more water before the final 10 minutes in the microwave. After the final 10 minutes I leave it in the microwave for another 15 minutes. Then I strain and load up 30x 1/4 pint jars. I pc 90 minutes at 15 psi.
I inoculate each jar with 3 cc's of lc. I inoculate each jar a drop at a time until the entire top surface has been saturated with lc including letting it drip around the sides of the jar. (I was thinking about making a video of the process). The jars typically colonize in about 7 days.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
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Interesting. I can't get my 1/2 pints to colonize faster than 3-4 weeks even with 10ml of LC each 
Looking forward to seeing your results with this. Are you noccing grain with this or will try spawning directly to coir?
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27075806 - 12/06/20 05:51 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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As far as the slurry. I just flip the rice jar upside down and tap the lid against my palm. I don't break up the rice at all. I take the lid off the rice jar and then I lift the blender jar with stetilized water and flip the rice jar over top of the blender jar and the rice cake slides right out and into the blender jar. I screw the lid back on tight and wrap the lid and top of jar with parafilm before blending it. I have had no problem with any leaking at all so far.
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Interesting. I can't get my 1/2 pints to colonize faster than 3-4 weeks even with 10ml of LC each
Looking forward to seeing your results with this. Are you noccing grain with this or will try spawning directly to coir?
I use 1x 1/4 pint to inoculate each 3 quart grain bag. They all colonized in 7 days or less. Eatyualive said I can get them to colonize in 3-4 days if I get the consistency of the slurry right and mix it well.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27080731 - 12/09/20 03:55 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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15 qt APEU tub. 1:2 ratio with 1 qt coir top layer at casing.
3 qt APEU spawn bag. I used popcorn and rice this time. It was inoculated 3 days ago with a 1/4 pint rice slurry that I posted about on 12/6.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
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15 qt APEU tub. 1:2 ratio with 1 qt coir top layer at casing.
3 qt APEU spawn bag. I used popcorn and rice this time. It was inoculated 3 days ago with a 1/4 pint rice slurry that I posted about on 12/6.
looks great man, 3 days on that bag sounds really nice
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: DrunkUncle]
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Thanks, DrunkUncle. Yea. That slurry is something else.
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Thanks, DrunkUncle. Yea. That slurry is something else.
I just tried LI last night for the first time, munch's blenderless tek. I'm guessing you used a blender to get that consistency? I definitely like the idea of the thicker liquid.
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I was doing Tai chi while flying through space, took a shit in my shower, removed my face several times with my hands and that was all just the boring part before it really hit me.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: DrunkUncle] 1
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Yes. I get that consistency with a blender.
I use 3 cc's of lc in which I inoculate a 1/4 pint of rice drop by drop until I saturate the entire top surface and around the sides of the jar. I get jars to colonize in 9 days or less. Sometimes they'll finish in 6 days.
I then sterilize water in modified 2 peice metal lids like seen in eatyualive's tek.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10648149
To get the consistency of my most recent slurry I used 45 ml of water per 1/4 pint of rice. I then use a 1/4 pint of slurry to inoculate each 3 qt grain bag. I blend for a solid 30 seconds
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
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Yes. I get that consistency with a blender.
I use 3 cc's of lc in which I inoculate a 1/4 pint of rice drop by drop until I saturate the entire top surface and around the sides of the jar. I get jars to colonize in 9 days or less. Sometimes they'll finish in 6 days.
I then sterilize water in modified 2 peice metal lids like seen in eatyualive's tek.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10648149
thanks for the detailed response. Eat's LI tek is how I became interested in LI in the first place and since i don't have a blender atm, Munch's tek was put in place. look forward to seeing how this grow pans out!
To get the consistency of my most recent slurry I used 45 ml of water per 1/4 pint of rice. I then use a 1/4 pint of slurry to inoculate each 3 qt grain bag. I blend for a solid 30 seconds
thanks for the detailed response. Found out about LI thru Eat's teks and since a blender isn't an option right now went with the blenderless tek. Stoked to see how this goes for ya!
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: DrunkUncle]
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This is a APEU tub that I spawned 5 days ago. I have 9 of these tubs. They were spawned at a 1:2 ratio using oats that were inoculated with slurry. I think I am starting to see a little bit of knotting already.
