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Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms * 11
    #27020789 - 11/04/20 05:55 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Here's a bit of good news :cool:

Oregon legalizes magic mushrooms

"Oregon will become the first state in the country to legalize psilocybin Tuesday with the passage of Measure 109.

Measure 109 was passing by 56.12% Tuesday at 8:50 p.m. with 1,832,513 votes counted.

Multiple cities have decriminalized the substance, but Oregon will become the first to permit supervised use statewide if that majority holds.

The measure, backed by chief petitioners wife-and-husband Sheri and Thomas Eckert of Beaverton, will allow regulated use of psychedelic mushrooms in a therapeutic setting.

It creates a two-year period during which regulatory details will be worked out, including what qualifications are required of therapists overseeing its use.

The Eckerts, both psychotherapists, told The Oregonian/OregonLive that psilocybin could help people struggling with issues from depression to anxiety to addiction."


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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: pslyke] * 2
    #27020790 - 11/04/20 05:59 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

YEEEAH CONGRATULATIONS OREGON!!

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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Asante]
    #27020827 - 11/04/20 06:34 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

It's a trap.


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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: pslyke]
    #27020922 - 11/04/20 07:53 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

another Green Rush woohoo!

trichoderma, baby, trick all over my neighborhood, just like that, oooo.......:smile:


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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: masspan] * 2
    #27020939 - 11/04/20 08:06 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Time to preserve the heritage strains before breeding goes the way of cannabis and focuses on potency % and yield.


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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Sugabearcrisp] * 1
    #27020950 - 11/04/20 08:15 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

:awethumb: Good job Oregon, I'm jealous.


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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Psilosion]
    #27020960 - 11/04/20 08:22 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Its perfect. The therapists are going to uncover the enormous potential for healing and this will drive back the anti-shroomers into their holes!


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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Psilosion]
    #27020962 - 11/04/20 08:23 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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:awethumb: Good job Oregon, I'm jealous.





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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Asante] * 1
    #27021043 - 11/04/20 09:15 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Am I the only one who sees this as a bad omen? The way I see this playing out is the powers that be legitimize anecdotal research to get public acceptance so they can do exactly what they did with cannabis. Government permits and forms and lists. And taxes upon taxes upon fees. I doubt all to hell that home grows will ever be legal. Unless you buy from a state licensed facility we will still face jail time as if we were cooking meth. Unless the law states that these alkaloids are no longer subject to prosecution and the government steps away completely I am opposed to this new measure.

Plus genetic sterilization like Crisp mentioned.


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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: GreenHorns]
    #27021046 - 11/04/20 09:19 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

This is great news! :snoopyes:


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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: GreenHorns]
    #27021084 - 11/04/20 09:46 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Am I the only one who sees this as a bad omen? The way I see this playing out is the powers that be legitimize anecdotal research to get public acceptance so they can do exactly what they did with cannabis. Government permits and forms and lists. And taxes upon taxes upon fees. I doubt all to hell that home grows will ever be legal. Unless you buy from a state licensed facility we will still face jail time as if we were cooking meth. Unless the law states that these alkaloids are no longer subject to prosecution and the government steps away completely I am opposed to this new measure.

Plus genetic sterilization like Crisp mentioned.




I think they are going to love the taxes, and bust large growers avoiding taxes. Like weed they don't care if you grow at home but when you're selling it, they get upset they aren't getting their cut.


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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: GreenHorns]
    #27021140 - 11/04/20 10:15 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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It's a trap.



:trap:

For real though, sounds like the justification for it to be legalised is for pharmaceutical purposes


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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: pslyke]
    #27021151 - 11/04/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Now the real question is where's all the Oregon fam at?! I'm available to help! Looking to meet people close by! PM me. We got 2 years.


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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: QM33] * 4
    #27021165 - 11/04/20 10:29 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Therapeutic legalization is good.

Even if it leads to synthetic psilocybin pills for therapy, its a good thing that further anchors psychedelics as medically beneficial providing further justification for any use.


