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seatownmama


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wild Amanita muscaria, spores dropped, any potency left? 1
#27022179 - 11/04/20 07:29 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey Folks - Stumbled upon a veritable harvest of Amanita muscaria out in the wilds and they are way past veil breaking/spore dropping. The caps are almost turned in on themselves.
Some of the caps were starting to mold so tossed those, but wondering if there is any potency left in the remaining stems/caps etc.
Washed and dried them to a crisp and am storing in plastic bag with desiccant. Would be so sad to toss them, but if they're of no use...I'll just have to visit that spot earlier next year 
Pix show heads with the mold, as well as veils/caps etc.
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Re: wild Amanita muscaria, spores dropped, any potency left? [Re: seatownmama]
#27022214 - 11/04/20 07:41 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Don't eat mold.
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seatownmama


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Re: wild Amanita muscaria, spores dropped, any potency left? [Re: kneesocks] 1
#27022238 - 11/04/20 07:58 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks - yeah I tossed the moldy ones - just showing it for reference.
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Re: wild Amanita muscaria, spores dropped, any potency left? [Re: seatownmama]
#27022267 - 11/04/20 08:07 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Potency should be fine, you dried them and drying them helps decarboxylate the ibotenic acid into muscimol and this raises the potency. Have a good experience!
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seatownmama


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Re: wild Amanita muscaria, spores dropped, any potency left? [Re: kneesocks] 1
#27022338 - 11/04/20 08:59 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fantastic kneesocks, thanks! Last time I tried them, I did a soak in milk overnight to reconstitute, then warmed that and drank. No nausea luckily.
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Re: wild Amanita muscaria, spores dropped, any potency left? [Re: seatownmama]
#27024219 - 11/06/20 12:09 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Interesting. Never heard of soaking in milk. What was the reasoning behind this? I’m assuming you drank the milk and felt affects?
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Re: wild Amanita muscaria, spores dropped, any potency left? [Re: NSaintJ]
#27024613 - 11/06/20 08:47 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's nothing special. You can use milk or water, it's the same result.
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Re: wild Amanita muscaria, spores dropped, any potency left? [Re: Pandemoon]
#27024982 - 11/06/20 12:41 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pandemoon said: It's nothing special. You can use milk or water, it's the same result.
Is the soaking in water/milk so effective that you can filter out the mushroom pieces without significant loss of potency?
I still have some dried fly agaric lying around and wouldn't mind another mellow trip. But I'd like to avoid having to consume the mushroom again - tasted so disgusting.
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Re: wild Amanita muscaria, spores dropped, any potency left? [Re: funky123]
#27025275 - 11/06/20 03:34 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I had read somewhere here on the forums that soaking them in milk to reconstitute can help avoid the nausea that's associated with them.
I ground mine last time with a mortar and pestle, there were some little chunks left, put it in a mug of milk and put it in the fridge overnight. In the morning, I warmed the milk, added honey and drank. I think I might have taken too much that first time (4g) as I started to trip and then just fell asleep 
But yes I read you could also do tea (water) and strain the bits out and should still work..
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Re: wild Amanita muscaria, spores dropped, any potency left? [Re: seatownmama] 1
#27026108 - 11/07/20 04:47 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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You can either boil them for 30min to make a tea (hot water extraction), or soak them for a day or two in cold water (cold water extraction).
Both methods work fine, muscimol is very soluble in water and milk.
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