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Re: Dutch teacher got threatened over a cartoon [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] 1
#27026156 - 11/07/20 05:43 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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The difference being the united states consistently produces things for the world besides fucking tulips.
Uhuh..
Holland, the tiny flyshit speck on the map, is the world's second largest exporting food producer after you guys. Just that tiny little country.
The Rotterdam harbor is one of the main supply routes to Europe.
We are BIG in trade and innovation.
Try again
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Re: Dutch teacher got threatened over a cartoon [Re: Asante]
#27026163 - 11/07/20 05:49 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Meh u guys have done some innovation stuff in science and things. I just think u guys have alot of similar problems over there that have reared up yet and because everyone is European over there stuff tends to get pretty ridiculous. I'm just saying the track record with political and race stuff isn't exactly the best.
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Re: Dutch teacher got threatened over a cartoon [Re: Asante] 1
#27026165 - 11/07/20 05:54 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I can't defend silencing speach
As a teacher you're supposed to be competent in bringing forth the desired effect in your students.
He failed.
The dutch society failed to stand up and protect his freedom of speach, just as they have failed to protect your ability to display your affection in public. It is a failure to condemn violent acts like beheading in the name of religion.
Silence is violence.
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Re: Dutch teacher got threatened over a cartoon [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
#27026174 - 11/07/20 05:59 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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The dutch society failed to stand up and protect his freedom of speach
They are.
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they have failed to protect your ability to display your affection in public.
They are working on that
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It is a failure to condemn violent acts like beheading in the name of religion.
They don't.
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Silence is violence.
Out of context.
You're trolling and so is the CHeif
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Re: Dutch teacher got threatened over a cartoon [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
#27026178 - 11/07/20 06:07 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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This would be considered hate speech a malicious display in a public classroom would thereby be an infringement of certain human rights from freedom of religious persecution, equality, and the right to freely pursue happiness in whatever way you so chose.
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Re: Dutch teacher got threatened over a cartoon [Re: Asante] 1
#27026186 - 11/07/20 06:16 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I am sincerely not trolling. Silencing those who wish to discuss a political cartoon because the muslims will behead you is tacit support of their threat of violence.
Now you are dismissing me and attempting to throw shade. 
I proudly and gladly will stand up for your rights asante and I will denounce violent extreemist of any sect. No one should live in fear.
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Re: Dutch teacher got threatened over a cartoon [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
#27026206 - 11/07/20 06:54 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I dont see the supposed ´trolling´ either. Kind of weaksauce Asante.
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Re: Dutch teacher got threatened over a cartoon [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#27026336 - 11/07/20 08:40 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said: LOLOL. That's an awesome response man. I love the way you've so wonderfully captured my entire personality and predicated this deep understanding of who I am based on some tiny fragments of my experiences on psychedelics when I was in the darkest period of my life, my upbringing, and my beliefs, before labeling me a goober (must be some American thing, pretty lame insult for a grown man to use) and judging me a disaster.
By all rights that post deserved s ban, but I won't enforce it just in case you feel capable of wowing me with some more of your particular insights.
I'm all yours brother, please, give me all you've got. You surely have more?
I'll grant you total immunity for the next 24 hours.
Tear me a new one.
I didn't expect it to have that sort of power, I was joking and I am sorry you were in the worst part of your life, I was expecting you to fuck around back I didn't mean to break you.
My bad. The pub rules are garbage btw and the best posters fucked off into private journals to avoid censorship but... wait a minute... you support censorship, you just said so yourself by claiming you ought to enforce these goofy censorship rules of this site... what a conundrum.
I am purposely being abrasive as fuck I'm not really like this irl lol . But I support hanging a pic of mohammed in classrooms, time to grow up and enter the twenty first century if that bothers someone, that's their problem.
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Re: Dutch teacher got threatened over a cartoon [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
#27026345 - 11/07/20 08:46 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Silencing those who wish to discuss a political cartoon because the muslims will behead you
I'm silencing no one. If you want to run the risk to meet a violent end in this way, go right ahead.
I'm silencing no free speech, I'm just saying that there are people who do so with lethal force, that I personally don't feel the urge to run the risk, and that I feel that a teacher's duties towards his students trump his ability to say or do what he likes.
He COMPLETELY misjudged that situation with detrimental effects to the students, the school, society at large and he is in police hiding paid by the taxpayer.
Thats freedumb, not wisdom.
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Re: Dutch teacher got threatened over a cartoon [Re: tomnl]
#27026356 - 11/07/20 08:51 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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tomnl said: This particular case is not about GIRLS or CHILDREN, they are 18 year old women.
People would call them innocent girls and barely children if I at 47 were to date em
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Re: Dutch teacher got threatened over a cartoon [Re: Asante]
#27026361 - 11/07/20 08:55 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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What exactly are these ´detrimental effects´ you speak of? Snowflakes getting butthurt, and turning into violent snowflakes, is all im getting.
