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NSaintJ
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Microdosing Psilocybin twice a day
#27024171 - 11/05/20 10:59 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey everyone. I’ve benefitted greatly from microdosing mushrooms. I grow cubensis mostly, although I have a wood lovers patch going on my property, as well as some pan cyans going indoors. I love in the PNW with cows and horses so there are plenty of liberty caps available this time of year as well. That’s mostly what I’ve personally been microdosing with as of late.
Many people come to me asking about MD, mostly people suffering from depression and anxiety. So much so that I’ve just begun encapsulating and bottling up powdered cubes. The doses range from 0.03-0.08 depending on the person. I have personally never felt like I needed two doses in a day, but many people have asked me about this as their anxiety comes back towards let afternoon. I give everyone the talk about how in a lot of ways the mushrooms can act as a teacher, and that instead of functioning like a magic pill, it will show us what is possible, and then step back, allowing us to take a step towards that beauty to meet them half way, and ultimately helping us learn how to be well on our own. I like to use it as an opportunity to teach about mindfulness and paying attention to what is coming up for them when the “good feelings” seem to go away. Over all, it’s helpful for most.
Although, one family member suffers from obsessive anxiety and finds great relief with the MD taken around 9am, but around 3 or 4 is flooded again with these obsessive thoughts. She has asked me if she can take more at this time.
My initial intuition says it won’t hurt, but it’s not ideal and that it will just increase tolerance exponentially. Given my limited knowledge on tolerance due to experiences from when I was younger and would eat mushrooms 2 or 3 times in an evening, we need to take more to get the same effect. Sometimes two or three times more after a certain window has closed. Does anyone have experience with this while microdosing?
On another note, I find that peganum harmala is a god send especially when working with people who may not be grounded enough to work with psilocybin, those who have tolerance concerns, or those who need something that lasts longer. I have begun experimenting with an approach utilizing these seeds while microdosing. One day psilocybin, next day harmala (1.5 grams ground and swallowed with water) I find that the MAOI has a build up effect, requiring less Psilocybin and Rue the following days while allowing the affects to increase until I am left at the end of the week in a beautiful space taking nothing. Then I take two days off and start again on Monday. I understand the risks with MAOIs and I am not “putting” people on this protocol, this is simply an experiment for myself. Just thought I’d throw that out there on the inter webs as I am quite pleased with this method.
Anywhoo.
Any experience microdosing psilocybin twice in one day, Or alternating psilocybin and rue every other day? What was your experience especially in regard to tolerance?
Thanks in advance:) Be well
Edited by NSaintJ (11/05/20 11:03 PM)
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Re: Microdosing Psilocybin twice a day [Re: NSaintJ]
#27024184 - 11/05/20 11:20 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm pretty sure tolerance would prevent any real effects to be felt microdosing everyday let alone twice in one day. Perhaps taking another pill could still alleviate anxiety through the power of placebo.
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Re: Microdosing Psilocybin twice a day [Re: evlyshrooms]
#27024194 - 11/05/20 11:32 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for the reply! My apologies for not specifying.
I generally recommend people to MD every other day. For those who need extra help, I recommend 5 days on and two days off. I have personally done both for prolonged periods with no noticeable increase in tolerance. In this specific case, she is taking 0.05grams 5 days a week and experiencing the same benefits each day for roughly 6 hours (Decrease in obsessive, anxious thoughts) wants to take more when it wears off generally around 3/4pm
Although that is a good point about placebo, I’d rather not have them wasting capsules (Edit: I guess it wouldn’t be a waste if it “worked” to alleviate the anxiety though, placebo or not) Thanks again for the suggestion.
My real question was, has anyone had any personal experience taking two microdoses a day? Whatever your protocol may have been, was it effective? Did you need to up the second dose?
Edited by NSaintJ (11/05/20 11:36 PM)
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Re: Microdosing Psilocybin twice a day [Re: NSaintJ]
#27025325 - 11/06/20 04:10 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have microdosed twice in one day several days in a row, though my microdoses are from .1 to .2. I believe the effects are still present and do not require more on the second dose. Tolerance does not seem to be a factor with true microdoses (some people use .4+ and this is more of a mini dose with an associated high and perceptible psychedelic effects). Others have reported the same thing. Most people say that micro doses don't effect tolerance for doing a big dose afterwords either.
When I took those micro doses I had a clear headspace and heightened energy through the whole regimen; first dose, second dose, second day, etc.
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Awesome, RichardCranium. Thanks for the info, I had never heard that a true microdose shouldn't affect tolerance.
I will do more research on microdose sizes. Now that you mention it, what im taking/suggesting does feel more like a mini dose.. This is good news about multiple doses though. I will do some experimentation as well.
Thanks again for sharing your experience!
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Re: Microdosing Psilocybin twice a day [Re: NSaintJ]
#27025836 - 11/06/20 10:32 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Actually if you are doing .05 of a gram that is very small, my wife takes that (1/20 of a gram) and I have never felt so small of a dose. But people are different and some people need twice as much, like me I take at least .1 (1/10) and as much as .25 (1/4). However my wife is nervous to even take the .05 during the day or in public. So there is a huge variance, but .3 and above I feel is objectively more than a real microdose. That's not to say that a mini dose cannot be effective for the same goals or that its not an acceptable dose for any purpose. I have experimented with pretty much everything between .075 and 1 and with different strengths of mushrooms (also a huge factor). Each person should try to personalize their dose to something that gives the desired effects and keeps them as functional as they need to be.
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I've been microdosing ~120mg cubensis twice daily for nearly two years.
I, personally, get benefits from a second dose, usually taken after a meal.
I dose ~120mg at 6am with water and some raw, unsalted sunflower seeds, and another ~120mg at around 10:50am, just after eating on lunch break at work. 00 capsules.
This is all I will speak on this topic at this time. I recieve scrutiny for having an extensive MD experience.
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Re: Microdosing Psilocybin twice a day [Re: HamHead] 1
#27025878 - 11/06/20 11:21 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hamhead I've been following your posts on the subject since you first posted about it. I like that someone has such consistent and prolific data on the microdose experience. Even if it's just anecdotal from one person. If I had the supply I would definitely be doing twice daily micro doses between .1 and .2.
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