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I believe I've discovered a new structure on Ps cubensis. Any help on this?
    #27020670 - 11/04/20 03:27 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I've always wondered why Ps cubensis and Ps cyanescens could sporulate as to dust the top of the mushroom, but leave the stipe and rest of the cap spotless.

We know Psilocybes wiggle their gills. We know fungus is capable of manipulating the oxygen and moisture around it. They can aim their deposits and shoot them meters. They position themselves to sporulate in a more advantageous direction.

Pictured below is an exaggerated expression of an organ or something in Ps cubensis. I don't know what these are. Maybe I am looking for the wrong term? Sorry if I'm being stupid and took this way too far lol.

in this instance, the caps had started with a purple ring on the center of the cap and nowhere else. The spore rings were heavier where the pores are more abundant. Areas without the pores tended to stay cleaner. It's generally a little bit of the ways "down" from the umbo.

I don't think this is just a hapless, useless trait. I've seen other Psilocybes sporulate in this way. We get bare stems and clean edges of caps, but dark circles as if they fell from above? Or, *as if they had been ejected UP out of pores on the cap*?

I believe these to be pores on the top of these Psilocybe cubensis. All of the spores on these examples started with a dark ring near the umbo, and had these types of deposits 8-12h BEFORE spores appeared in the gills. They were all on the same sub but different collections.

These were cloned off a commercial Dutch variety and are B+. Very many more had done this and continued to do this which is why the pictures were taken to begin with.

The mushrooms were left to sporulate out the bottom, and allowed to cover the top and still didn't cover the cap. They float and fall sure but the gill dancing isn't responsible for the dark circles on top, not always. The circles did not appear when the caps were cleaned off. I think these are two separate sporulating events.


1. How does a wild mushroom have a cage of grass around it but a thick dark circle on the top? Or one fruiting inside of a pine needle bed?

2. Do those spores shoot out into the grass and needles, evaporate and regroup midair to fall evenly back on the mushroom in a circle?

2a. Why are the bottoms of pine needles and blades of grass covered in spores? Should be just the top, all the time, right?



I think gilled mushrooms sporulate out of the top of their caps. I think this expression is an exaggerated example, and it helps that they are the size of teacups.

I think Ps cyan does this. I'm not comfortable saying all gilled mushrooms do this. I'm comfortable assuming mushrooms with pores do it, too.

Help me out what is this?

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Re: I believe I've discovered a new structure on Ps cubensis. Any help on this? [Re: Adden]
    #27020709 - 11/04/20 04:32 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

The 4th photo shows really clearly that the spores are from the gills of another cap that was above it. They will often do that and leave a print even before the gills are darkened. Hope I have understood your question.


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