  
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Looks great dude, stoked to see some fruits!
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I was doing Tai chi while flying through space, took a shit in my shower, removed my face several times with my hands and that was all just the boring part before it really hit me.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: DrunkUncle] 1
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You and me both, uncle. Its been almost 3 years since I have grown my own. Cannot find them around here anymore and its me and my wife's thing we like to experience together.
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You and me both, uncle. Its been almost 3 years since I have grown my own. Cannot find them around here anymore and its me and my wife's thing we like to experience together.
radical man it had been about that amount of time since i grew any, til a few months ago pulled some fruits out of a nice bacterial tub (lol) good on ya!
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: DrunkUncle]
#27085739 - 12/12/20 01:15 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not much to report on but this APEU has ripped through the top layer of coir. I hope I see some pins soon. I have 6 tubs that are 7 days from spawning and 3 tubs that are 6 days from spawning. I spawned 4 more tubs last night and another 3 today.
I am in the middle of cooking 6 more grain bags today. I really like what I have seen so far from my popcorn/rice bags. I am trying out both oats and popcorn/rice. I guess the winner will come down to which one produces better. All have been grown from the same APEU clone lc and spawned the exact same way.
My plan is to run a few different variety in 2 tubs a week per week. So a total of 6 tubs a week. So far my best colonizers have been the APEU clone that I received from a friend and a 4 year old spore print culture of TOC that I started on agar a month or so ago. I have like 4 or 5 other varieties that I am trying to run also just to retain the genetics with spore prints for future use and to give away.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear] 1
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Be patient. They are 19 days spawn to harvest for me.
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Its only been like 7 days. I guess I better be patient. lol
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
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So its been 11 days since spawning my APEU tubs. I have a couple tubs starting to show premordia forming. No pins yet but I think I'm getting close.
I way over did it with the APEU in these 1/4 pint rice jars. I have no idea what possessed me to inoculate over 3 dozen of them but I did it. I pondered for a few days what I was going to do with them. I decided to fill the jars with a hydrated coir casing. I managed to fill a 54 qt tub that I had laying around and a 15 qt hefty tub.
 
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So its been 11 days since spawning my APEU tubs. I have a couple tubs starting to show premordia forming. No pins yet but I think I'm getting close.
I way over did it with the APEU in these 1/4 pint rice jars. I have no idea what possessed me to inoculate over 3 dozen of them but I did it. I pondered for a few days what I was going to do with them. I decided to fill the jars with a hydrated coir casing. I managed to fill a 54 qt tub that I had laying around and a 15 qt hefty tub.
might as well do 6 or 7 more monos! 
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27094493 - 12/17/20 04:12 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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One of the best feeling stages in cultivating, those first pins. Good lookin tub man. Hope there's more where that came from
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Thanks, Lemgrub.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: eatyualive]
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Check out this pinset.
All other tubs were 3 qt spawn to 6 qt substrate with 1 qt coir top layer. They are all coming along nicely just a little more slowly.
This tub was spawned with 1 1/2 qts spawn to 3 qt substrate with 1 qt coir top layer. I'm guessing it just colonized faster and began to pin sooner because the substrate depth is thinner?
I have a couple tubs growing these thick spike like formations. I know its nothing but really cool looking.
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Check out this pinset.
All other tubs were 3 qt spawn to 6 qt substrate with 1 qt coir top layer. They are all coming along nicely just a little more slowly.
This tub was spawned with 1 1/2 qts spawn to 3 qt substrate with 1 qt coir top layer. I'm guessing it just colonized faster and began to pin sooner because the substrate depth is thinner?
I have a couple tubs growing these thick spike like formations. I know its nothing but really cool looking.
looks great man, that second photo looks like some tiny coral mushrooms or something, i love when the myc looks like that. almost like shards of crystal
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Thanks. Yea. They do look like immature coral mushrooms or something.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27097626 - 12/19/20 12:03 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Max fae on those ess.
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I have a fan that pulls in fresh air for three minutes every hour. I cannot increase the frequency of the on cycles but I can increase the duration that the fan is running. Should I increase it?
