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Terski
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Another new guy who seeks a veteran's insight. (contam in the grow room)
#27025254 - 11/06/20 03:22 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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 DISCLAIMER THE ACTUAL QUESTIONS ARE AT THE END OF MY POST. Lmao I ate some of my fruits for breakfast this morning and I definitely lost myself in rambling to myself basically recapping steps I took to get to where I'm at now. I meant to start for with a simple explanation of my situation and got carried away. But I don't want to delete it because I don't want to accept I wasted my time typing it out 😂. So if you get sick of reading my actual questions are going to be at the very end.
Howdy and thanks for taking the sweet time out of your surey important day to hopefully help answer a couple basic questions I have at the final stages of my first fruitful grow. I have 2 UnBODified monotubs going in a walk in closet area, and both have put out 3 good size flushes each so I am more than happy with the results of my first venture into this new highly addictive hobby of mine.
With all the success I had, I suppose it was only past due for me to finally get hit with my first trich contam (had other contams but felt super good about the fact that i hadn't gotten a single trich contam all the way through my first tries with all the steps to get to the fruiting stage.
I was worried when I first made the decision to give this a shot after reading the forums here and studying and asking questions on the Facebook group or on here more recently off and on for the past 5 years. The only thing I was worried about is that the house that I live in is a pretty decently old home that is close to a campus university and therefore was not looked after the best through the years. I cleaned the upstairs really well one day and decided to just give it a try and if i failed repeatedly then I could assume that the house probably has some mold problems in the basement (what my main concern was) or foundation.
So I ordered my spores and agar equipment, got my sab built, and it's been off to the races since then. I have been super happy with my success rate I was having while learning agar. I only would get a couple plates out of a sleeve of 20 petris that I poured up with random contams that I am not yet familiar enough with to be able to tell you what they were. But what I did know was that they weren't ever the nasty green trich contam that I worried so much about when reading all the horror stories people have had with it. So I was super happy with about roughly a ~5% -10% if I was rushed while working in the sab I have noticed I tend to get a higher contam rate with my petris.
After honing in my agar skills (I initially inoculated 20 petris with a MS syringe talk about overkill) with LOADS of transfers to get my plates to T4 . I realized after my second set of transfers that contamination didn't seem to be as big of a probleem and that I was definitely doing more work than necessary by keeping up with transfers for 20 different plates at a time. I realized how much I was wasting when throwing out there old petris I took the transfers from. So I cut it down to keeping 10 of them going at a time.
Once I had T4's ready to go I picked the 3 that I liked best and Tic tac toe dropped the one plate each into 3 separate quart jars that I decided to use whole oats in for my spawn. I then waited and shook at 30 and 70 and then after fully colonized I G2G transferred each jar expanded into 8 jars each, planning on only using 5 or 6 quarts per tub but making extras in case of contamination again.
I ended up having 4 jars that I didn't use because I suspected contam because they took longer than the rest to colonize, but no visible contams, however I probably am not great at spotting bacterial contams in spawn jars I just look for trich or any myc piss or other obvious contams and didn't seem to find anything.
Since I used BODS teks for almost every step along the way I decided to keep it in the family and go with the UnBODified monotubs too. I mixed my spawn jars into the coco and vermiculite substrate I got ready the day before and mix each set of spawn into their new homes to fruit.
All looked good for all 3 for the first couple days as they startes gettin' colonized until about a week in I made my daily check on them after getting home from work and I see the first green menacing spot sitting right on top of one of the 3 tubs. I got it out of my room asap and with sadness in my heart I buried it in my back yard and got it out of there within 13 hours of it being visible and just hoped the other 2 tubs would be fine
The other 2 tubs were pinning by the next morning and my hopes were back up. They ended up both producing pretty big first flushes and then even bigger 2nd flushes. After picking one of the tubs second flush it seemed to stall out for a little longer than it did after the first so I kept an eye on it until today, while the other tub seems to be popping out a seemingly smaller 3rd flush which I assume will be it's laast
I came home this morning to find the tub that stalled out after the second flush has a small trich spot of death in it now amd I am wondering a couple of things:
- Did I catch it in time and get it out of my grow room fast enough ordo I need to scrub the air every time a monotub gets contammed out and ready to toss?
- Do you think after 2 decent sized flushes it is worth it to try to let the contammed tub finish out it's flush in another room of the house oris it more worth the risk of spreading it around the house and just dump it and start a new one?
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- Is it common for tubs to contam out after they're done producing flushes or did it get contammed from possibly the air in the grow room and could be a repetitive problem?
I GUESS THE LONG STORY SHORT IS I goty first trich contam and I just want to know what the common practice is of someone experienced if they were to find one of their tubs at this early stage of contam?
Thank you and hopefully I didn't ramble too much to get a reply 😂🤙 [/list]
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Re: Another new guy who seeks a veteran's insight. (contam in the grow room) [Re: Terski]
#27025330 - 11/06/20 04:13 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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To be honest, the first photo on left, the tub looks like death, just dried out. However, neither look like typical trich invasion, based on the quality of photos. Trich starts off bright white, with a cauliflower like texture. Then turns green as it sporulates. The off color I'm seeing, doesn't scream trich to me. More like bruising and myc death from dryness. Again, just my opinion, based on the photos the texture and growth pattern doesn't resemble trich to me. It looks more like the myc has changed color due to neglect, less favorable environment, than trich invasion.
And being third flush, I'm confident it's just done, not because of age, but lack of water and luv.
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Edited by Tstone (11/06/20 04:19 PM)
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Terski
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Re: Another new guy who seeks a veteran's insight. (contam in the grow room) [Re: Tstone]
#27025460 - 11/06/20 05:43 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for the reply man appreciate that insight. I unfortunately already got noided out and said fuck it and tossed it in the backyard literally minutes before I checked to see if anyone replied haha. So I kind of had a feeling that they were starting to look more dry than I had it before their first flush. I let them sit in enough standing water to make them float for 4 or 5 hours after harvesting each one of their flushes, while also misting them each at least 2 times a day. But even after all that I couldn't get it to look like beads of water were just sitting on the surface like I could get it before any flushes happened. What I think might be the problem was I didn't run a dehydrator in the same small closet as the tubs until after they gave me my first flush to harvest. I noticed it would get real hot in there while I had the dehydrator running, which has been a decent amount since they started fruiting. I hate to say I think maybe me running that in such close quarters with the tubs that they ended up getting dried out constantly and I couldn't keep up with the misting. I hope that is the problem at least because that's a simple fix haha. It makes the most sense to me when I think back on when I started noticing the lack of beads on the surface.
It's all a fun learning experience though man and I'm more than happy with my yields that's I got from the 2. Now it's just time to beat that number with my next one 😉
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Re: Another new guy who seeks a veteran's insight. (contam in the grow room) [Re: Terski]
#27025529 - 11/06/20 06:30 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Trich happens I just try to remove the tub out of the grow space as soon as I spot even a little bit because trying to grow up against trich is a losing battle imo.
Trich will spread much faster than the mycelium will grow so its kind of a ticking time bomb. I personally just put the lid back on and move it outside or dump into a paper bag and put in the green container. Doesn't seem to affect the other tubs in my tent.
Some users might cut out a patch to give it more time but I am a lazy person and I would rather just get the fucker out of the equation since I have other tubs running.
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