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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Asante]
    #27021171 - 11/04/20 10:34 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I hate liberals.


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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: antondogman] * 3
    #27021186 - 11/04/20 10:40 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

11 posts, no substance to them and a lot of politics. Looking forward to you starting to contributing positively to our community.


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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Asante]
    #27021193 - 11/04/20 10:44 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Therapeutic legalization is good.

Even if it leads to synthetic psilocybin pills for therapy, its a good thing that further anchors psychedelics as medically beneficial providing further justification for any use.




Justification is of no business of governing bodies regarding entheogens as far as I'm concerned.
Only if the legal use of the natural medicine is observed. I see this as the capitalization of something the law said is bad that now the law says is good as long as they get a financial draw from it. In principle this is great but in practice.... Yeah no this won't be good for us.


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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: mongo lloyd] * 1
    #27021239 - 11/04/20 11:14 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Who cares man, I want some of that lab grade psylocybin tablets that Huxley had. Im even willing to pay for them


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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Tripsurfer] * 3
    #27021250 - 11/04/20 11:19 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #27021257 - 11/04/20 11:21 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Who cares man, I want some of that lab grade psylocybin tablets that Huxley had. Im even willing to pay for them





The priginal "Indocybin" pills by Sandoz were fantastic. People could order a discreet bottle of 500 little sweetener like tabs containing 2mg psilocybin each, recommended were 1-5 of them in combination with therapy.

That was pure gold for a therapist, you could exactly tailor the dose to the patient's needs.


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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Asante] * 1
    #27021261 - 11/04/20 11:25 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Thats what Im talking about! Pure gold for me as well

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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #27021266 - 11/04/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Imagine having one of those little bottles with 500 pills in your freezer :rainbowcloud:


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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Asante]
    #27021276 - 11/04/20 11:34 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah those would go very nice with the other things I have in my freezer :cool:


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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #27021282 - 11/04/20 11:37 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like you're prepped for COVID :awecid:


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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Asante]
    #27021389 - 11/04/20 12:37 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

For sure! Tripped on acid last week (for the first time in years) so Im good for now


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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Tripsurfer] * 5
    #27021518 - 11/04/20 01:40 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Mushrooms have NOT been legalized at all by measure 109.

All measure 109 does is just let people have access to therapy with mushrooms.

Under measure 109 it is still illegal to possess mushrooms, it is still illegal to grow mushrooms, it is still illegal to sell mushrooms, and it is still illegal to consume mushrooms outside of sessions with a therapist.

Measure 109 did absolutely nothing to "legalize" mushrooms or remove penalties from possessing/growing/consuming them.




But there was another measure that passed in Oregon, measure 110, and that one I applaud and support all the way!.....Measure 110 essentially decriminalized possession of all drugs in Oregon and treats drugs as a public health issue intead of a criminal issue. So now if one is caught in possession of mushrooms, or personal amounts of any other drug, they will only get a small fine and that fine can be waived entirely simply by going to an addiction recovery center for an evaluation (instead of a jail cell). And those centers will be available in all parts of the state 24 hours a day.

In some ways, measure 110 has put an end to the "war on drugs" in Oregon :yesnod: . It's a similar model that Portugal has been using with great success for over a decade now but it's even better IMO.



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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: pslyke]
    #27021539 - 11/04/20 01:57 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Im so proud to be an Oregonian right now! :mushroom2: :awepreciation: :mushroom2:

I made the right choice living here :sadyes:

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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: openmind]
    #27021595 - 11/04/20 02:31 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

The important question one should ask it is "what does it take to become a therapist?"

Is that a protected profession or is it like being a coach? I mean everybody can be a coach after a couple hours of training. At least here in NL


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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #27021664 - 11/04/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Not protected. You could pour jugs of milk over your clients and call it Milk Therapy and yourself a Lactotherapist.


