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Kont



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Amanita Pantherina!
#27022513 - 11/05/20 01:37 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Habitat: I found them in my local woods (İstanbul/Turkey), on an altitude of 250-300 meters . It's a mixed wood mainly containing pine trees, but unlike the information found on internet, Amanitas here prefer to grow under some kind of bush. Idk it's name but I find 90% of them growing under/near it.
Gills: Gills are like the typical Amanita Muscaria
Stem: I added its pic
Cap: About 7 cm. Brown-ish, has the veil traces.
Spore print color: didn't take spore print 🤷♂️
Bruising: No bruising
Other information: It's easy to ID Muscaria but when it comes to Pantherina I'm a little scared as there's a higher chance of mistaking it for death caps.
Also, I found them under a transmission tower. I'm worried if it'd be safe to consume them. Is there a chance they've gotten toxic because of this? Maybe they're containing heavy metals or they got radioactive? Idk...
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Kont



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Re: Amanita Pantherina! [Re: Kont]
#27022514 - 11/05/20 01:40 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Also I found this one deep in the wood but left it there because I couldn't be sure, and there was no any other near that area. I think it looks like Pantherina though. Any thoughts?
Edited by Kont (11/05/20 01:42 AM)
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Re: Amanita Pantherina! [Re: Kont]
#27022518 - 11/05/20 01:58 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Also, I found them under a transmission tower. I'm worried if it'd be safe to consume them. Is there a chance they've gotten toxic because of this? Maybe they're containing heavy metals or they got radioactive? Idk...
I'd wait for a TI for the A. pantherina but one thing I can tell you is that transmission towers are not radioactive and there shouldn't be heavy metals on the mushroom because of it.
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Re: Amanita Pantherina! [Re: Kont]
#27022526 - 11/05/20 02:18 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Maybe Amanita rubescens group, but we'll need better pictures.
Can you please take good close up shots of the entire stem including one of the "skirt" and of the stem base. Also, you should slice an intact and fresh specimen lengthwise in half and wait a while, then take pictures and share them with us.
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Kont



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Nice to know the transmission tower's not a problem because I tend to find more in the same spots.
Unfortunately these are the only pics I have. I threw the stem away and dried the cap as I thought these would be enough. 🤷♂️
I looked up and it says rubescens are edible. If it's not lethal for sure, then this is enough for me.
Also it's crazy how similar rubescens and pantherinas are! The former seems to have a slightly brownish or yellowish stem but in some pics they're totally the same. How do we tell the difference?
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Re: Amanita Pantherina! [Re: Kont]
#27022537 - 11/05/20 02:45 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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To identify, we must cut it in the half as you said, and then if it blushes it's rubescens. Right?
Luckily I was able to find the stem! Will these help? It got crumbled when trying to protect my hand from thorns but I can say volva wasn't present.
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Kont



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Re: Amanita Pantherina! [Re: Kont]
#27022539 - 11/05/20 02:52 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Some other ones I'd found before.
Edited by Kont (11/05/20 02:53 AM)
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Re: Amanita Pantherina! [Re: Kont]
#27022629 - 11/05/20 05:33 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Kont said: Some other ones I'd found before.

These ones look closer to A. pantherina, I think.
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Kont said: To identify, we must cut it in the half as you said, and then if it blushes it's rubescens. Right?
Luckily I was able to find the stem! Will these help? It got crumbled when trying to protect my hand from thorns but I can say volva wasn't present.

You should cut an entire intact specimen in half lengthwise, to expose any discoloration in the flesh. Although there are obvious brownish spots on the stem base in your pictures, it isn't really enough to be sure.
Please don't eat any mushrooms unless you are 100% sure of its identity. Also, A. rubescens needs thorough cooking before eaten, as it is toxic when raw.
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Yup, I'd never mess with anything I don't know. This why I tried to get a TI comment but your warnings are truly appreciated!
So you are saying it's impossible to guarantee that it's not Amanita Phalloides? Because I'm not worried of having strobiliformis or rubescens. I apply thorough preperation methods so they both would be OK. for me.
Imma ask one more thing though. The top end of the volva has a gutter, just as described for the pantherina. In rubescens, it's described as rather bulbous and without a gutter. Excelsa doesn't even seem to be like an option as it has grey scales. This makes me think it's either pantherina or phalloides. And I've never seen a picture of a phalloides with scales.
To be short, I'd prefer not to throw it away if there's no chance for it to be lethal. I'd really love to hear your comment on this.
Edited by Kont (11/05/20 08:24 AM)
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