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Super Freak Sterile Libs??
#27019275 - 11/03/20 12:13 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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found these on my hunt today. found many sterile ones in my time but these take the biscuit! almost pure white, esp. in field (look bit more orangey in photos). bluing in 3rd pic due to it growing under another. i think gotta be bruising from pressure/contact with its mate? coz sterile don't produce any spores - is that right?
no habitat photos i'm afraid but in peaks, in pasture / typical habitat, by gate, wee flush on own but in known good Libs area (tho was stretching me legs).
done the pencile test so 99.9% sure gotta be super freak sterile libs but worth a confirm/double check i think... still fresh right now but getting laid out to dry tonight
  
 
Edited by ShroomAnon (11/04/20 02:32 PM)
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Re: Super Freak Sterile Libs?? [Re: ShroomAnon]
#27019344 - 11/03/20 12:50 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im rather intrigued.
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Re: Super Freak Sterile Libs?? [Re: 1kldude]
#27019386 - 11/03/20 01:04 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Can see some blue
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Re: Super Freak Sterile Libs?? [Re: 1kldude]
#27019414 - 11/03/20 01:13 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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1kldude said: Im rather intrigued.
Indeed. I wanna say "albino", but i don't know what technically constitutes albino...
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Re: Super Freak Sterile Libs?? [Re: 1kldude]
#27019456 - 11/03/20 01:27 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm not convinced, no obvious bluing, looks like Mycena.
Albino will lack pigment and has hyaline spore, in other words the spores will be clear lacking any pigment and the fruit will be white.
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Re: Super Freak Sterile Libs?? [Re: Doc9151]
#27020152 - 11/03/20 07:48 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I agree with Doc, looks more like Mycena to me.
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Re: Super Freak Sterile Libs?? [Re: Rafiikii]
#27020254 - 11/03/20 08:34 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm with 1kldude... I can see lots of blues. Here to learn
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Re: Super Freak Sterile Libs?? [Re: ZenZone]
#27020385 - 11/03/20 09:47 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm fairly convinced these are Psilocybe semilanceata, if so then probably albino, interesting find.
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Re: Super Freak Sterile Libs?? [Re: inski]
#27020531 - 11/03/20 11:50 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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There's at least a few in there, you won't really see mycenas with those bumpy, knobby stipes
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Re: Super Freak Sterile Libs?? [Re: Moria841]
#27020536 - 11/03/20 11:56 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moria841 said: There's at least a few in there, you won't really see mycenas with those bumpy, knobby stipes
good to know
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Re: Super Freak Sterile Libs?? [Re: Rafiikii]
#27020738 - 11/04/20 05:11 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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thanks everyone for thoughts / posts
tried to print a few of the larger caps overnight but got nothing that was visible to the naked eye
whilst not conclusive (v small sample and general trickiness printing wee libs), I guess means could have sterile libs which also might be albino
I know where I got them from and likely to try another trip up there this season. I'll see if I there are any more to grab next time out
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Re: Super Freak Sterile Libs?? [Re: ShroomAnon]
#27025022 - 11/06/20 01:02 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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ShroomAnon said: I know where I got them from and likely to try another trip up there this season. I'll see if I there are any more to grab next time out
disappointingly not out today but will persevere.
got approx. 0.2g dry - on cusp of noticeable dose for me but not enough to be certain tho. v pale in comparison to others in me collection
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Re: Super Freak Sterile Libs?? [Re: ShroomAnon]
#27025521 - 11/06/20 06:24 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Inski, I appreciate you chiming in because you have way more experience with this species than I do, not to mention that it's just good to see you.
edit: did you try to get a spore print? Should be clear (hyaline) spores
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Re: Super Freak Sterile Libs?? [Re: Doc9151]
#27026330 - 11/07/20 08:39 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20906500#20906500
I found something similar once and I called mine sexually conservative rather than sterile. Spores were present and looked normal, but were much much less common than usual.
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Re: Super Freak Sterile Libs?? [Re: Doc9151]
#27030031 - 11/09/20 11:22 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hi Doc Nada visible from the few prints i tried to take looked hard but only with naked eye
i hope to find again and have some charge in my phone when i stumble upon them next
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Re: Super Freak Sterile Libs?? [Re: ShroomAnon]
#27030084 - 11/09/20 11:45 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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You can check them out with a microscope to see the spores on the gills, It would be cool if they were. I'm sure one of us would be happy to scope them for you, but I'm far away in the Southern U.S. on the Gulf of Mexico and I think Inski is in Australia. Hit me up if you can't get access to scope or find someone closer. It won't take 5 minutes to see what they look like, I'll be happy to take a look.
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Re: Super Freak Sterile Libs?? [Re: Doc9151]
#27031635 - 11/10/20 01:18 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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i had another look, know exact spot but no joy. based on today's finds prob looking at next season now to spot them again
I'd be happy to send samples of them to better informed and equipped. kept them separate tho v dry now
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Re: Super Freak Sterile Libs?? [Re: Roger Wilco]
#27031708 - 11/10/20 02:06 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Roger Wilco said: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20906500#20906500
I found something similar once and I called mine sexually conservative rather than sterile. Spores were present and looked normal, but were much much less common than usual.
thanks RW. v interesting, wish i had more knowledge to fully appreciate the images in thread! the taxonomy is difficult - i've seen the "normal" sterile/sexually conservative described almost interchangeably as albino before which seemed wrong to me as have general orange-y appearance
these ones appear to be much more deserving of 'albino' moniker
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Re: Super Freak Sterile Libs?? [Re: ShroomAnon]
#27031719 - 11/10/20 02:11 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Super Freak Sterile Libs?? [Re: ShroomAnon]
#27034555 - 11/12/20 05:09 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Liberty Cap
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