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Re: The Little Wavy Caps Patch That Could -- 13 years after update! [Re: DreamStoneLFOD]
    #27538705 - 11/11/21 02:58 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I decided that letting them stand would be a waste so, I gifted them to a tripping couple.

205gr fresh Wavy Caps to go.



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Re: The Little Wavy Caps Patch That Could -- 13 years after update! [Re: Asante]
    #27538762 - 11/11/21 04:48 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

:cheers:


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Re: The Little Wavy Caps Patch That Could -- 13 years after update! [Re: Asante]
    #27538785 - 11/11/21 05:22 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Asante have you considered what you would do if you moved?

Would you destroy the patch, leave the patch but notify the new residents somehow or leave it and say nothing?


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Re: The Little Wavy Caps Patch That Could -- 13 years after update! [Re: Sugabearcrisp] * 4
    #27539528 - 11/11/21 04:19 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

My tripping friends have dibs on the patch if I move or die, they can dig it up and use it to start theirs.


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Re: The Little Wavy Caps Patch That Could -- 13 years after update! [Re: Asante] * 2
    #27581791 - 12/15/21 01:05 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

I got my very first cyan fruit. About 1 year total from agar>sawdust>buried with chips and more sod(spring)>fruit(oct-dec). I got 2 jars



I planted them under a hydrangea and had to poke holes in the myc to actually allow water to the hydrangea's roots. They might kill it.
I watered every day through the spring because hydrangeas are thirsty. The mushrooms did not seem to mind especially with how dry spring/summer was in 2021.
My buddy who gave me the colonized bag also buried one but did not water daily and didn't get anything this year.


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Re: The Little Wavy Caps Patch That Could -- 13 years after update! [Re: Saeurcybe] * 2
    #27614296 - 01/10/22 04:44 PM (2 years, 17 days ago)

OK, I'm doing it!  Spores ordered.  I was lightly tripping this weekend while doing some yardwork outside and found the perfect spot:

Mostly shady, but with patchy sun at times.  In an existing garden bed where I am removing everything expect 2 nice rhododendron bushes and.... a Sakura tree.  Lots of moss in the area.  Away from prying neighbors and passerbys, easy to keep an eye on from my bedroom.  Convenient access to a hose.

Planning on 8 weeks of Agar work at least, 3 or 4 weeks to spawn to bulk, hope to have it in the ground by the beginning of April.  Just need to find a bunch of woodchips for cheap/free, which should be easy around here.

If I have extra agar leftover - maybe mix up some liquid culture to take with me while walking the dog.  I see a lot of random woodchip piles.


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Re: The Little Wavy Caps Patch That Could -- 13 years after update! [Re: Shroomintune]
    #27617208 - 01/13/22 10:24 AM (2 years, 14 days ago)

:congrats:


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Re: The Little Wavy Caps Patch That Could -- 13 years after update! [Re: Boom-Town]
    #27621222 - 01/16/22 02:31 PM (2 years, 11 days ago)

Asante, did you water your patch when you started it (if you remember, of course)?

I water my freshly set up patches. I checked them recently - some died, some seem to be doing alright. Totally confused now.


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Re: The Little Wavy Caps Patch That Could -- 13 years after update! [Re: Surgeon]
    #27696371 - 03/15/22 01:54 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I generally soak-submerge the chips in a trash can (of course with a fresh bag in!) then add them to the substrate. When established it also worked to just add the chips and two big watering cans of water. In the end, tossing on the dry chips during rainy days gave an even bigger yield.


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OK, I'm doing it!  Spores ordered.  I was lightly tripping this weekend while doing some yardwork outside and found the perfect spot:






Progress report! :tardpig:


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Re: The Little Wavy Caps Patch That Could -- 13 years after update! [Re: Asante] * 4
    #27697093 - 03/15/22 11:28 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Shroomintune said:
OK, I'm doing it!  Spores ordered.  I was lightly tripping this weekend while doing some yardwork outside and found the perfect spot:





Progress report! :tardpig:




