Home | Community | Message Board

Kratom Eye
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Mushroom-Hut Liquid Cultures   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Amanita Muscaria Store Amanita Extract   Bridgetown Botanicals CBD Concentrates

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
OfflineKont
Male User Gallery


Registered: 07/30/18
Posts: 36
Loc: Turkey, Istanbul Flag
Last seen: 3 years, 1 month
Amanita Pantherina!
    #27022513 - 11/05/20 01:37 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Habitat:
I found them in my local woods (İstanbul/Turkey), on an altitude of 250-300 meters . It's a mixed wood mainly containing pine trees, but unlike the information found on internet, Amanitas here prefer to grow under some kind of bush. Idk it's name but I find 90% of them growing under/near it.

Gills:
Gills are like the typical Amanita Muscaria

Stem:
I added its pic

Cap:
About 7 cm. Brown-ish, has the veil traces.

Spore print color:
didn't take spore print 🤷‍♂️

Bruising:
No bruising

Other information:
It's easy to ID Muscaria but when it comes to Pantherina I'm a little scared as there's a higher chance of mistaking it for death caps.

Also, I found them under a transmission tower. I'm worried if it'd be safe to consume them. Is there a chance they've gotten toxic because of this? Maybe they're containing heavy metals or they got radioactive? Idk...



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineKont
Male User Gallery


Registered: 07/30/18
Posts: 36
Loc: Turkey, Istanbul Flag
Last seen: 3 years, 1 month
Re: Amanita Pantherina! [Re: Kont]
    #27022514 - 11/05/20 01:40 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Also I found this one deep in the wood but left it there because I couldn't be sure, and there was no any other near that area. I think it looks like Pantherina though. Any thoughts?



Edited by Kont (11/05/20 01:42 AM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleshroower
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 06/10/06
Posts: 518
Loc: Europe
Re: Amanita Pantherina! [Re: Kont]
    #27022518 - 11/05/20 01:58 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:


Also, I found them under a transmission tower. I'm worried if it'd be safe to consume them. Is there a chance they've gotten toxic because of this? Maybe they're containing heavy metals or they got radioactive? Idk...





I'd wait for a TI for the A. pantherina but one thing I can tell you is that transmission towers are not radioactive and there shouldn't be heavy metals on the mushroom because of it.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAnglerfishM
hearing things
Male User Gallery


Registered: 09/08/10
Posts: 18,643
Loc: Norvegr Flag
Last seen: 4 hours, 23 minutes
Trusted Identifier
Re: Amanita Pantherina! [Re: Kont]
    #27022526 - 11/05/20 02:18 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe Amanita rubescens group, but we'll need better pictures.

Can you please take good close up shots of the entire stem including one of the "skirt" and of the stem base.
Also, you should slice an intact and fresh specimen lengthwise in half and wait a while, then take pictures
and share them with us.


--------------------




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineKont
Male User Gallery


Registered: 07/30/18
Posts: 36
Loc: Turkey, Istanbul Flag
Last seen: 3 years, 1 month
Re: Amanita Pantherina! [Re: Anglerfish]
    #27022530 - 11/05/20 02:32 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Nice to know the transmission tower's not a problem because I tend to find more in the same spots.

Unfortunately these are the only pics I have. I threw the stem away and dried the cap as I thought these would be enough. 🤷‍♂️

I looked up and it says rubescens are edible. If it's not lethal for sure, then this is enough for me.

Also it's crazy how similar rubescens and pantherinas are! The former seems to have a slightly brownish or yellowish stem but in some pics they're totally the same. How do we tell the difference?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineKont
Male User Gallery


Registered: 07/30/18
Posts: 36
Loc: Turkey, Istanbul Flag
Last seen: 3 years, 1 month
Re: Amanita Pantherina! [Re: Kont]
    #27022537 - 11/05/20 02:45 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

To identify, we must cut it in the half as you said, and then if it blushes it's rubescens. Right?

