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Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? * 3
    #27018771 - 11/03/20 06:44 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

My test results are in from the doc, and while my cholesterol is down, my blood sugar was fairly high and because of that I'm going to have a blood test every 3 months to be on the lookout in case Diabetes Type 2 develops.

To try and not get there at all the doctor's been making a case for low carb eating "not too extreme, don't count carbs just eat the right things and you should be OK".

Just now a booklet from the Diabetes Type 2 org plopped on my mat with the reminder of my doc that I don't have it, but to prevent it to occur, switch to a vegetable dominated low carb diet of preferably 3 meals a day, so I'd be so bold as to call that "intermittent fasting".

So, I'm going to conform to an increasing degree to low carb eating.

The booklet is chock full of "avoid this, choose that"s but I much rather hear from the community members who practice some form of low carb about what advices and suggestions you have, what your favorite standby's are and easy recipes.

I'm allowed unlimited vegetables its not a Very Low Carb diet and I dont hasve to count a thing, just omit and mostly omit certain foods.

I stress: I DON'T have to go into Ketosis.

What advice can you give me? Got any good links?

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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Asante]
    #27018801 - 11/03/20 07:23 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

If you're not going keto then you don't really need advice. Even people who are trying to stay in ketosis can eat 50 grams of carbs a day. If you're not worried about thaf then the basically all you need to do is not eat things like sweets and too much bread. You could get away with eating anything else just in smaller amounts. Worry about substitutes and special recipes when you're actually concerned with going into ketosis.


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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Asante]
    #27018862 - 11/03/20 08:12 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

The gas from going from low fiber to high fiber can make you feel like your hearts beating funny and bloated. You acclimate to it relatively quickly, but I would’ve taken some beano or gasx if I had to do it again.

Try to avoid starchy foods like white rice, bread and potatoes but they’re still better than processed food. Brown rice and canned black beans are an easy meal I make a lot with some seasonings. Good tasting healthy foods take longer to prep than cake and sandwiches, so I like meal prepping and making bulk spice mixes to distribute into Tupperware mini rounds. There’s an app I used to use that managed my shopping list, the stuff in my pantry, and suggested recipes based on the type of diet you’re on. I can’t remember the one I used but there’s lots of recipe apps out there that let you sort by ingredients.

Water fasting for a day or two will help with sugar cravings early on. However, during the fast you’ll be very stressed which can lead to binging. You can try it and see how you feel if you want, just have something easy and healthy on hand to prep for if you get too stressed. I fast a day or two a week right now just because it’s easier for me to be up and moving all day when I’m not bogged down with a bunch of food in my gut.

Don’t stress your body too much with a lot of exercise but make sure you get some every day. It can be a set or two of body weight squats/pushups or whatever. If you go too hard when you first start out the soreness can make it so it’s hard to move the next couple days and thus you’ll be less likely to keep the routine. Eventually, if you keep increasing intensity you’ll be able to exercise hard almost everyday while still retaining your ability to function.

Since you’re just starting out I wouldn’t worry too much about how much you eat but more what you eat. Find some healthy things you like and eat as much as you want, once the simple sugar cravings aren’t as strong you can worry about macros. It’s essentially impossible to eat too much fiber because of how filling it is


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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
    #27018887 - 11/03/20 08:25 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Low carb? Intermittent fasting? Sounds like gopher is your man. He can teach you how to wolf down 20 eggs a day for a month and you'll be the picture of health in no time.

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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Asante]
    #27018956 - 11/03/20 09:07 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Everything that grows below the ground is relatively high in carbs and should be limited

If you must eat potatoes, go for the sweet variant (you know this)

Regular white champignons have almost no carbs whilst the brown "kastanje" variant has a ton of carbs :shrug:

One of my favorite low carb dishes is cauliflower from the oven (servings depending on cauliflower size)
- Cut the florets and halv them. Put them on a baking tray with the flat side down
- Sprinkle with curry powder and drizzle with oil (we use olive)
- Bake for 90 minutes at 200C

Another oven dish that is always tasty (3-4 servings)
- Cut about 400 grams of chicken filet (thigh or regular) in chunks
- Mix a jar of red pesto with a similar sized packet of creme fraich (200ml)
- Put chicken and pesto mixture in oven dish and stir about so its properly mixed
- Sprinkle parmezan flakes on top
- Bake for 40-45 minutes at 175C

This goes very well with green beans or broccoli rice


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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Asante] * 1
    #27018964 - 11/03/20 09:11 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Ease in and do it step wise.  For me, I started by cutting out refined sugar (e.g,. I dropped candy, soda, and table sugar in coffee).  Took a bit but I adapted.