  • Put spores to agar on 1/22
  • Grew out to T2 on agar and transferred to grain on 3/7
  • Have 12 oat jars and 6 WBS jars now 10% colonized, will shake at 33%
  • Will be using an existing slightly raised bed (12") around a tree, about 7 ft in diameter, but rebuilding the retaining wall around it first.  Just bought 20 of the wrong size concrete landscaping blocks that I need to return.
  • Have 10 gallons of nice clean woodchips that are intended for meat smoking, and 10 gallons of compressed sawdust pellets, that I will pasteurize and spawn to bulk indoors. (1:5 grain to wood bulk ratio)
  • Fixed my woodchipper with a cheap Russian carburetor.  Now runs great but keeps trying to invade my peaceful Honda generator.
  • I cut down a vine maple tree (Acer circinatum) from an overgrown area of the property.  Turned it into about 100 gallons of woodchips, just right for 1:5 indoor bulk spawn to outdoor.  Currently drying out on a tarp so they don't get moldy, will ferment for 2 weeks before making the bed.  Good idea soaking inside a trash bag!
















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Re: The Little Wavy Caps Patch That Could -- 13 years after update! [Re: Shroomintune] * 2
    #27697105 - 03/15/22 11:45 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

BTW, I am also going to do an experiment to see how SIMPLE a patch can be made, for wild/guerrilla grows.  In an existing mulch bed, I'm going to make five 5-gallon piles of random, uncured chipped up yard brush. No excavating anything, no pasteurizing or fermenting, just plopped into a trench in an existing wood chip mulch bed.  Then, I will inoculate them directly, in order of decreasing complexity and decreasing likelihood of success, with:

  • A 1 quart jar of colonized WBS mixed into chips.
  • 500 mL of liquid culture mixed into chips.
  • A whole bunch of grown out agar plates, blended with unsterile water, mixed into chips.
  • My last surviving germination plate, buried under chips.
  • Direct innoculaton with a 9 mL spore syringe to dirty wood chips. (Not expecting anything)


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Re: The Little Wavy Caps Patch That Could -- 13 years after update! [Re: Shroomintune]
    #27697519 - 03/16/22 10:39 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Hell yeah! I wonder if Richmond VA would be a good place for wood lovers?

(researching now...)


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Re: The Little Wavy Caps Patch That Could -- 13 years after update! [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #27697963 - 03/16/22 05:22 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Hell yeah! I wonder if Richmond VA would be a good place for wood lovers?

(researching now...)




Probably too warm for Cyans, but its in the natural range for Ovoids, and probably others.  https://www.shroomery.org/12508/Psilocybe-ovoideocystidiata&nbsp;

I've seen some people on the "Official Woodlovers Thread" growing them.


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Re: The Little Wavy Caps Patch That Could -- 13 years after update! [Re: Shroomintune] * 2
    #27722577 - 04/05/22 08:50 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Update: Spawned 12 quarts of oats to 20 gallons worth of chips, colonizing inside now.







Made the low-tech patches I mentioned earlier too.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27722564#27722564


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Re: The Little Wavy Caps Patch That Could -- 13 years after update! [Re: Shroomintune]
    #27722811 - 04/06/22 02:50 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Update: Spawned 12 quarts of oats to 20 gallons worth of chips, colonizing inside now.







Made the low-tech patches I mentioned earlier too.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27722564#27722564





Thank you for bringing that awesomeness to this thread! You WILL succeed and harvest will be bountiful!|

Think of establishing some guerilla patches out in nature to safeguard your access to the genetics and help the wild spread!


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Re: The Little Wavy Caps Patch That Could -- 13 years after update! [Re: Asante]
    #27723699 - 04/06/22 07:19 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Thank you for bringing that awesomeness to this thread! You WILL succeed and harvest will be bountiful!|

Think of establishing some guerilla patches out in nature to safeguard your access to the genetics and help the wild spread!




Hehe, see my two recent posts on the Woodlover thread, "Low Tech Woodlovers 4 different ways" and "Mycological Hand Grenades"

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24673753/fpart/471/vc/1


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Re: The Little Wavy Caps Patch That Could -- 13 years after update! [Re: Shroomintune]
    #27939613 - 09/07/22 10:43 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Update: Spawned 12 quarts of oats to 20 gallons worth of chips, colonizing inside now.







