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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: OutsideOfMyMind] 3
#27022503 - 11/05/20 01:16 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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You guys don't get it, you can't see the long term big picture. This was always what we wanted, for it to go medical. That's what all of us have been fighting for, for a long time. That's the first step. Don't fuck that step up, and don't go too fast. We cannot afford to repeat the mistakes of the past, even if it takes longer than all of our lives, we are going to do this right. Medical first, with proper medical research and protocols, then we'll work on other things. That's the plan and it's been the plan for a long time.
And if you don't like where cannabis ended up then you just don't understand and should jump ship right now, because cannabis is the dream, and we're a very long way from that dream right now. And unless we play our cards very right, we'll never get there. How do you think it was that we managed to get cannabis legalized? Think about it.
If you like being arrested for mushrooms and LSD, then I guess we can keep things the way they are, but if you want that to change, then you need to get used to the idea of the medical use of psychedelics, and you have to keep your eyes on the long term prize. One step at a time gentlemen, nice and slow and easy. Don't fuck this up, that's the most important rule. The psychedelic movement is more important than any of us.
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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: nooneman]
#27022509 - 11/05/20 01:29 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I see both sides of the coin but at least when California got medical marijuana, you were still allowed to grow it in your own house and still allowed to smoke the shit in the privacy of your house.
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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
#27022511 - 11/05/20 01:33 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Could be. I'll be keeping an eye on the progress or otherwise. It is nice to know the stigma will eventually fade as people realize the horror stories associated with pshycidelics are just that, stories. That is progress no one can deny. I have no intention of fucking up anything I'm just not about to step out of the shadows so to speak with what I choose to do with nature because of these changes.
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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: GreenHorns]
#27022519 - 11/05/20 01:58 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I really want to go back to school and finish my stem degree so I can get into the research being done on psychedelics because I think most of it is shit everyone who has done psychedelics already knows. Nothing is really new or novel in the psychedelic research realm. Another research study showing psilocybin cures headaches, something we've known since before the newest modern-day psychedelic Renaissance. Oh look another study on LSD and cognition. Boring.
I would rather hire a licensed babysitter to come to my house and do a house call while I take psychedelics in my own house. I would never want to go to a therapist's office to trip.
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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
#27022525 - 11/05/20 02:16 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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OutsideOfMyMind said: I see both sides of the coin but at least when California got medical marijuana, you were still allowed to grow it in your own house and still allowed to smoke the shit in the privacy of your house.
The highest penalty for growing mushrooms in Oregon right now is like a 100$ ticket lol
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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: mongo lloyd]
#27022527 - 11/05/20 02:22 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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GreenHorns said: It's a trap.
For real though, sounds like the justification for it to be legalised is for pharmaceutical purposes
Holy shit the icon I submitted actually made it LOL!
Watch that quality control, otherwise congrats OR!
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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: twighead]
#27022536 - 11/05/20 02:45 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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twighead said:
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OutsideOfMyMind said: I see both sides of the coin but at least when California got medical marijuana, you were still allowed to grow it in your own house and still allowed to smoke the shit in the privacy of your house.
The highest penalty for growing mushrooms in Oregon right now is like a 100$ ticket lol
Isn't that only if you go through an addiction treatment course? Sorry haven't read the whole measure yet just got tid bits here.
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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: twighead]
#27022545 - 11/05/20 03:19 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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twighead said:
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OutsideOfMyMind said: I see both sides of the coin but at least when California got medical marijuana, you were still allowed to grow it in your own house and still allowed to smoke the shit in the privacy of your house.
The highest penalty for growing mushrooms in Oregon right now is like a 100$ ticket lol
That's sort of like how California was back in the day before dispensaries. Nearly every big Time Stoner in California back in the day got a possession ticket. It was sort of a rite of passage. If you got caught with weed you got a ticket and then you had to go to a drug class to get it taken off. I had a friend who got 2 possession tickets and I can't remember what happened but she got in serious legal shit for it. we ended up dropping acid the night before her drug class 13 years ago and so she went into drug class half tripping from the night LOL.
So what happens if you get caught with mushrooms twice?