Depending on your tolerance and view, consider a sugar substitute (e.g., stevia).  I know different people react differently to these.


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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #27018965 - 11/03/20 09:11 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I would think you would still be fine eating beans and oats. Glycemic Index is about the same in both. Though unsweetened oats would be kinda bleh.


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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Baby_Hitler] * 1
    #27019040 - 11/03/20 09:38 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I like monk fruit sweetener but some people say it tastes funny. If you get a big bag of it it’s probably mixed with erithritol, which isn’t that bad but you’ve gotta ease yourself into it or you’ll blow your asshole out


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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
    #27019112 - 11/03/20 10:32 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

One thing that has stuck out in my mind for years since I read it was an essay on diet and exercise by legendary LSD chemist Owsley "Bear" Stanley. In it he makes the points about human diet being naturally largely carnivorous. Apparently he followed a no carb diet from 1959 until his death from a car accident in 2011. Many of his ideas have been expanded on and backed by more scientific study in recent years. Here's the page from his website the second section is on diet and exercise
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Asante]
    #27019140 - 11/03/20 11:03 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

My advice for you is to not starve yourself. Low carb diets are largely about avoiding this and choosing that, so that booklet likely has the information you need in order to get started. Low carb doesn't mean you're restricting yourself to one meal or two meals a day, you're just replacing the foods in the meals you eat. You're more or less going to eat a lot of meats/protein, beans, and vegetables. Meals like that are nutritionally dense and will give you a nice "full" feeling without bloating yourself up or seeing huge spikes of insulin in your body. After a few days you won't ever feel that shaky shitty "hungry" feeling in between meals once you're going low carb.

Start paying more attention to your protein, carb, and fat intake. Worry less about calories. That's going to involve reading nutritional labels and crunching numbers on a piece of paper or a spreadsheet, which might be annoying at first but it will come second nature in time. Eating below 100g of carbs a day is considered "low carb" I believe. But, you don't want to get your 100g from sodas and candy, you want to get them from whole, unprocessed foods. Source is important. Carbs aren't inherently bad for you but if you're not getting them from good sources then you start running into problems.

Also consider giving yourself a cheat day, either once a week or twice a month. It's counterintuitive but I've been low carb for almost a couple of years already and I indulge myself once in a while. You can do this without negative effects. I do this because I dislike the idea of going the rest of my life without certain foods, and I'm betting you do too. In my experience you can have an off day without consequence, so long as you return to the diet the next day.

Something else to keep in mind, is that while low carb diets are pretty restrictive, the foods you can still eat can be cooked and seasoned to have a lot of flavor. So you'll still be satisfied in that regard. It isn't a bland diet by any means. It's a diet with well defined guidelines while also not being too rigid unlike keto diets. It's worth your time I'd say.


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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
    #27019352 - 11/03/20 12:53 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Without putting a limit on calories you will gain weight when overeating on any diet


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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #27019389 - 11/03/20 01:06 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Just fully fucking stop refined carbs of all kinds and you'll drop a ton of weight and your metabolic health will improve drastically.  I'm off the wagon a little now (and 10 pounds heavier over 3-4 weeks) but when I was sticking to it was lean and strong and energetic always.  Drank only black coffee and green tea from wake up till noon.  Not a drop of sugar or sugar sub in any drink.  No shit rice or bread ever.  Nothing with added sugar.  Treats were DARK ass chocolate (3g sugar per serving) and Xylitol gum (actually really good for your teeth).  Starting at noon stuff face with Tons of veggies & meat & eggs & mushrooms & nuts.  At 8pm hard stop on food.  Drink a sparkling mineral water or two (not too many, don't want to wake up to piss)


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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: badchad]
    #27019538 - 11/03/20 02:09 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Ease in and do it step wise.  For me, I started by cutting out refined sugar (e.g,. I dropped candy, soda, and table sugar in coffee).  Took a bit but I adapted.