We got jails for fools like that. Putting them in jails, would be a blessing for society. So actually the teacher did society a favor: exposing a cancerous component of society.
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Re: Dutch teacher got threatened over a cartoon [Re: Asante]
#27026370 - 11/07/20 08:59 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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tomnl said: This particular case is not about GIRLS or CHILDREN, they are 18 year old women.
People would call them innocent girls and barely children if I at 47 were to date em 
Now who is the troll here 
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Re: Dutch teacher got threatened over a cartoon [Re: Asante]
#27026379 - 11/07/20 09:03 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Asante said: The world is FUCKED UP and you have to adapt to that.
Adaptation could legitimize that which is fucked up. Wouldn't you agree to that Asante?
self-censoring, in order not to create tension, is the easiest way out. But in the long run I think there is a risk that only the censoring will be remembered. If everyone would agree to this self-censoring, then it would become more and more taboo, regardless of where and when, to portray Muslims as satire. I don't think that's a good outcome. That would legitimize their belief. Their belief should be question and never accepted (the belief that it's not okay to create satire with their prophet).
The only reasonable future is a future where everyone can take a joke and criticism without getting butt-hurt and enticing violence. The only reasonable actions in the moment, are those who lead to this future.
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Re: Dutch teacher got threatened over a cartoon [Re: tomnl]
#27026382 - 11/07/20 09:05 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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tomnl said: What exactly are these ´detrimental effects´ you speak of? Snowflakes getting butthurt, and turning into violent snowflakes, is all im getting.
You're the snowflake getting butthurt over this cause between the lines you got a bone to pick with Muslims and you kinda enjoy that this happened.
Detrimental effects?
-teacher is in hiding -police protection -taxpayer pays -school is being discredited -chasm between muslims and non muslim increases -societal unrest -feeding of racism while starving tolerance -students lost their teacher -students are more at odds with each others -racists see their xenophobia justified -news space taken away from other events -more anger and anxiety in the nation
Your butthurt with Muslims spawned this thread, you cultivate anti islamic sentiments on the boards cause hey, we are not divided enough.
"snowflakes getting butthurt" <--- I know your tribe, this is the language of your people.
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Re: Dutch teacher got threatened over a cartoon [Re: Asante]
#27026387 - 11/07/20 09:10 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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And its all the teachers fault for having hung a cartoon for 5 years in his classroom, which he used in his classes about satire for 5 years without any problem. A cartoon not specified as anti muslim but anti extrimists. Anti violence. An award winning cartoon even.
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Re: Dutch teacher got threatened over a cartoon [Re: tomnl]
#27026390 - 11/07/20 09:12 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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An award winning cartoon even.
And the satire community totally has no bias right?
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Re: Dutch teacher got threatened over a cartoon [Re: tomnl] 1
#27026407 - 11/07/20 09:22 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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tomnl said: And its all the teachers fault for having hung a cartoon for 5 years in his classroom, which he used in his classes about satire for 5 years without any problem. A cartoon not specified as anti muslim but anti extrimists. Anti violence. An award winning cartoon even.
Greets Tom
Maybe this is just one of those things I don't "get" but isn't the point of political cartoons like this to piss off that base? I mean, the cartoon isn't exactly humorous. There's no joke, there's no punchline, it's just..."You can cut off our heads but neenerneenerneener you'll never break our spirit" kind of a thing? Am I reading it correctly?
It's purposely not a joke, but a jab.
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Re: Dutch teacher got threatened over a cartoon [Re: Ima Trooper]
#27026423 - 11/07/20 09:32 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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"hahaha you can cut off our head and we will continue insulting you"
ZOMG award this guy a satire prize, I can't stop laughing.
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Re: Dutch teacher got threatened over a cartoon [Re: Ima Trooper]
#27026497 - 11/07/20 10:13 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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tomnl said: And its all the teachers fault for having hung a cartoon for 5 years in his classroom, which he used in his classes about satire for 5 years without any problem. A cartoon not specified as anti muslim but anti extrimists. Anti violence. An award winning cartoon even.
Greets Tom
Maybe this is just one of those things I don't "get" but isn't the point of political cartoons like this to piss off that base? I mean, the cartoon isn't exactly humorous. There's no joke, there's no punchline, it's just..."You can cut off our heads but neenerneenerneener you'll never break our spirit" kind of a thing? Am I reading it correctly?
It's purposely not a joke, but a jab.
It was made as an answer to the Charlie Hebdo killings.
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Re: Dutch teacher got threatened over a cartoon [Re: Tripsurfer]
#27026706 - 11/07/20 12:05 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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It’s Holland.
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