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Re: Trump Lost. [Re: relic]
    #27028528 - 11/08/20 01:31 PM (16 days, 18 hours ago)

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Spin?  Can you give an example?



An example of spin is in the two quotes in this post, one by you and the other by Enlil, posted about Enlil's viewpoints about three issues.

He frames it one way, you spin it a different--much more negative/nefarious--way, and the world keeps turning.



That's not specific enough for me to respond to, but read on.

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A second, quick example is the way you've characterized Donald's lawsuit. Although anecdotal, all but one person I've spoken to realises that donnie only cares about winning, not transparency. That viewpoint has been formed by 30+ years of donald's spoken and written words. His books, speeches, and interviews reinforce, and make obvious to many (most?), this viewpoint and it has zero to do with dishonest attacking or any made-up syndrome.

Yet, in his defense, you unsurprisingly spin it as a desire for transparency while neglecting the preponderance of evidence which has come straight from donnie's mouth, pen, and fingers for decades.

You can have the last word in your rebuttal to this post; I'll not argue it further with you if I can help myself. No matter how unbecoming I find your martyr complex, unending ego-driven propositions of bets, and near constant spinning of arguments,  I don't find anything redeeming or positive about beating on you/your arguments and I wish you well.



Of course he wants to win, I don't deny that.  But he's trying to do it legally, and his lawsuits are to ensure the law is followed and there's adequate transparency.  No one's shown this to be incorrect yet.

Again, I don't know who got more votes, but I'm ok with more election transparency.  I think our election system sucks.


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Re: Trump Lost. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #27028593 - 11/08/20 02:15 PM (16 days, 17 hours ago)

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:Once again, Trump sued to ensure the law was followed.



I would have then added "without any evidence"?... like it said in the article you linked too
Most people turn up at court with evidence, it's a legal thing.


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Re: Trump Lost. [Re: Stable Genius]
    #27028604 - 11/08/20 02:19 PM (16 days, 17 hours ago)

Most do, but there are frivolous suits filed.  They just get dismissed like most of Trumps have.


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Re: Trump Lost. [Re: Enlil]
    #27028671 - 11/08/20 02:56 PM (16 days, 16 hours ago)

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I would have then added "without any evidence"?...



I'd at least like to see more transparency for future elections.  We keep moving away from things like "voter verified paper ballots" to things like "Shadow" software (do you remember that from the DNC primaries?)


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Re: Trump Lost. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27029000 - 11/08/20 06:48 PM (16 days, 12 hours ago)

Just had to jump in here... I don't have very many posts but I've been a lurker for many years...  how could anyone in their right mind challenge Enlil?  Have you not seen the MONSTER UNIT that Ask an Attorney is?!  Guy knows his stuff!

(if you can't tell I'm a big fan)  -  Also a sorry democrat.


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Re: Trump Lost. [Re: PhantomDragonX]
    #27029046 - 11/08/20 07:21 PM (16 days, 12 hours ago)

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...how could anyone in their right mind challenge Enlil?



Like this?


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Re: Trump Lost. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27029080 - 11/08/20 07:45 PM (16 days, 11 hours ago)

Don't feed the puppet!


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Re: Trump Lost. [Re: falcon] * 1
    #27029087 - 11/08/20 07:49 PM (16 days, 11 hours ago)

Conduct unbecoming an officer of the court!


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Re: Trump Lost. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27029088 - 11/08/20 07:49 PM (16 days, 11 hours ago)

you are not worth even responding to, which is a shame, bc being ostracized is a lonely game, good luck, man


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Re: Trump Lost. [Re: masspan] * 1
    #27029141 - 11/08/20 08:20 PM (16 days, 11 hours ago)

I don't mind.  I'll keep talking to the people that like to discuss evidence, not the make believers.  Have fun.


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Re: Trump Lost. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #27029543 - 11/09/20 05:30 AM (16 days, 2 hours ago)

lol make believers. Dude you’re a fucking parody of yourself.


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Re: Trump Lost. [Re: koods] * 1
    #27029930 - 11/09/20 11:13 AM (15 days, 20 hours ago)

I'm still waiting for you to post your first make believe statement from me.

I have over 100 from you.


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Re: Trump Lost. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27029940 - 11/09/20 11:21 AM (15 days, 20 hours ago)

Yeah, that's not really true.  You just declare anything "make believe" if you don't want to believe it.  Evidence doesn't factor in.


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Re: Trump Lost. [Re: Enlil]
    #27029975 - 11/09/20 11:49 AM (15 days, 19 hours ago)

Is that ANOTHER lie Enlil, or are you going to be able to prove it this time?


I declare something "make believe" if I can't find evidence about it.  If the evidence is shown, then I'll believe it.  If not, I'll assume it was make believe.

I've asked koods for evidence over 100 times where he couldn't provide it.


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Re: Trump Lost. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 4
    #27029989 - 11/09/20 11:54 AM (15 days, 19 hours ago)

Nah, you're full of shit.  You didn't used to be.  You used to be rational.  These days, you dismiss anything that goes against the answer you want.  I've defended you several times when you've been accused of being a bad faith debater because you have a long track record of not being one.  This last year, however, you've turned into something different, and I won't defend you anymore.


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Re: Trump Lost. [Re: Enlil]
    #27030012 - 11/09/20 12:12 PM (15 days, 19 hours ago)

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Nah, you're full of shit.  You didn't used to be.  You used to be rational.  These days, you dismiss anything that goes against the answer you want.  I've defended you several times when you've been accused of being a bad faith debater because you have a long track record of not being one.  This last year, however, you've turned into something different, and I won't defend you anymore.



So no examples, just more lies?  Alrighty then.


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Re: Trump Lost. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27030033 - 11/09/20 12:24 PM (15 days, 19 hours ago)

According to a poll that you yourself made, you are second in line for king of make believe.


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Re: Trump Lost. [Re: natedawgnow]
    #27030039 - 11/09/20 12:27 PM (15 days, 19 hours ago)

Where am I on the list?  I want to be the king of make believe.


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Re: Trump Lost. [Re: Enlil]
    #27030051 - 11/09/20 12:32 PM (15 days, 19 hours ago)

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Re: Trump Lost. [Re: Enlil] * 3
    #27030334 - 11/09/20 03:15 PM (15 days, 16 hours ago)

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Where am I on the list?  I want to be the king of make believe.




Come at me brah


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