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
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I’m waiting for mine to pin too. Feels like an eternity
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Yes increase it
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: ChRnZN]
#27098884 - 12/20/20 07:49 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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So I unintentially lied. Haha. This tub was not supposed to be APEU. It is actually TYC. These tubs are labled. I just didn't bother to look at the label before posting.
All of the other tubs were labeled APEU but now I know are ESS. They are all pinning nicely now also. The thick spikes on that one and only tub have matted down a bit and pins are beginning to pop up in all corners of the surface and some in the middle. Just like the TYC tub was doing a few days ago.
So far I haven't seen any signs that would indicate a lack of fae. I am going to let this one ride out until I see signs that say otherwise. After the first round of harvests I will tweak the parameters a bit. Increase the humidity threshhold and increase the duration that the fae blower fan runs and see if it makes any difference. I'm sure with a little experimenting I can really dial my tent in.
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Nice on reviving ESS, I tried but couldn’t get the F3 spores to germ.
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Honestly, I cannot take any of the credit as it was a friend who gave me a live culture. Its really awesome that I am growing a cross that muda created though. He was a good dude and really had his own style and niche in the hobby.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27101134 - 12/21/20 03:41 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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First harvest in 3 years. First flush wasn't impressive by any stretch of the imagination. But it can only get better from here.
  
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27101174 - 12/21/20 04:11 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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hey man some nice looking fruits! Enjoy them!
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27101605 - 12/21/20 08:08 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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First harvest in 3 years. First flush wasn't impressive by any stretch of the imagination. But it can only get better from here.
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First harvest in 3 years. First flush wasn't impressive by any stretch of the imagination. But it can only get better from here.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: Shu]
#27104249 - 12/23/20 01:37 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here are some shots of the next couple sets of tubs.
 
 
So between the advice that a few respected cultivators here have suggested. I increased the duration of the intake fan runs. I also opened up some passive ventilation up top of the tent. I also increased the threshold of the rh from 88 on/92 off to 92 on/95 off. I have been monitoring it for the past 2 days.
While monitoring the tent conditions I decided to also monitor surface conditions. I have learned that things are more saturated the lower the height in the tent. With the tubs on the top shelf having surface conditions showing no visible beads of water. The bottom shelf is a little damp on the top coir layer of the new tubs I just put in there a few days ago. The middle shelves seem to be a real happy medium.
Thinking about what I have observed, I think it maybe a good idea to rotate the tubs. Starting with colonizing tubs on the bottom shelf and as I harvest every week I can rotate tubs in and out moving the older tubs up a shelf. Does this plan sound solid?
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27104447 - 12/23/20 04:04 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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 Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: filthyknees]
#27104493 - 12/23/20 04:38 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thinking about what I have observed, I think it maybe a good idea to rotate the tubs. Starting with a colonizing tub on the bottom shelf and as I harvest every week I can rotate tubs in and out moving the older tubs up a shelf. Does this plan sound solid?
Rotating them through the goldilocks zone sounds like a good plan to me!
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: Shu] 1
#27106003 - 12/24/20 02:56 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Merry Christmas, mush cult.
 
 
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27106167 - 12/24/20 04:35 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Merry Christmas, mush cult.
some fat bois! nice man happy christmas back at ya
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: DrunkUncle]
#27106201 - 12/24/20 04:54 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I like the look of the dark caps. I’ve grown PE variants and RustyWhyte for years now, miss me some dark caps.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27106225 - 12/24/20 05:07 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Are those ESS? Quickly skimmed the thread a bit and didn't find anything. Very cool mushrooms
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: Josex]
#27106239 - 12/24/20 05:18 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Are those ESS? Quickly skimmed the thread a bit and didn't find anything. Very cool mushrooms
Yea he mentioned on the cult pic of day thread they where ess. Really neat looking caps
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: D3_Myc]
#27106265 - 12/24/20 05:43 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Those dark ones look like ess. They usually have dark red caps. Looks like you got some monsters in there.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27106323 - 12/24/20 06:26 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: EarthwormJim] 1
#27106443 - 12/24/20 07:55 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Throwing this in here for reference on when to harvest.
The gills turn kinda grey blue. And they wont be as firm more smooshy. You can tell they slightly change darker color on the caps. Id swab for reproduction. Some of them will open. Remind me of jellyfish or octopus. Less fae required than pe and pbr. But i do get a decent amount of aborts. They also dry dark blue/ black. I was tempted to run these consistently but i tried for a few months with mixed results.