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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Asante] * 1
    #27021668 - 11/04/20 03:11 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I expect quite a boom in mushroom therapists in Oregons future :lol:


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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Tripsurfer] * 1
    #27021724 - 11/04/20 03:38 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I expect quite a boom in mushroom therapists in Oregons future :lol:





Mushroom therapists and mushroom clinic-resorts where people from all over the weekend can check in for a weekend and undergo psilocybin group therapy.


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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #27021770 - 11/04/20 04:08 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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The important question one should ask it is "what does it take to become a therapist?"

Is that a protected profession or is it like being a coach? I mean everybody can be a coach after a couple hours of training. At least here in NL





I'm pretty certain a license is required to be a therapist, tho what it takes to get that license I'm not sure. The Oregon Health Authority is what will oversee and approve licensed therapists to hold these sessions at approved clinics/places.

One will already need to have a license before they're able to apply though, it's not like anyone can just call themselves a therapist and then start charging people to come over to their house to eat mushrooms.

The Oregon Health Authority will determine who is eligible to be licensed as a facilitator, determine what qualifications, education, training, and exams are needed, etc....OHA will set psilocybin dosage standards and labeling and packaging rules.



Someone else noted tho, that in the wording & details of it all, no where does it state that a medical condition is required to have a "session" at these "clinics", it sounds like basically anyone 21+ can have access to the sessions (I'm super curious what the cost is going to be like) . So "recreational trip centers" might actually be a thing a few years down the road, but everything and everyone there will still have to be licensed and approved by the OHA.





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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: openmind] * 1
    #27021828 - 11/04/20 04:37 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: pslyke] * 2
    #27022301 - 11/04/20 08:34 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yet another thing I never thought I'd see in my lifetime. :mindblown:


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    #27022355 - 11/04/20 09:11 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

DC beats Oregon. We decriminalized mushrooms and psychoactive plants


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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: pslyke]
    #27022357 - 11/04/20 09:12 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

:offthehook:

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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: GreenHorns] * 1
    #27022472 - 11/05/20 12:07 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Am I the only one who sees this as a bad omen? The way I see this playing out is the powers that be legitimize anecdotal research to get public acceptance so they can do exactly what they did with cannabis. Government permits and forms and lists. And taxes upon taxes upon fees. I doubt all to hell that home grows will ever be legal. Unless you buy from a state licensed facility we will still face jail time as if we were cooking meth. Unless the law states that these alkaloids are no longer subject to prosecution and the government steps away completely I am opposed to this new measure.

Plus genetic sterilization like Crisp mentioned.



Meh Oregon simultaneously decriminalized all drugs and lowered felony amounts to misdemeanors... Your fears are unfounded. You're free to grow weed here untaxed and you're less likely than ever to be penalized for taking or buying drugs than ever before.


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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: koods]
    #27022473 - 11/05/20 12:09 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: GreenHorns]
    #27022490 - 11/05/20 12:35 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Am I the only one who sees this as a bad omen? The way I see this playing out is the powers that be legitimize anecdotal research to get public acceptance so they can do exactly what they did with cannabis. Government permits and forms and lists. And taxes upon taxes upon fees. I doubt all to hell that home grows will ever be legal. Unless you buy from a state licensed facility we will still face jail time as if we were cooking meth. Unless the law states that these alkaloids are no longer subject to prosecution and the government steps away completely I am opposed to this new measure.

Plus genetic sterilization like Crisp mentioned.



Exactly. They aren't legalizing it for personal recreational use, only therapeutic use from a fucking licensed dispensary or licensed psychologist or whatever. Any random person caught with mushrooms in their car after getting pulled over is still going to go to jail. And yeah here comes all the bullshit regulation and taxes just like with marijuana legalization. I can do my own fucking psychology therapy with mushrooms and myself I don't need a fucking certified psychedelic therapist who probably doesn't know as much as I know about tripping. Tripping in a clinical setting would give me a bad trip.


