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becoming a higher person with meditation
    #27017221 - 11/02/20 10:23 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I found back to like how I was when I was a child today

with meditation

it took 1500 hours of meditation

vipassanna

I'd go through much toil and struggle for that

I'd pull a huge weight all my life for it

I become more honest sane and stable

and sweet

if you are in the same situation where you got bent to something more wicked or less realitstic and rational and honest and quite ok mentally

do it

1500 hours

or something like that

it will happen

you will become more honest have much much more easy time

you will not be unhappy


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Re: becoming a higher person with meditation [Re: Ferdinando] * 2
    #27018013 - 11/02/20 06:05 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Meditation in Jewish Mysticism:

"By Yoga is meant that rigorous system of mental and self discipline which has as its primary aim the absolute and complete control of the thinking principle, the Ruach; the ultimate object being to obtain the faculty with which to still the stream of thought at will, so that that which is behind (as it were), or above, or beyond the mind can manifest on to the stillness thus produced. The quiescence of the mental turbulence is the primary essential. With this faculty at command, the student is taught to exalt the mind by various technical methods of magick until it overrides the normal limitations and barriers of its nature, ascending in a tremendous unquenchable column of fire-like ecstasy to the universal consciousness, with which it becomes united. Once having become at one with transcendental existence, it intuitively partakes of universal knowledge, which is considered to be a more reliable source of information than the rational introspection of the intellect or the experimental scientific investigation of matter can give."

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Re: becoming a higher person with meditation [Re: Buster_Brown] * 1
    #27018365 - 11/02/20 09:27 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Well Ferdinando, I thought you were sweet even before your 1500 hours :P

You must be like chocolate cake now, eheheh.


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Re: becoming a higher person with meditation [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #27018699 - 11/03/20 05:11 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Buster_Brown said:
Meditation in Jewish Mysticism:

"By Yoga is meant that rigorous system of mental and self discipline which has as its primary aim the absolute and complete control of the thinking principle, the Ruach; the ultimate object being to obtain the faculty with which to still the stream of thought at will, so that that which is behind (as it were), or above, or beyond the mind can manifest on to the stillness thus produced. The quiescence of the mental turbulence is the primary essential. With this faculty at command, the student is taught to exalt the mind by various technical methods of magick until it overrides the normal limitations and barriers of its nature, ascending in a tremendous unquenchable column of fire-like ecstasy to the universal consciousness, with which it becomes united. Once having become at one with transcendental existence, it intuitively partakes of universal knowledge, which is considered to be a more reliable source of information than the rational introspection of the intellect or the experimental scientific investigation of matter can give."

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Looking at that link now!
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Re: becoming a higher person with meditation [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27018717 - 11/03/20 05:31 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Chp 2 has some nice points.

My own experience is somewhat alongside the op's

I compose myself and ask if there is a smile inside, and then it appears!


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Re: becoming a higher person with meditation [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #27018875 - 11/03/20 08:18 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

well there was always this not good enough yet

and too difficult

or something like that

all that just stopped

or some of it

like very very significantly

after one second bam no of that

it talks about in in mindfulness in plain english

it's like in harry potter you don't know what that's like

I'd like to see it more

I'm sure there's a level after that but I'm satisified about where I'm at

:smile:

and one thing that is not clear to us (in the western world) and probably almost entirely is it's about the hours

it's about doing the time

not all the suffering goes away

but all the dense stuff


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Re: becoming a higher person with meditation [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27018900 - 11/03/20 08:35 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

being honest about it is fantastic.

clearly you are still struggling with some "absolute" values, but you are becoming very familiar with the actuality of your personal reality, including the amazing changes from before.

the mental terrain has become higher like the hills behind the towers in the moon card.
many natural things are noticed that were hidden before. this changes nothing, but makes everything more intimate.



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Re: becoming a higher person with meditation [Re: Ferdinando] * 1
    #27022599 - 11/05/20 04:47 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Vipassanna is my preferred method as well, OP.

I combine it with fitness and get amazing results.


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Re: becoming a higher person with meditation [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27022642 - 11/05/20 05:50 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

me too, but to get to the ordinary.

it is slightly amazing as a transition from linear thinking to a more 3-d breathing presence and linear thought observed as it happens.


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Re: becoming a higher person with meditation (moved) [Re: Ferdinando]
    #27030991 - 11/10/20 02:11 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

This thread was moved from Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology.

Reason:
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Re: becoming a higher person with meditation (moved) [Re: Lucis]
    #27051947 - 11/22/20 10:52 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

hmm - moved to be more proper, then.
I think one must be improper too, or get lumped with the loonies. haha!


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