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Oregon passes ballot measure to legalize "Psilocybin Services"
    #27021384 - 11/04/20 12:35 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

https://www.opb.org/article/2020/11/04/oregon-measure-109-psilocybin/
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Oregon becomes the first state in the nation to allow the use of psilocybin, the psychoactive ingredient of hallucinogenic mushrooms, in therapy.
Unofficial results show Oregon voters easily passing Measure 109, according to information updated Wednesday morning.

The measure does not decriminalize psilocybin. It’s still a Schedule I drug under federal rules and thus not approved for any medical uses. Instead, Measure 109 directs the Oregon Health Authority to create a state-licensed, psilocybin-assisted therapy program over the next two years and determine how it would regulate the ingredient.

Ultimately, the measure allows therapists to use psilocybin to treat chronic mental health issues like PTSD and depression. Therapists also plan to use it to reduce anxiety for patients who are dying and to help people kick their addictions.

Psilocybin will not be available for purchase in stores. It will only be available through an extensive, three-session therapy system located in a state-licensed clinic.

Sam Chapman is the campaign manager of the psilocybin-assisted therapy Measure 109. He said the measure’s support was stronger than expected in several counties.

“It’s very clear that creating new options for people who are struggling with depression, anxiety and addiction is not a partisan issue. Suffering is not a partisan issue," he said. "And I think the win that we received tonight and the support that we received tonight from Oregon voters is a testament to that.”

Less guarded supporters said during the campaign that allowing psilocybin for medical use is the first step in a long effort to make forms of the drug readily available.





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Re: Oregon passes ballot measure to legalize "Psilocybin Services" [Re: doublem]
    #27021403 - 11/04/20 12:41 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

But was it the measure 110 that decriminalized it that passed the same day? I am soo interested in becoming a producer for treatment facilities but have no clue where to start lol!


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Re: Oregon passes ballot measure to legalize "Psilocybin Services" [Re: SleepDeprivedDad]
    #27021411 - 11/04/20 12:44 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, all 4 of the ballot measures in Oregon this cycle passed. Measure 109 was Psilocybin Services and 110 was blanket decriminalization of all drugs in minor quantities, basically reducing simple possession to a speeding ticket (Class E violation, $100 fine)


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Re: Oregon passes ballot measure to legalize "Psilocybin Services" [Re: doublem]
    #27021432 - 11/04/20 12:52 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I'm gonna repost this here for some clarification:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27021352#27021352
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doublem said:
I read the bill a couple weeks ago to write a 6-page summary for someone I was trying to convince to vote in favor. Basically what would happen here is that psilocybin would be legalized in a very limited scope; specifically it would be legal to take in a "service center" under the supervision of a "services facilitator", and not legal to take or possess at any other time. (although psilocybin, along with all other drugs have just been decriminalized for simple possession). A notable point is that there is no language in the bill requiring the drug to be administered in a medical context, in fact the bill specifically forbids the Oregon Health Authority from creating a regulation requiring clients to be diagnosed with any particular illness, and explicitly stated that "service centers" will not be medical institutions as defined by state law. So depending on the precise regulations devised by the Psilocybin Advisory Board to the OHA it is entirely possible that the bill will have the effect of legalizing recreational usage as long as it is done under supervision






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Re: Oregon passes ballot measure to legalize "Psilocybin Services" [Re: doublem]
    #27021464 - 11/04/20 01:05 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

What were the other 2?


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Re: Oregon passes ballot measure to legalize "Psilocybin Services" [Re: SleepDeprivedDad]
    #27021475 - 11/04/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Measure 107: Allow state legislature to enact laws to limit political campaign contributions
Measure 108: Increase cigarette tax from $1.33/pack to $3.33/pack and tax vapes at 65% wholesale price


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Re: Oregon passes ballot measure to legalize "Psilocybin Services" [Re: doublem]
    #27021496 - 11/04/20 01:23 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

O thats right! Damn you know your shit! I should pay more attention lol


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Re: Oregon passes ballot measure to legalize "Psilocybin Services" [Re: SleepDeprivedDad]
    #27021747 - 11/04/20 03:49 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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But was it the measure 110 that decriminalized it that passed the same day? I am soo interested in becoming a producer for treatment facilities but have no clue where to start lol!