Made the low-tech patches I mentioned earlier too.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27722564#27722564





i know this is fairly old and i hope i'm not violating anything by bumping...but i'm curious where the progress is on this grow specifically!

ive been asking around and was sent a link to this thread and i'm really hoping my own efforts for an outdoor patch can make it in time for this year.

i have 2qt and a 3lb bag that are mostly colonized. i shook them a few days ago and waiting for them to recover.

i'm hoping that i can spawn to a small bed of month old oak chips, but also seeking advice...
  • is it too late to colonize woodchips indoors to hopefully fruit them in late october/november?
  • if i colonize woodchips indoors via bags should i sterilize them first? or should i just hydrate put them in a shoebox tub with a lid on? (i'm pretty anxious about mold if i do it this way...)
  • i have a 3lb bag and 2qt jars (so about 5 qts??) of spawn, about what ratio of spawn to woodchips should i use??
  • what is this fermenting process for woodlovers? i've never heard of it...


here is a photo of my spawn. there is another jar behind the one in the front.



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Re: The Little Wavy Caps Patch That Could -- 13 years after update! [Re: psilocybebonsai] * 1
    #27947370 - 09/12/22 07:26 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Fantastic progress, great contribution!

this thread and other incarnations of it have spawned many woodlover patches all over the world :smile:


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Re: The Little Wavy Caps Patch That Could -- 13 years after update! [Re: psilocybebonsai] * 1
    #27955987 - 09/18/22 12:26 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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psilocybebonsai said:
i know this is fairly old and i hope i'm not violating anything by bumping...but i'm curious where the progress is on this grow specifically!

ive been asking around and was sent a link to this thread and i'm really hoping my own efforts for an outdoor patch can make it in time for this year.





Hey, sorry, I drafted a reply earlier but it disappeared without posting?

Anyway... I spawned to an outside semi-raised bed back in mid May.  About 12" deep, 7-8' in diameter.  I put in some hostas and ferns to fill in the bed a bit, and added some strawberry plants later.  My bed is a bit exposed to afternoon sun so I wanted some extra shade for good surface conditions.    I added an automatic watering system that puts out 2 hours of light mist every other day. Here's what it looked like at the end of June, 1.5 months after going in.



By early August it filled out to this, If you turned over the patch a bit you'd find some good areas of myc but not right at the surface.





By now, the strawberry is totally nuts and pretty much any woodchip on the surface has a solid growth of myc right underneath.  No pins yet, but we haven't had a really cold night yet, and our fall rains haven't started. 







I'm expecting pins soon though, some really crazy wild mushrooms have been popping off in my yard.












Now your questions...

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i have 2qt and a 3lb bag that are mostly colonized. i shook them a few days ago and waiting for them to recover.

i'm hoping that i can spawn to a small bed of month old oak chips, but also seeking advice...
  • is it too late to colonize woodchips indoors to hopefully fruit them in late october/november?
  • if i colonize woodchips indoors via bags should i sterilize them first? or should i just hydrate put them in a shoebox tub with a lid on? (i'm pretty anxious about mold if i do it this way...)
  • i have a 3lb bag and 2qt jars (so about 5 qts??) of spawn, about what ratio of spawn to woodchips should i use??
  • what is this fermenting process for woodlovers? i've never heard of it...







Yeah, I think it's too late to be colonizing inside now, to make an outdoor bed now and get fruits this year.  They grow a lot slower than cubes, it really takes a growing season for the bed to fill out, and the fruiting is triggered by seasonal weather changes. I'd go ahead and start spawning inside now, you should be able to get several batches run and have a really good amount of spawn to plant in the ground by early spring.

For my indoor woodchip colonization, I used mostly woodchips that were meant for smoking meats, so they were clean and dry with no mold, and I did nothing to sanitize them other than to soak in near boiling water to re-hydrate. 

For my outdoor spawn-to-bulk woodchips, I used nasty wild tree branches and trimmings that I chipped myself, chock full of wild mold and bugs and stuff.  To prepare them, I fermented by soaking in a trash can full of hose water for 3 weeks, the just dumping the whole thing into my raised bed.  It will stink something AWFUL, so you would not want to do this for indoor colonization.