     
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: eatyualive]
#27106450 - 12/24/20 08:02 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Those are dope as fuck, I bet they're hella potent too. I have some yeti that I think is a cross of APE and ESS (Pretty sure D3monic knows), but are some slow boring shit. I wonder if those ESS are well stabilized, know very litle about them.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: Josex]
#27106492 - 12/24/20 08:29 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeti are a “stabilized” mutant from true albino teachers. I use quotes cause there’s still a decent amount of variation floating around but most look pretty similar. They where cool but not the biggest producer though went on flush after flush. I’ll probably run a small tub or two again just to renew my swab supply but that’s about it. Really beautiful myc on it though if that’s your thing.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: D3_Myc]
#27106502 - 12/24/20 08:36 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ess id say is mid level stable. It can give me trouble from time to time. But ive seen other people have great success. I believe comebackkid did really well.
As far as that tyc, mine are usually large fruit lid hitters.
Im thinking environment. Im using no fan passive fae in ez dial tubs.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: eatyualive]
#27106520 - 12/24/20 08:54 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cool. Thanks for the reference, eat. Looks like my ess tubs still have some stretching to do. I'm determined to get the conditions right. I'm sure that is the key to getting those dense canopies.
If anyone wants swabs just Shoot me a I have to order some sterile swabs in a couple days but as soon as I receive them, I will make them up and send them out.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27106523 - 12/24/20 08:56 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Im definitely eager to see the ess in an automated setup! I think you will have bigger fruit and less aborts.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: eatyualive]
#27108548 - 12/26/20 09:47 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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These ess remind me a lot of the ksss flying saucers in the way that they initially grow and the clusters that they form.
When I grew ksss fs they would grow as much horizontally as they would vertically. So when they formed dense clusters the late bloomers would stall until the early bloomers were picked and more horizontal space was made for them to finish growing. Most of the time I would have to pick the first flush over a few days rather than all at once. I wonder if the ess will be the same or atleast similar.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear] 1
#27112598 - 12/28/20 03:44 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pinsets are getting better. I think this one could have been even better but I fell into a problem over the weekend. I ended up having to close up one of the exhaust vents because I could not maintain a good humidity level. For a few days after making my initial changes things were going well. Then all of the sudden something changed. Yesterday I finally decided to close up one of the vents and today things look good again.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear] 1
#27121581 - 01/02/21 06:22 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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New pinsets coming in.
  
This is my first wall to wall flush.
Today I am putting WG, "APEU" and TOC to grain. I still have a few others that I need to cycle in. I haven't even put TWC to lc yet. I had 1 plate pin and I was late to prep the lc and it sporelated. I have 4 other plates but they have been teasing me with lots of hyphal knotting but no pins.
I may just make more tranfers and then go to lc and forget about the invitro pin at this point. I have seen excellent results from inoculating lc's with invitro pins though. It seems like it could be the way to go to slow down the process and cut back on the 1 time use petri dishes.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27121670 - 01/02/21 08:03 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Love the gif! Beautiful ESS brownbear
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: Melliferous]
#27126756 - 01/04/21 05:54 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cool tent setup and results! I came here from the links in your sig and I'll for sure refer to this thread when I make my own grow tent. Post-prohibition we have so many products available to use that some older greenhouses / marthas arent designed around.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: cutie]
#27126854 - 01/04/21 06:38 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks, cutie. Yes. There are a lot of options these days when it comes to greenhouses/ humidity tents. I really just had a bunch of stuff left over after I decided to quit growing cannabis. I use a 4' x 8' grow tent as my lab/clean room. I use a 2' x 4' tent for spawn and a 5' x 5' for fruiting. I plan on building another fruiting tent for gourmet's. If space permits, I might use a 4' x 8' for gourmet. If not, I know another 5' x 5' will fit in the available space.
Anyway, feel free to post and ask questions in either thread. I will be glad to help you out in anyway I can.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27130991 - 01/06/21 04:47 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks, Melliferous.
I have been waiting patiently for a pin clone to pop up on one of my TWC plates. I gave it another day or two after I first seen it. Tonight I dropped it into a lc. My whytegold pin clones have done well in a lc and can't wait to get them on grain this weekend.