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    #27022499 - 11/05/20 01:06 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I know I'm a paranoid person and may be over analyzing it but yeah I just don't know about this. What is that process even going to be like? You schedule an 8 hour therepist appointment to get a dose and trip while your at the office for it to be a legal experience? I'm all for making it legal once again and nothing more. Not controlling and industrializing it.


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    #27022503 - 11/05/20 01:16 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

You guys don't get it, you can't see the long term big picture. This was always what we wanted, for it to go medical. That's what all of us have been fighting for, for a long time. That's the first step. Don't fuck that step up, and don't go too fast. We cannot afford to repeat the mistakes of the past, even if it takes longer than all of our lives, we are going to do this right. Medical first, with proper medical research and protocols, then we'll work on other things. That's the plan and it's been the plan for a long time.

And if you don't like where cannabis ended up then you just don't understand and should jump ship right now, because cannabis is the dream, and we're a very long way from that dream right now. And unless we play our cards very right, we'll never get there. How do you think it was that we managed to get cannabis legalized? Think about it.

If you like being arrested for mushrooms and LSD, then I guess we can keep things the way they are, but if you want that to change, then you need to get used to the idea of the medical use of psychedelics, and you have to keep your eyes on the long term prize. One step at a time gentlemen, nice and slow and easy. Don't fuck this up, that's the most important rule. The psychedelic movement is more important than any of us.


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    #27022509 - 11/05/20 01:29 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I see both sides of the coin but at least when California got medical marijuana, you were still allowed to grow it in your own house and still allowed to smoke the shit in the privacy of your house.


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    #27022511 - 11/05/20 01:33 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Could be. I'll be keeping an eye on the progress or otherwise. It is nice to know the stigma will eventually fade as people realize the horror stories associated with pshycidelics are just that, stories. That is progress no one can deny. I have no intention of fucking up anything I'm just not about to step out of the shadows so to speak with what I choose to do with nature because of these changes.


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    #27022519 - 11/05/20 01:58 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I really want to go back to school and finish my stem degree so I can get into the research being done on psychedelics because I think most of it is shit everyone who has done psychedelics already knows. Nothing is really new or novel in the psychedelic research realm. Another research study showing psilocybin cures headaches, something we've known since before the newest modern-day psychedelic Renaissance. Oh look another study on LSD and cognition. Boring.

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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
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I see both sides of the coin but at least when California got medical marijuana, you were still allowed to grow it in your own house and still allowed to smoke the shit in the privacy of your house.



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It's a trap.



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For real though, sounds like the justification for it to be legalised is for pharmaceutical purposes




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    #27022536 - 11/05/20 02:45 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I see both sides of the coin but at least when California got medical marijuana, you were still allowed to grow it in your own house and still allowed to smoke the shit in the privacy of your house.



The highest penalty for growing mushrooms in Oregon right now is like a 100$ ticket lol



Isn't that only if you go through an addiction treatment course? Sorry haven't read the whole measure yet just got tid bits here.


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I see both sides of the coin but at least when California got medical marijuana, you were still allowed to grow it in your own house and still allowed to smoke the shit in the privacy of your house.



The highest penalty for growing mushrooms in Oregon right now is like a 100$ ticket lol



That's sort of like how California was back in the day before dispensaries. Nearly every big Time Stoner in California back in the day got a possession ticket. It was sort of a rite of passage. If you got caught with weed you got a ticket and then you had to go to a drug class to get it taken off. I had a friend who got 2 possession tickets and I can't remember what happened but she got in serious legal shit for it. we ended up dropping acid the night before her drug class 13 years ago and so she went into drug class half tripping from the night LOL.

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It's 100$ or take a class - your pick


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    #27022667 - 11/05/20 06:08 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

can't believe i missed that OR legalized 'everything'

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    #27023018 - 11/05/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

gah, can you imagine being one of the first people to sit across from Portland PD HQ tripping, and not worrying, like truly not worrying?

hundreds of years of getting thrown in jail for a long time replaced by fresh air and cosmic dive bombing

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    #27023034 - 11/05/20 10:40 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I am stoked to live in Oregon even more now than before, and I've always been stoked about Oregon!


