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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: Gypsy Boy]
#27019713 - 11/03/20 03:20 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey Gypsy, what were your dosages btw?
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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: Gypsy Boy] 1
#27019793 - 11/03/20 04:15 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wait, i'm mentally challenged?
I thought you were joking about taking it so personally.
Relax man. I clearly misread the OP and thought you had done it recently but my god man. Try some meditation.
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I'm telling u ayahuasca has a personal issue with me, I never been so fucked in my life that 1 trip
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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: Gypsy Boy]
#27019841 - 11/03/20 04:45 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gypsy Boy said: ayahuasca has a personal issue with me
Ayahuasca showed you that it is you who have a personal issue with your ego. Why is it that you are angry at the messenger? Why are you calling people mentally challenged who are trying to help? Even if you shut your eyes to it, the truth is that if you don't deal with your shadow, your shadow will deal with you.
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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: kneesocks] 1
#27019888 - 11/03/20 05:16 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well Gypsy, keep in mind, Aya is just a combination of plants/compounds, there is nothing about Aya that is for or against anything/anyone, it's a tool, it's neutral, neither good nor bad, it's what you do with it that matters most. Reminds me of this guy awhile back who kept saying Aya as well as mushrooms and other plants didn't like him, he thought they were dark or evil or something. These things simply bring out what's within oneself, the mindsets, the states of consciousness, the understandings, all of it comes from within ourselves, not from the plants, the only things that come from the plants are the personality/characteristics of the plants and the effects of the compounds within them. So there's nothing about Aya that is evil or dark or demonic or bad or hateful, anything like that is a result of the places we go within ourselves, not a result of the tool.
Also dosage plays a huge role, contrary to what some choose to believe, it's especially true with Ayahuasca. You don't wanna over do it on the Harmala side nor on the DMT side, which is why i asked what your dosages were. With Mimosa, 3 to 5 grams is a good dose, 8 grams is pushing it, 10 grams is just too much. With the Harmalas, it depends on the plant, Rue for example 3 to 4.5 grams is best, over 4.5 grams and it's too strong, with Caapi they say the dosage is usually 50 to 75 to 100 to 150 grams per dose, depending on the quality/type of vine and how far into the Harmala side of things you wanna go. Proper Aya is when you go high to heavy on the Harmalas and low to moderate on the DMT. You may have just taken too much of either plant or both.
I do recommend not giving up on the Aya though, even though you seem put off by it, i recommend giving it another go but starting low and working your way up next time. Also i recommend using Acacia rather than Mimosa, Acacia seems a little gentler, less harsh, and more mystical than Mimosa. I also recommend adding 3 to 4.5 grams of dried Lemon Balm leaf tea to the mix to smooth out/relax the come up so that things are not as intense. Another way to have a smoother liftoff/come up is by sipping on the DMT-containing tea for about 10 to 20 minutes. But yeah, when over done, Aya hits like a fucking freight train and it's not to be underestimated, it's serious business and requires the utmost respect.
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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: Sabnock]
#27019959 - 11/03/20 06:08 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I believe you, it’s ok to fear aya. I tried it once at a lower dose and was given a glimpse of something I don’t think I was meant to see. I promised her I would be back that summer, and do it properly outside with a ceremony. I never have gone back, that’s been 6 or 7 years ago. Maybe one day-
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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: Gypsy Boy]
#27020439 - 11/03/20 10:28 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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These things are weird, thats why i've grown quiet the obsession with the topic my self. I've had wildly different trips on the varies substances but non have ever really felt malicious in the way you say. Maybe i'm not sensitive to the spirits like others or they don't exist like people say or at all.
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LosTresOjos said:non have ever really felt malicious in the way you say. Maybe i'm not sensitive to the spirits like others or they don't exist like people say or at all.
Aya is a loving yet strict teacher and plant medicine. It seems people tend to have issues with Aya when they resist the experience and everything they're being shown.
As for spirits you will believe what you will. Spirit as reality is knowledge to me but I am a sensitive. I understand that it's difficult for certain people to have knowledge of things they haven't seen or experienced themselves.
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SynKyd said: I believe you, it’s ok to fear aya. I tried it once at a lower dose and was given a glimpse of something I don’t think I was meant to see.
It's natural for people to be afraid of the things they don't understand. Once you're ready for the work you won't be afraid.
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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: kneesocks] 1
#27022387 - 11/04/20 09:39 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I didn’t actually say I was afraid, I just haven’t got back to it.........mostly because of time limitations and I want to do it with respect.
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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: Gypsy Boy]
#27022619 - 11/05/20 05:11 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sabnock said: Idk, personally Aya (the analog Syrian Rue with Mimosa/Acacia root) was my first Entheogen/Psychedelic ever and i took it daily/near daily for 4 years straight, never had any issue on my part, it's my favorite Entheogen, it and Psilohuasca give me what no other Psychedelics do, primarily due to what the Harmalas add to the experience.
I think in my case its personal, spirit of ayahuasca wants tu hurt me, for some reason?
First off, chill the heck out please, no need to insult people who are just giving their opinion, and even less to imply someone else is mentally challenged for making a pretty sound post.
If I were to guess, I'd say you are putting the blame on a freaking SUBSTANCE when it is your ego dynamics that actually caused your bad trip. You have a dark side in you (like everyone does, or otherwise how'd you begin to define the so called "positive things"?). Aya might have just showed you that but you and that other guy are placing the blame on mythological creatures and evil spirits in the vine.
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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: Gypsy Boy]
#27024870 - 11/06/20 11:41 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gypsy Boy said: Anxiety ? FUCKING ANMXIETY???
I didnt even know what anxiety is until that fucking ayahuasca trip, read my first post FFS
That's bad trippin' like grandma used to make em.
I can completely relate. Its the psychological equivalent of a buttnaked motorcycle accident on hot tarmac.
People laugh and babble about bad trip this, bad trip that.
Fuck no.
When they have a proper bad trip, ONLY then do they know whats up.
Most people have not known anguish to the extent a whopper of a bad trip can give.
You can literally smilingly munch a shroomie and come out with PTSD in a trashed room like a Happy Tree Friend.
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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: Asante]
#27024888 - 11/06/20 11:50 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shits nasty..
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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: Gypsy Boy]
#27024981 - 11/06/20 12:40 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ayahuasca can have different recipe depending on who is making it. I've heard it can also have Datura in it which can give some pretty bad trips consistently. I would be curious to know if the ayahuasca you took had Datura in it.
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Well, its not likely that it had datura. But there is a chance of a turd being in there too.
Ayahausca is just powerful stuph and should be treated with caution.
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LosTresOjos is tryning to be funny 
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IlIlIlIlIlIl said: Ayahuasca can have different recipe depending on who is making it. I've heard it can also have Datura in it which can give some pretty bad trips consistently. I would be curious to know if the ayahuasca you took had Datura in it.
Na no datura, it was fucking root bark
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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: Gypsy Boy]
#27025021 - 11/06/20 01:02 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Comedy is a numbers game.
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