Mushroom growers/producers will have nothing to do with these facilities, this measure does not involve the production of mushrooms in anyway as far as I know.

And I am pretty certain that the facilities will not be using mushrooms at all, but rather pure psilocybin or psilocin in a capsule.





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Re: Oregon passes ballot measure to legalize "Psilocybin Services" [Re: openmind]
    #27021766 - 11/04/20 04:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Sections 23-25  are about Manufacturing licences, nothing particularly interesting just taking care of the simple fact that a legal psilocybin service center will require the services of a legal psilocybin manufacturer. Section 22 specifically allows manufacture and administration to occur on the same premises.

Section 8 (3) "The authority may not require that a psilocybin product be manufactured by means of chemical synthesis"
I suppose people could still synthesize it but why would you do that when you can just grow mushrooms instead? I'm sure it's much cheaper that way

There is a section (52) that forbids manufacturers from producing psilocybin outdoors? no idea what that's about


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Re: Oregon passes ballot measure to legalize "Psilocybin Services" [Re: doublem] * 1
    #27021775 - 11/04/20 04:11 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Imagine giant outdoor mushroom gardens like corn rows.  I suspect a good number of random people would start seeing shrooms pop up in their garden with all those spores floating around.  I think it would be kinda dope but have no idea what the dark side of things would look like.


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Re: Oregon passes ballot measure to legalize "Psilocybin Services" [Re: Amanita86]
    #27021802 - 11/04/20 04:23 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I hadn't thought of that... I know active mushrooms (and mushrooms in general) are already pretty common in the PNW, people here already have mushrooms growing in their yards all the time. I wonder if they have the potential to be an invasive species or smth

tbh I've daydreamed about loading up a drone with Psilocybe spores and crop dusting half the Oregon coast


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Re: Oregon passes ballot measure to legalize "Psilocybin Services" [Re: doublem]
    #27022428 - 11/04/20 10:29 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Nice thanks for those dude! That does make sense about no outdoor they would take over the area and image all the bums wandering around ohh man lol! But yea make a big slurry and pour around areas! You peeps rock!


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Re: Oregon passes ballot measure to legalize "Psilocybin Services" [Re: SleepDeprivedDad]
    #27022721 - 11/05/20 07:07 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Oh man. Services

So it’s just as illegal but now pharma has access


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Re: Oregon passes ballot measure to legalize "Psilocybin Services" [Re: Fractal420]
    #27022751 - 11/05/20 07:41 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Well no they bumped it down if you have what like under 12grams right? You get fined or treatment options...lol the Facebook group was talking about does that mean its illegal to pick them...I guess yes because they are in your possession but one guy said what if I just accidentally slip and fall onto a patch and they go in my mouth and thats actually legal lol... they are technically no longer in your possession so I guess if you see a cop while foraging eat your harvest to a small amount lol and also they said make sure to pick on anything other than federal land... thoughts?


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Re: Oregon passes ballot measure to legalize "Psilocybin Services" [Re: SleepDeprivedDad]
    #27022760 - 11/05/20 07:54 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Lol treatment options for mushrooms

It’s illegal to pick them in most states or every state yes, or at least dry them


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Re: Oregon passes ballot measure to legalize "Psilocybin Services" [Re: Fractal420]
    #27022827 - 11/05/20 08:41 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Lol your treatment for getting busted with mushrooms is to go to a psilocybin treatment facility


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Re: Oregon passes ballot measure to legalize "Psilocybin Services" [Re: SleepDeprivedDad] * 1
    #27022855 - 11/05/20 09:13 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Lol your treatment for getting busted with mushrooms is to go to a psilocybin treatment facility




Suppose you get caught with 11 grams of dried cubes in your possession. The limit for the $100-or-treatment option in Measure 110 is apparently 12 grams, so you go to a Measure 109 psilocybin treatment facility to get a more reasonable amount of mushrooms.  :shrug:


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Re: Oregon passes ballot measure to legalize "Psilocybin Services" [Re: sonoramo]
    #27023153 - 11/05/20 12:05 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Im glad that people like my mom who trusts the system a little too much will have the option to go somewhere safe to trip and have company that HAS to hangout with them till its over haha.

This is just a first step but can u imagine what happens once people start experiencing the truth in these clinics?


