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Liberty Caps ID request please
#27018618 - 11/03/20 02:34 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm pretty sure that these are all Libs, but I would really appreciate confirmation from a Trusted Identifier if anyone out there would be so kind.
Found yesterday in my usual spot in Kent, UK - a wild meadow, no grazing animals.
Apologies that the gill shot was taken after drying out.
Many thanks indeed for your help 



Edited by Sid Shroom (11/03/20 04:42 AM)
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Re: Liberty Caps ID request please [Re: Sid Shroom]
#27018682 - 11/03/20 04:40 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's hard to accurately ID dried mushrooms
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Re: Liberty Caps ID request please [Re: Sid Shroom]
#27018734 - 11/03/20 05:55 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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They are libs.
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Re: Liberty Caps ID request please [Re: Joie]
#27018810 - 11/03/20 07:32 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Many thanks Shroomhunts and Joie, your help is hugely appreciated 
I will be sure to post pics 'fresh' in future.
Cheers guys.
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Re: Liberty Caps ID request please [Re: Sid Shroom]
#27018907 - 11/03/20 08:39 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I agree with Psilocybe semilanceata except for the 1st specimen on the left in the 1st and 3rd pictures
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Re: Liberty Caps ID request please [Re: Doc9151]
#27018919 - 11/03/20 08:46 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks Doc
Any idea what else it might be?
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Re: Liberty Caps ID request please [Re: Sid Shroom]
#27018927 - 11/03/20 08:48 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Panaeolus acuminatus
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Re: Liberty Caps ID request please [Re: Doc9151]
#27018937 - 11/03/20 08:54 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't agree but a better res pic might help, and whichever one of us is wrong has to give everything they have to the other one.
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Re: Liberty Caps ID request please [Re: Joie]
#27019628 - 11/03/20 02:46 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hi Doc and Joie
This has taught me to definitely upload fresh pics in future, but to help settle this dispute I've attached a few more pics that I've just taken of that particular specimen, the largest in the batch (which has now had about 32 hours drying time) :



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Re: Liberty Caps ID request please [Re: Sid Shroom]
#27019656 - 11/03/20 02:58 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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lol but ty. I'll say it's a draw.
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Re: Liberty Caps ID request please [Re: Joie]
#27020623 - 11/04/20 01:59 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Liberty Caps ID request please [Re: Joie]
#27020745 - 11/04/20 05:17 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Joie said: I'll say it's a draw.
My gut feeling is leaning towards P. semilanceata, but the pictures don't show enough detail.
OP, next time could you please take some pictures of the mushrooms in their habitat, preferably also before you pick them? Pictures taken indoors with a phone camera like this aren't really enough for sufficient identification.
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Re: Liberty Caps ID request please [Re: Anglerfish]
#27020845 - 11/04/20 06:54 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Will do, thanks Anglerfish - much appreciated
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Re: Liberty Caps ID request please [Re: Sid Shroom]
#27020888 - 11/04/20 07:32 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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No worries, my pleasure. 
Check this mushroom photography guide for hints and tips:
http://www.koraks.nl/index.php?menuparent=&page=9
Also check http://mushroomobserver.org for numerous good examples of mushroom pictures.
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Re: Liberty Caps ID request please [Re: Anglerfish]
#27020999 - 11/04/20 08:45 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Will do, thank you.
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Re: Liberty Caps ID request please [Re: Sid Shroom]
#27021226 - 11/04/20 11:08 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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OK so I just found these weird looking things about 90 minutes ago, in the same spot. Are these all 'sterile' libs and should I discard them?
Thank you for any advice you'd care to offer on this.






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Re: Liberty Caps ID request please [Re: Sid Shroom]
#27021230 - 11/04/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Then as I was leaving, I went to pick this guy but the stem snapped pretty much as soon I touched it. So I decided to discard it. Looking at this photo now though, I think it was probably a perfectly fine Lib :
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Re: Liberty Caps ID request please [Re: Sid Shroom]
#27021242 - 11/04/20 11:15 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Last photo is a liberty cap. The stems will snap easily when they are or have been waterlogged. The pictures in your previous post look like "sterile" liberty caps, they are pale because of low to no spore production. You can confirm by checking for the thin separable gelatinous pellicle.
Be aware that some species of Mycena, that have white gills, and also has a pellicle, but they don't look like these.
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Re: Liberty Caps ID request please [Re: Anglerfish]
#27021254 - 11/04/20 11:20 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wow thank you for the instant reply Anglerfish!
Yeah I've noticed quite a few posts from people on here finding these sterile libs. OK, I'll return these badboys to nature ASAP.
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Re: Liberty Caps ID request please [Re: Anglerfish]
#27021543 - 11/04/20 02:00 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Anglerfish said:
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Joie said: I'll say it's a draw.
My gut feeling is leaning towards P. semilanceata, but the pictures don't show enough detail.
OP, next time could you please take some pictures of the mushrooms in their habitat, preferably also before you pick them? Pictures taken indoors with a phone camera like this aren't really enough for sufficient identification.
I agree with Psilocybe semilanceata, I can see it much better in the second set of pictures
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