Luckily I was able to find the stem! Will these help? It got crumbled when trying to protect my hand from thorns but I can say volva wasn't present.



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineKont
Male User Gallery


Registered: 07/30/18
Posts: 36
Loc: Turkey, Istanbul Flag
Last seen: 3 years, 1 month
Re: Amanita Pantherina! [Re: Kont]
    #27022539 - 11/05/20 02:52 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Some other ones I'd found before.


Edited by Kont (11/05/20 02:53 AM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAnglerfishM
hearing things
Male User Gallery


Registered: 09/08/10
Posts: 18,643
Loc: Norvegr Flag
Last seen: 4 hours, 23 minutes
Trusted Identifier
Re: Amanita Pantherina! [Re: Kont]
    #27022629 - 11/05/20 05:33 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Kont said:
Some other ones I'd found before.





These ones look closer to A. pantherina, I think.

Quote:

Kont said:
To identify, we must cut it in the half as you said, and then if it blushes it's rubescens. Right?

Luckily I was able to find the stem! Will these help? It got crumbled when trying to protect my hand from thorns but I can say volva wasn't present.






You should cut an entire intact specimen in half lengthwise, to expose any discoloration in the flesh.
Although there are obvious brownish spots on the stem base in your pictures, it isn't really enough
to be sure.

Please don't eat any mushrooms unless you are 100% sure of its identity.
Also, A. rubescens needs thorough cooking before eaten, as it is
toxic when raw.


--------------------




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineKont
Male User Gallery


Registered: 07/30/18
Posts: 36
Loc: Turkey, Istanbul Flag
Last seen: 3 years, 1 month
Re: Amanita Pantherina! [Re: Anglerfish]
    #27022797 - 11/05/20 08:17 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yup, I'd never mess with anything I don't know. This why I tried to get a TI comment but your warnings are truly appreciated!

So you are saying it's impossible to guarantee that it's not Amanita Phalloides? Because I'm not worried of having strobiliformis or rubescens. I apply thorough preperation methods so they both would be OK. for me.

Imma ask one more thing though. The top end of the volva has a gutter, just as described for the pantherina.
In rubescens, it's described as rather bulbous and without a gutter.
Excelsa doesn't even seem to be like an option as it has grey scales.
This makes me think it's either pantherina or phalloides. And I've never seen a picture of a phalloides with scales.

To be short, I'd prefer not to throw it away if there's no chance for it to be lethal. I'd really love to hear your comment on this.


Edited by Kont (11/05/20 08:24 AM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: Mushroom-Hut Liquid Cultures   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Amanita Muscaria Store Amanita Extract   Bridgetown Botanicals CBD Concentrates


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Amanita pantherina!
( 1 2 all )
FerretWhip 6,676 20 10/25/06 05:37 PM
by coon
* Is this Amanita Pantherina? madmax 3,103 6 07/17/09 11:58 AM
by madmax
* Amanita pantherina? Bloodymuffin 1,532 19 10/13/09 05:06 PM
by Bloodymuffin
* amanita pantherina kapowsin 2,119 3 12/20/03 07:11 PM
by Gumby
* amanita pantherina questions secretmachine 1,527 2 10/02/04 08:56 AM
by DepthToTheCore
* Amanita Pantherina Grade "A" Caps dynastoned 2,837 12 09/17/05 04:33 PM
by RandomHero
* Amanita Pantherina???(pics included,but they are terrible) aminitaman 2,726 8 09/14/03 08:29 PM
by ToxicMan
* amanita pantherina??? doc34 3,206 13 03/14/04 04:57 PM
by Anonymous

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: ToxicMan, inski, Alan Rockefeller, Duggstar, TimmiT, Anglerfish, Tmethyl, Lucis, Doc9151, Land Trout
186 topic views. 1 members, 17 guests and 8 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.027 seconds spending 0.007 seconds on 14 queries.