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OfflineZionsMane
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Mystery: A friend cultivated some mushrooms that always seem to make me very sick
    #27022295 - 11/04/20 08:29 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

The mycelium looked fine in the jar, the cake looked fine and colonized + consolidated, the fruits were beautiful and looked fine.  But the three times I've consumed these (tea after properly drying, but I generally drink the solids) they have made me incredibly sick (doubled over with cramping, higher amounts = more sickness) for about 2 hours with very mild psychoactive effects.  The last time I thought I was feeling the fruits going through my guts as I digested, like passing through with localized pain over time moving down through my intestines.

THEN (after about 2 hours), I feel completely fine ALL OF A SUDDEN.  I get up, and immediately begin feeling really REALLY heavy psychoactive effects relative to the dose.  The last time I consumed 4 grams, and after the cramps subsided (~3 hours elapsed time from consumption) I was mind blowing-ly high for 5 hours.  While high I had a big residual cramp hit me (~5 hours elapsed time from consumption) during the cramp (for ~15 seconds) I had incredibly strong visual hallucinations, as if something had turned up a dial or pushed a gas pedal on my experience during the cramp and then when the cramp subsided I went back to just being really high.

I have consumed psychoactive mushrooms (cubensis, bought off the black market, origin unknown) weekly for a very long time, normally 4-6gs each time (hundreds and hundreds of experiences).  I've never EVER had any stomach issues like this EVER.  EVER.  So please don't tell me it is the chitin or my body's reaction to "shrooms".  This is far more severe, BUT does feel like a VERY exaggerated form GI distress that seems familiar if one has eaten a lot of mushrooms.

This was one of the first times my friend grew, but as stated previously I was privy to the entirety of the process.  As far as I know I am the only person to have consumed this batch (I believe B+, a MSS from a long standing and hopefully reputable spore trader with a website) so I don't have another control human (guinea pig) to compare my experience.  Also my friend was growing another strain (KSS MSS from same trader) birthed at the same time as the B+ with the same substrate and fruited in the same area (dubtubs in a martha) and those fruits did not make me sick at all, nor my friend. 

What's going on here?

These are obviously psychoactive so I'm not sure if it is possible if the MSS had some kind of poisonous species of spores in it as well (accidentally) that also fruited at the same time AND I consumed concurrently with psychoactive species? (seems incredibly unlikely)

Was the dubtub substrate contaminated with something unnoticed or invisible that makes people sick? (again KSS same substrate, same martha, no sickness)

Was the obviously fully colonized and consolidated jar contaminated with something unnoticed or invisible that makes people sick?

Is this possibly just a set of genetics that produces such undigestible chitin that in all my years (2 decades) of regular consumption from random sources that I have never interacted with this genetic freak of undigestible nature?

Have I now eaten mushrooms for too many decades and now there are some types of genetics my body rejects?  (again other strains are still fine for me)

These are the main hypothesis I've come up with over the past month.

I have not tried these fresh, I have not tried just tea no solids (which would be my next step to figure this out if I don't get answers on here.

I have been searching threads from various areas of the internet to see if anyone has had similar experiences.  I found one on here I believe but there was no consensus as to what had happened and it was from I think like 15 years ago.

I am really hoping to solve this mystery out and hopefully ensure my friend doesn't repeat whatever happened and make more people sick.

Thank you for your thoughtful replies.  Long time lurker, first time poster.  Oh and I really believe this might have something to do with the cultivation process (read contamination) which is why I posted it in this forum.  I've talked to many psychonauts about this and it stumps them.

LOVEz


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Re: Mystery: A friend cultivated some mushrooms that always seem to make me very sick [Re: ZionsMane]
    #27022300 - 11/04/20 08:34 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

This is crazy as I've never heard anything like this. I am clueless. However, I'm gonna stick around for science purposes in case this ever happens to me. :takingnotes:


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Re: Mystery: A friend cultivated some mushrooms that always seem to make me very sick [Re: tiptrippy]
    #27022602 - 11/05/20 04:50 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Twenty years ago there was a batch of mushrooms going around that seemed to make a random selection of people sick. It was back when I’d eat mushrooms with a dozen or so people, and 1-2 would get really hot, sweaty, and nauseated for a while. It hit me once, and sucked. I assumed there was some contamination that got maybe 10% of the mushrooms from the batch.

I’ve also experienced the gut pain, but never as you’ve described. Are you eating them on an empty stomach?


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