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Re: Oregon passes ballot measure to legalize "Psilocybin Services" [Re: doublem]
    #27023305 - 11/05/20 01:37 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

This is going to be great! A huge step for society and I'm sure hundreds of mother's will appreciate this haha. It is simply the tip of the iceberg. There's a two year developmental period anyway. And 110 definetly kicks ass, especially if your addicted to hard drugs. I can't wait. Where's the Oregon fam at? Let's link.


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Re: Oregon passes ballot measure to legalize "Psilocybin Services" [Re: doublem]
    #27023371 - 11/05/20 02:21 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Sections 23-25  are about Manufacturing licences, nothing particularly interesting just taking care of the simple fact that a legal psilocybin service center will require the services of a legal psilocybin manufacturer. Section 22 specifically allows manufacture and administration to occur on the same premises.

Section 8 (3) "The authority may not require that a psilocybin product be manufactured by means of chemical synthesis"
I suppose people could still synthesize it but why would you do that when you can just grow mushrooms instead? I'm sure it's much cheaper that way

There is a section (52) that forbids manufacturers from producing psilocybin outdoors? no idea what that's about





Interesting.

For some reason I just had it in my mind that people will not be eating actual dry mushrooms in these sessions at the clinics, like what has been used in all the MAPS studies/etc etc...I thought I read something about synthetic psilocin was going to be used. Guess I was mistaken.

I think there might be a way to produce psilocin/psilocybin via yeast or bacteria, I know a variety of pharmaceuticals/drugs/chemicals have been found to be easily and cheaply produced via such ways....Probably super cheap and easy to do but no doubt a patent is likely owned on the process and those who own it will want their $.


I'm super curious to see how this all comes together over the next few years.




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Re: Oregon passes ballot measure to legalize "Psilocybin Services" [Re: openmind]
    #27023445 - 11/05/20 03:10 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yea Oregonians unite! It will be crazy when skeptical people try one of these out, but there are many people who cannot handle a trip and that is why these clinics will be great to coach them through the hardest struggles and for them to wake up their consciousness instead of just sitting by a camp fire and having a panic attack by yourself because you don't want to ruin your other friends trip lol
Also heard they just fine grind the fruits and makes capsule easy to do there teks around for it or even just making chocolates is easy also


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Re: Oregon passes ballot measure to legalize "Psilocybin Services" [Re: Eatshroomsoften]
    #27024062 - 11/05/20 09:39 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Im glad that people like my mom who trusts the system a little too much will have the option to go somewhere safe to trip and have company that HAS to hangout with them till its over haha.

This is just a first step but can u imagine what happens once people start experiencing the truth in these clinics?



Yeah tbh I really believe in complete drug legalization as a principle and so was a little irritated at the restrictions in the measure at first. But then I realized that sooooo many people are just not cut out to be tripping on their own, and there would probably be all kinds of bad things happening if random people could just buy shrooms in a supermarket on a whim and take them the next day. I imagine that kind of chaos would be a major impediment towards proper legalization, whereas mandating such a controlled environment would really help to show people how safe psilocybin can be if it's understood and handled properly. And the knowledge that you'd be taking it under supervision in a licensed facility will undoubtedly help convince more hesitant experimenters to try it.

I'm also really thrilled about the fact that this measure will undoubtedly lead to a massive explosion in the real scientific research into psilocybin that we currently lack, when there is a framework in place for administering it legally without jumping through a million federal hoops.


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Re: Oregon passes ballot measure to legalize "Psilocybin Services" [Re: SleepDeprivedDad]
    #27028686 - 11/08/20 02:03 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Yea Oregonians unite! It will be crazy when skeptical people try one of these out, but there are many people who cannot handle a trip and that is why these clinics will be great to coach them through the hardest struggles and for them to wake up their consciousness instead of just sitting by a camp fire and having a panic attack by yourself because you don't want to ruin your other friends trip lol
Also heard they just fine grind the fruits and makes capsule easy to do there teks around for it or even just making chocolates is easy also



The problem is a lack of education around the potential harms of psilocybin (psychological harms). Most people know not to drive in the opposite lane because they were educated about why that is dangerous, but take a person from a culture where cars don't exist and they put themselves at great risk by driving if you don't teach them the rules.

Legalizing psilocybin in a therapeutic context and decriminalization provides a learning atmosphere for our culture to become better educated before full legalization takes place.


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