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    #27023201 - 11/05/20 12:30 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

If they mean therapists like psychotherapists, then that might be protected/licensed. I don't know who is allowed to give the therapy with mushrooms, maybe psychotherapists only.


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    #27023398 - 11/05/20 02:41 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Any random person caught with mushrooms in their car after getting pulled over is still going to go to jail.




All drugs have now been decriminalized in Oregon. Personal possession of any drug is no longer a criminal act. If caught with a personal amount of drug a cop might give you a $100 ticket, that's the worst thing that can happen to you.




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And yeah here comes all the bullshit regulation and taxes just like with marijuana legalization. I can do my own fucking psychology therapy with mushrooms and myself I don't need a fucking certified psychedelic therapist who probably doesn't know as much as I know about tripping.





I hear what you're getting at...I shared some of the same sentiment.

But measure-109 hasn't set up anything for a regulated and legal psychedelic mushroom market. None of that applies to measure 109.

Right now Oregon almost has my "utopian" dream of drug policy...All I want to see is the possession, growing, and consumption of plants and drugs no longer being a criminal act. In no way do I want to see full on legalization and a market that is regulated and controlled and taxed by some government agency. Decrim the plants & drugs and leave it at that.

The cherry on top is that Oregon is allowing mushroom assisted therapy to happen in a professional/regulated/clinical manner....Though such things should be allowed to happen with just decriminalization alone.





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Any random person caught with mushrooms in their car after getting pulled over is still going to go to jail.




All drugs have now been decriminalized in Oregon. Personal possession of any drug is no longer a criminal act. If caught with a personal amount of drug a cop might give you a $100 ticket, that's the worst thing that can happen to you.
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Thats basically the Dutch model and very sensible, in terms of freeing up the hands of the police, getting people adequate help and no criminal record.

Here basically a cop asks you if you will hand over the drug voluntarily.

If you do, that is that, no fine, no nothing.

If you resist it, bam! arrested, a fine, or both - the drug gets taken by force.

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What's the Dutch model for the production and sale of shrooms/truffles?


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Currently shrooms have been scheduled by our rightwing government, but truffles are a legal loophole, they are cultivated in secret and sold in the open.


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Interesting. I'm very very curious to see how Oregon is going to go about producing legal shrooms.


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    #27028739 - 11/08/20 02:35 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

They won't produce legal shrooms until it is legalized for recreational use and or medicinal use like cannabis was.

I'd hope for it to stay medical where you can go through a little process and are able to have therapy/buy them.

I'm not sure if they should or will ever become recreational and sold out of dispensaries, I'm not sure the world is ready for that step yet. It'll be a slow but fast process, similar to how cannabis sweeped the nation medically at first. I think decriminalization, allowing to grow personally and legal for medicinal use would be just fine.


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They won't produce legal shrooms until it is legalized for recreational use and or medicinal use like cannabis was.

I'd hope for it to stay medical where you can go through a little process and are able to have therapy/buy them.

I'm not sure if they should or will ever become recreational and sold out of dispensaries, I'm not sure the world is ready for that step yet. It'll be a slow but fast process, similar to how cannabis sweeped the nation medically at first. I think decriminalization, allowing to grow personally and legal for medicinal use would be just fine.




I hear ya.

I don't even want to ever see "recreational" sales of mushrooms being sold openly from stores. I mean it's cool that has kinda happened in the Netherlands (in a major grey area from what I understand, or tolerated), I get it, but that's not the direction I want to see things go and a different direction I think would be more successful . Keeping the aspect of sales from stores out of things I feel will help with allowing these plants to be "free" again and fully in the hands of the people. I think a lot more people would be alright with allowing adults to grow mushrooms/plants at their own home/property versus allowing actual stores/dispensaries to openly sell mushrooms and other psychedelic plants to those 18+.