Ratios, every time I expand it's 5:1.  So 5 parts woodchips to 1 part colonized grain, then 5 parts fresh woodchips to 1 part colonized woodchips, and so on.  Stretch it much more than this and it colonizes too slowly.


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Re: The Little Wavy Caps Patch That Could -- 13 years after update! [Re: Shroomintune]
    #27966355 - 09/24/22 04:44 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

psilocybebonsai said:
i know this is fairly old and i hope i'm not violating anything by bumping...but i'm curious where the progress is on this grow specifically!

ive been asking around and was sent a link to this thread and i'm really hoping my own efforts for an outdoor patch can make it in time for this year.





Hey, sorry, I drafted a reply earlier but it disappeared without posting?

Anyway... I spawned to an outside semi-raised bed back in mid May.  About 12" deep, 7-8' in diameter.  I put in some hostas and ferns to fill in the bed a bit, and added some strawberry plants later.  My bed is a bit exposed to afternoon sun so I wanted some extra shade for good surface conditions.    I added an automatic watering system that puts out 2 hours of light mist every other day. Here's what it looked like at the end of June, 1.5 months after going in.


*pics excluded for consolidation*


Now your questions...

Quote:


i have 2qt and a 3lb bag that are mostly colonized. i shook them a few days ago and waiting for them to recover.

i'm hoping that i can spawn to a small bed of month old oak chips, but also seeking advice...
  • is it too late to colonize woodchips indoors to hopefully fruit them in late october/november?
  • if i colonize woodchips indoors via bags should i sterilize them first? or should i just hydrate put them in a shoebox tub with a lid on? (i'm pretty anxious about mold if i do it this way...)
  • i have a 3lb bag and 2qt jars (so about 5 qts??) of spawn, about what ratio of spawn to woodchips should i use??
  • what is this fermenting process for woodlovers? i've never heard of it...







Yeah, I think it's too late to be colonizing inside now, to make an outdoor bed now and get fruits this year.  They grow a lot slower than cubes, it really takes a growing season for the bed to fill out, and the fruiting is triggered by seasonal weather changes. I'd go ahead and start spawning inside now, you should be able to get several batches run and have a really good amount of spawn to plant in the ground by early spring.

For my indoor woodchip colonization, I used mostly woodchips that were meant for smoking meats, so they were clean and dry with no mold, and I did nothing to sanitize them other than to soak in near boiling water to re-hydrate. 

For my outdoor spawn-to-bulk woodchips, I used nasty wild tree branches and trimmings that I chipped myself, chock full of wild mold and bugs and stuff.  To prepare them, I fermented by soaking in a trash can full of hose water for 3 weeks, the just dumping the whole thing into my raised bed.  It will stink something AWFUL, so you would not want to do this for indoor colonization.

Ratios, every time I expand it's 5:1.  So 5 parts woodchips to 1 part colonized grain, then 5 parts fresh woodchips to 1 part colonized woodchips, and so on.  Stretch it much more than this and it colonizes too slowly.




Ahh, yeah okay. i DID try and spawn to my oak chips. i let them soak for a day and then dry for a day. spawned all my grain to my chips and tried to incubate indoors. tons of wild mold spores - i got a little trich (i guess) and got pretty bummed but figured that was going to happen if i didn't pasteurize or sterilize the chips... anyway, took it outside for fresh air and the green mold didn't seem to hold on very tightly.. but then i noticed the spindly mold with dark spore balls at the end (can't think of the name of it)... got even more sad as that was going really strong...

so... i said fuck it and dumped it on my sideyard and watered it and put a little lean-to to keep the sun off it.. the other day i PC some bulk HWFP for my gourmet grow and didn't put enough water in the PC and one of the bags had a small hole melted into it... so instead of inoculating it i just tossed it on top of my oak chips... we'll see what happens but i assume at BEST the mold will subside someday and the mycelium will revive in the spring and i'll have a tiny little patch..

yes... i'm pretty bummed about it.. i've found them in the wild a couple times and i'm always thrilled when i do, but now i want my own patch. crap.


thanks for your update! unfortunately mine is not as good :frown:


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