Depending on your tolerance and view, consider a sugar substitute (e.g., stevia).  I know different people react differently to these.




This!

Take it easy. Dont push your self too hard on start.
Just commenting to be able to remember that I have to write you about this one. But at first take it easy, but take it as Brother Terecnce used to say.

I really think that when you start to feel the changes you are going to go to full keto mode.This too can be done easy and healthy. Not only the bacon and eggs way.
Have done this now 3 years and imho getting into it can be done slowly and more comfortable way than the strict cut it down to 20g of carbs per day. This should NOT be done if one is used to eat lot of sugar/carbs. But gradually and slowly getting your body adjusted to different energy source.

Now some comedia and sleep.
You can do this:heart:
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Asante]
    #27019769 - 11/03/20 03:56 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Can you eat meats? Cause I know meat has no carbohydrates. I think its called The Caveman diet, just veggies and meats.

If its only veggies and no fruits, then I hope your cooking skills are top-notch :thumbup:


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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #27019831 - 11/03/20 04:41 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

First off you want to shoot for 6/7 days a week at home meals from mostly scratch ingredients. If you are eating lots of take out and prepared foods you will never gain control. I try to do no carb dinners about half the time because some meals just don't work without it.

When we do no carb dinners I try to add a second veggie or a big pile of mushrooms to avoid feeling hungry. Zucchini squash and cauliflower are both capable of standing in for a starch. Beets and peas are both very high in carbs, better than a side of mashed potatoes but they should not be your veggie (i.e. have them with a veggie and a protein). Spaghetti squash can replace pasta and while not carb free is much better for you. Winter squashes (acorn, hubbard, etc.) are a nutrisous starch that is better for you than potatoes and rice.

Obviously all refined sugar is out, as are soft drinks, beer and alcohol.

Ketchup has a ton of sugar, as does ketjap manis, condiments can be a hidden source of sugar.

Smart balance is pretty indistinguishable from butter but has a much better fat profile. A good set of nonstick pans can also go a long way in reducing your fat usage. An air fryer is also great when you decide to indulge.

Read all the labels on food, the difference in fat and fat type between frozen french fries can be huge as can salt and sugar content.

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Regular white champignons have almost no carbs whilst the brown "kastanje" variant has a ton of carbs :shrug:





Everything I find says that both white and brown/chestnut/cremini mushrooms are the same Agaricus bisporus species.


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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
    #27019992 - 11/03/20 06:34 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

There's no need at all to have 6/7 meals a day though that's outdated info.


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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Eminence]
    #27020000 - 11/03/20 06:40 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

6-7 meals is for carb based meals. Fat/protein based meals are supposed to liberate you from the constant hunger for a booster.

The idea is that you on carbs mostly have carb burning enzyme active, if you start eating mostly fat as a fuel you increase your fat burning enzymes vs your carb burners and once your fat burning enzymes are on a roll you dial the fat ingestion down a bit (prot the same) and you'll start mobilizing more of your excess body fat to burn for fuel, even at rest.

If you need 6 meals to stave off hunger you still are carb based, not fat based burning.

If you barely feel like eating and your breath smells and tastes like you've been sucking on a dead mouse you found, you are in ketosis and need more veggies. :grin:


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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Asante]
    #27020007 - 11/03/20 06:46 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

All you have to do is fast for 3 months.

I don't know why you don't do that.

Probly cause last a month without dying.

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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Patlal]
    #27020010 - 11/03/20 06:49 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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All you have to do is fast for 3 months.

I don't know why you don't do that.





Because I understand metabolism better - you would cannibalize your own body for muscles, bones and electrolytes. You would end up in ruin along with having lost some fat, having depleted lean muscle, bone mass and intracellular electrolytes.


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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Asante]
    #27020022 - 11/03/20 06:54 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Tomorrow I'll start with a cup of broth containing half a pound of mixed veggies with some extra virgin coconut oil and a piece of goat cheese  to kick off the diet and fuel a groceries run for some low carb goodies to assemble more balanced low carb meals.

I want to start in the morning so I deplete my glycogen while I sleep and then start eating green fatty protein to start me up.

When I started Atkins (nocarb) I lost 10 lbs of water weight in 5 days.

I'm curious what this will do.


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