Someone in another thread said that deformed mushrooms might be from bacteria. My colonization rate and yields have been fine. Envy ss are a cross between pe and ksss. Aren't both varieties prone to blobbing and/or mutations?
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27131023 - 01/06/21 04:54 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Aren't both varieties prone to blobbing and/or mutations?
Yes, I can confirm that both exhibit bizarre growth characteristics. Frankly, I disagree with starbones on the bacteria being the cause here, but 
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: Melliferous]
#27135628 - 01/08/21 04:05 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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The envy ss have crazy growinf fruits. Always has.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: eatyualive]
#27135639 - 01/08/21 04:08 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looking good bb! Really got the tent dialed in now. I need get things dialed better in my grows. My room is pretty sealed off with not ventilation and I think that affects my yields. Maybe some filtered air exchange. It’s a cold basement and can’t have too much exchange as the space heater already running too much.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: D3_Myc]
#27135672 - 01/08/21 04:18 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would suggest buying a grow tent or frame a small room in your basement.
Honestly, I could have just used my tent and stacked 66 qt tubs in it and just used the same forced intake/ passive exhaust. The tubs will generate heat and humidity and I wouldn't need the ultrasonic mist maker with that type of setup.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27135708 - 01/08/21 04:28 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have a room framed off it’s like 16x20. The heater keeps it around 73 just the rest the basement cold. Nice in the summer not so much winter
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: D3_Myc]
#27135738 - 01/08/21 04:37 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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You can order a 4x8 tent for a few hundred dollars online. That would give you plenty of space to put your tubs. The 4x8 would fit in your 16x20 room and would be easier to dial in than the 16x20 room.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27143519 - 01/12/21 10:25 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I set out on this grow log to grow dense af canopies. I feel like I have accomplished that. I also feel like I still have a lot to learn. I could be wrong and should just wait for the dry weight results. But at this point it is looking as though I will yield less from these last 6 tubs than some of the other sets of tubs that had less dense canopies but bigger, fleshier mushrooms. Anyone have a similar experience?
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear] 1
#27145087 - 01/13/21 05:40 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I decided to test one of my ess swabs. I used the zigzag technique to inoculate these on the 3rd. They took about 5 days to show signs of growth.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27145090 - 01/13/21 05:42 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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And beautiful growth at that. Gotta love when a germ plate looks so sexy from the getgo.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: Josex]
#27145100 - 01/13/21 05:47 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hell yea. I was thinking the same thing. 
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27158358 - 01/19/21 09:09 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nice job! How are you liking the ess?
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: eatyualive]
#27158377 - 01/19/21 09:22 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I haven't tried them yet so no report on potency. As far as yield though, I am averaging 1.3 oz per qt of spawn. I also love when picking them they don't take alot of substrate with them.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27158497 - 01/19/21 10:59 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I decided to test one of my ess swabs. I used the zigzag technique to inoculate these on the 3rd. They took about 5 days to show signs of growth.
What determines if a spore will go crazy like that or have slower growth?
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: Benson]
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That is actually the result from making a zigzag pattern with a spore swab. Genetics and other factors such as nutrient to water ratio, how solid the agar is and ambient temperature can all play a role in the growth rate of the mycelium. The idea is to get fast uniform growth on agar before moving on to grain.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27233225 - 03/02/21 07:01 AM (2 years, 25 days ago) |
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Awesome work! On your microwave, do you know the wattage? The microwave I’d be using is 1300 so I might have to adjust power or time settings. I’m digging the rice slurry and want to give it a shot when I get the chance.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: Tankie_J]
#27233650 - 03/02/21 01:01 PM (2 years, 25 days ago) |
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The rated output for my microwave is 1100 watts.
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: BrownBear]
#27234628 - 03/03/21 04:26 AM (2 years, 24 days ago) |
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Nice job Brown Bear!
I decided to read through this thread this morning and it is a really great example of start to finish good Cultivation. Lots of good questions and answers and it is very detailed. Great Job. 
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Re: BrownBear's Grow Log Adventure [Re: Sockadin]
#27236043 - 03/03/21 09:22 PM (2 years, 23 days ago) |
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Thank you.
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