Decrim the possession, growing, and consumption of all psychedelic/entheogenic organisms from nature and leave it at that. But I'm talking full on decriminalization where one won't even get a fine/penalty of any sort at all for possessing/growing/consuming. Making nature and altering one's mind no longer a criminal act is all that needs to be done. Doesn't need to be set up for commercial production/sales/capatali$m

Under the umbrella of that therapists would be allowed to conduct sessions with mushrooms and other psychedelics/entheogens.

Maybe allow certain stores to sell "supplies" and live plants but no active doses or things prepped for dosing...Things like spores/grow kits, cactus (whole live cactus, not dried/powder), caapi vine and chacruna, iboga, mimosa and acacia seeds/cuttings, etc etc to those 18+ . Allow those places to hold classes/workshops on how to grow mushrooms/etc and other related things in regards to growing and working with psychedelic plants.

I also would love to see things like LSD and MDMA and MDA and other "synthetic" substances that have a lot to offer fully decriminalized as well...but I'm not sure what sort of frame-work would work out for those considering the production/synthesis required and many other things.

....but the "frame-work" I have in mind and what I want to see in regards to the "natural" psychedelics/entheogens will work and is an actual possibility from my point of view.





The way Oregon has it right now, with mushroom therapy being allowed under measure 109 and ALL drugs being decriminalized under measure 110, it is pretty darn close to how I personally would like to see things and would be totally happy/content with...close but not quite...Measure 110 did decrim the possession of all drugs, but one can still get a $100 fine for possession (which can be waived entirely) and technically if one was ever caught up somehow with growing mushrooms at home or brewing up ayahuasca or making some cactus tea it'd still be something one can get charged for.

Not to discount or make less of what has happened in Oregon, measure 110 was a huge leap and I hope to see other states follow. It's great that one won't be put into a cage for possessing a plant/drug and choosing to alter their consciousness and help for those that truly need it will be made much more available (along with stigma related to "getting help" eroding away over time).






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I took a photo of my voting ballot because it was just too Historic of a Measure. Go Oregon!



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    #27028961 - 11/08/20 05:15 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Beautiful sign of the times pic, Logical_Chaos!

The times sure are a-changing.

It sounds to me like they are going to manufacture pharmaceutical psilocybin, press it to tablets like Sandoz did and distribute those to the licenced therapy facilities.


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Beautiful sign of the times pic, Logical_Chaos!

The times sure are a-changing.

It sounds to me like they are going to manufacture pharmaceutical psilocybin, press it to tablets like Sandoz did and distribute those to the licenced therapy facilities.




Yeah Im curious on the form they are going to put it in. Will it be shrooms ground up and put into capsules? Or will it be similar to marijuana with dab concentrates with Psilocybin tablets?

I cant wait to find out :strokebeard:

If I were to guess, I would predict there is gonna be three main forms: ground up and put into capsules, ground up and mixed with chocolate/treats, and extracted psilocybin tablets like you mentioned.

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    #27029401 - 11/08/20 11:40 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

We have seen what a danger human progress can be to nature. We have also seen weed change very quickly due to legal production. I believe that when shrooms are legal, they may be exploited and changed in a similar way. How will this change? Is this a good thing? We need to take our actions into account before any support of legalization.

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    #27029549 - 11/09/20 04:36 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I've seen on the Shroomery that recently a new procedure for the production of psilocybin was developed where they in a lab produce a kilo of the stuff and "which can be scaled up to industrial quantities.

So, they likely are going to go with synthetic psilocybin.

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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Asante]
    #27032421 - 11/10/20 10:29 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I think I read something about that on here awhile back. They found a way to genetically alter yeast to produce psilocybin in quantities greater than that found in the most potent of mushroom species. Cheap and efficient. Now how come something like that can't escape the lab instead of a damn virus?lol maybe they can administer it in a liquid form! Therapeutic shroom beer🀀


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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: EarthwormJim]
    #27087117 - 12/13/20 10:54 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)



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