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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
#27022660 - 11/05/20 06:03 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's 100$ or take a class - your pick
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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: twighead]
#27022667 - 11/05/20 06:08 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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can't believe i missed that OR legalized 'everything'
'In the news tonight, Oregon...legalizes.....heroin and...zzzzz' and 'INThEnEWStonightMETHampHetamineandlmotHErFreakURdkcnsdklcn!!!!!!!!!!GOODNIGHT!'
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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: masspan]
#27023018 - 11/05/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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gah, can you imagine being one of the first people to sit across from Portland PD HQ tripping, and not worrying, like truly not worrying?
hundreds of years of getting thrown in jail for a long time replaced by fresh air and cosmic dive bombing
i want to hear an Oregonian's report on this new freedom, another historic milestone
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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Asante] 2
#27023030 - 11/05/20 10:39 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Asante said: Not protected. You could pour jugs of milk over your clients and call it Milk Therapy and yourself a Lactotherapist.
lacto-therapy session
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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: gopher] 1
#27023034 - 11/05/20 10:40 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Trump's gonna need that when the votes are recounted.
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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: gopher]
#27023063 - 11/05/20 10:58 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Asante said: Not protected. You could pour jugs of milk over your clients and call it Milk Therapy and yourself a Lactotherapist.
lacto-therapy session

Does not look like a nice place for a mushroom trip, but maybe thats just me
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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Tripsurfer]
#27023192 - 11/05/20 12:25 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I am stoked to live in Oregon even more now than before, and I've always been stoked about Oregon!
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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Maverick]
#27023201 - 11/05/20 12:30 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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If they mean therapists like psychotherapists, then that might be protected/licensed. I don't know who is allowed to give the therapy with mushrooms, maybe psychotherapists only.
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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
#27023398 - 11/05/20 02:41 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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OutsideOfMyMind said: Any random person caught with mushrooms in their car after getting pulled over is still going to go to jail.
All drugs have now been decriminalized in Oregon. Personal possession of any drug is no longer a criminal act. If caught with a personal amount of drug a cop might give you a $100 ticket, that's the worst thing that can happen to you.
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And yeah here comes all the bullshit regulation and taxes just like with marijuana legalization. I can do my own fucking psychology therapy with mushrooms and myself I don't need a fucking certified psychedelic therapist who probably doesn't know as much as I know about tripping.
I hear what you're getting at...I shared some of the same sentiment.
But measure-109 hasn't set up anything for a regulated and legal psychedelic mushroom market. None of that applies to measure 109.
Right now Oregon almost has my "utopian" dream of drug policy...All I want to see is the possession, growing, and consumption of plants and drugs no longer being a criminal act. In no way do I want to see full on legalization and a market that is regulated and controlled and taxed by some government agency. Decrim the plants & drugs and leave it at that.
The cherry on top is that Oregon is allowing mushroom assisted therapy to happen in a professional/regulated/clinical manner....Though such things should be allowed to happen with just decriminalization alone.
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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: openmind]
#27024306 - 11/06/20 02:54 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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OutsideOfMyMind said: Any random person caught with mushrooms in their car after getting pulled over is still going to go to jail.
All drugs have now been decriminalized in Oregon. Personal possession of any drug is no longer a criminal act. If caught with a personal amount of drug a cop might give you a $100 ticket, that's the worst thing that can happen to you. .
Thats basically the Dutch model and very sensible, in terms of freeing up the hands of the police, getting people adequate help and no criminal record.
Here basically a cop asks you if you will hand over the drug voluntarily.
If you do, that is that, no fine, no nothing.
If you resist it, bam! arrested, a fine, or both - the drug gets taken by force.
If a Dutch cop tells you to hand it over, eagerly hand it over. You'll be scott free.
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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Asante]
#27024319 - 11/06/20 03:08 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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What's the Dutch model for the production and sale of shrooms/truffles?
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Re: Oregon to be the first state to legalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: GreenHorns]
#27024322 - 11/06/20 03:14 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Currently shrooms have been scheduled by our rightwing government, but truffles are a legal loophole, they are cultivated in secret and sold in the open.
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