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Ayahuasca trolled me
    #27019070 - 11/03/20 10:06 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Just thought id share this, happened many many years ago when i first tried ayahuasca/DMT

I NEVER had a bad trip before hand , not once. Until i tried aya.

Damn. That thing fucked me up, i wasn't ready, in fact i think spirit of the mimosa hostilis root bark turned on me, it wanted to hurt/troll me, the liquid i was injesting, after boiling bark in it, looked exactly  like blood. :wtf: I dint remember quite what happened but i got stuck into DEEP religious psychosis for about 5 - 6 hours. I thought i was devil and i needed to kill myself, jumping out the window of 4 storey building seemed like a good idea. I didnt have the urge to cut of my penis tho, some people did... :sad:

Anyway, ayahuasca u back stubbing bitch i hope u rot in the ground where u belong.


Mind you DMT extract is a completely different experience. But the spirit of ayahuasca what got to me.


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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: Gypsy Boy] * 1
    #27019242 - 11/03/20 12:01 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

What you experienced was all real. You realized that you are indeed half God and half animal. The animal side of you is where all the evil resides. We are all mini gods created by the superGod. The devil is simply a man who devotes his life to sin. Pornstars are a good example of what a 'devil' is. Perhaps your soul is tainted from casual sex, or strong sexual desire. Lust is the gateway to all sin and the root of all evil.


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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: willywanka]
    #27019253 - 11/03/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

hahahha. oh man.


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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: willywanka]
    #27019258 - 11/03/20 12:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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What you experienced was all real. You realized that you are indeed half God and half animal. The animal side of you is where all the evil resides. We are all mini gods created by the superGod. The devil is simply a man who devotes his life to sin. Pornstars are a good example of what a 'devil' is. Perhaps your soul is tainted from casual sex, or strong sexual desire. Lust is the gateway to all sin and the root of all evil.






good reply bro

i been told when u incarnate lucifer/devil is a actual part of you, and opposes good side of u or something


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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: Gypsy Boy] * 1
    #27019319 - 11/03/20 12:35 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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i been told when u incarnate lucifer/devil is a actual part of you, and opposes good side of u or something




This is the nature vs nurture phenomenon.

Sin is like a seed in the mind.

We are all born with the seed, but its up to the place you are raised to water the seed and give it sunlight.

In the United States for example, we are overstimulated with sex. Sex here sex there sex everywhere. Sex on the internet when you're 10 years old, sex in the music you listen to, sex on the billboards. Etc..

Because of this, our minds have canopies of ricin weeds growing and sucking the juice out of the soil so that our imaginations can't grow. That's why movies are shittier than ever nowadays.

The reason they do this is to make everybody slaves to the succubus. Sex is the prime motivator of the male species. We live in cities built on the wages of prostitutes. Most relationships are just sex slavery with extra steps.

Lust is the gateway to sin because;
"I want more money so I can afford a hotter bitch" Greed
"My friends girlfriend is beautiful, I'm gona fuck his bitch" Envy
"Im just gona jerk off and sleep all day" Sloth
"Work like a dog so I can buy this hot girl expensive dinner" Gluttony
"My girlfriend just fucked a black guy, I'm gona kill him!" Wrath
"I fuck so many bitches look at me I'm better than you" Vanity

Children are the closest thing to God because of their wild imaginations and lack of lust.
Deep down we are all starving children.

The only thing animals can create is a copy of themselves.
The only thing an adult can create is another slave like himself.

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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: willywanka]
    #27019346 - 11/03/20 12:51 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I see what u saying ...


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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #27019373 - 11/03/20 01:00 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I didnt have the urge to cut of my penis tho, some people did... :sad:




what? who had an urge to do that? you know somebody who did that?


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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: funky123]
    #27019376 - 11/03/20 01:01 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Damn - I am never trying this.


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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: funky123]
    #27019421 - 11/03/20 01:16 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I didnt have the urge to cut of my penis tho, some people did... :sad:




what? who had an urge to do that? you know somebody who did that?




Yea bout 8 - 9 years there was a story some dude got fucked up on bad shrooms / acid  or something and looked at himsefl when he was naked and he felt so ashamed, luciferian energy rushed thro him and he cut it off. It was in the news somewhere, and i dont think thats the only occasion, i read there was more ovr the years.


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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: Gypsy Boy] * 1
    #27019455 - 11/03/20 01:27 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

We are the ocean (the whole universe) in a drop (the holographic universe) and because of this, everything and every one and every duality exists in all of us.



Sorry you had such a hard time with discovering the Devil side of your Godhood. It is inside of you but doesn't define you.

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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #27019464 - 11/03/20 01:30 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I didnt have the urge to cut of my penis tho, some people did... :sad:




what? who had an urge to do that? you know somebody who did that?




Yea bout 8 - 9 years there was a story some dude got fucked up on bad shrooms / acid  or something and looked at himsefl when he was naked and he felt so ashamed, luciferian energy rushed thro him and he cut it off. It was in the news somewhere, and i dont think thats the only occasion, i read there was more ovr the years.




This is one of my pre-trip fears for some weird reason. I have mild intrusive thoughts ("call of the void") occasionally. It's easy to dismiss. I never acted violent or physically harmful against myself or others. But for some reason I don't trust myself when tripping. I say for some reason because I tripped many dozens of times on various substances (LSD, shrooms, DMT, 2-CB etc) and never ever did I act in dangerous ways - I didn't even ever have those kind of intrusive thoughts while tripping - not even during so far three very difficult trips. Which is why I am convinced it's just harmless mental issue. But I sometimes can't shake of the idea that an intrusive thought might get triggered upon watching violence in a movie or seeing a knife. Not very pleasant.

It's also not helping that during two of my difficult trips (on high 4-AcO-DMT doses) I truly felt like going crazy and turning into some sort of predatory animal. Plus episodes which I can't remember - nothing bad happened - but I find this to be super uncomforting. The idea of not knowing what I did five minutes ago and being worried about it before I'm sure everything is fine.

Why does it have to be like that? Trips have been almost exclusively very fun.

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But regarding your example - it's obviously statistically insignificant. Chances are this might have happened because of any psychosis-inducing drugs (alc, weed, meth, ...) or even during a psychotic episode without an external trigger.


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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: NedRise]
    #27019499 - 11/03/20 01:46 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

It would have never happend been the substance quality control and education about entheogens in place


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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: NedRise]
    #27019575 - 11/03/20 02:25 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like you are suffering from anxiety. You should try to meditate or do something difficult. It helps train the mind to be calm in adverse situations. Tripping is a way to do it since it can grab a hold of you pretty hard and you have to deal with it; it just takes discipline.


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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #27019599 - 11/03/20 02:33 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Anxiety ? FUCKING ANMXIETY???

I didnt even know what anxiety is until that fucking ayahuasca trip, read my first post FFS


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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: Gypsy Boy] * 1
    #27019668 - 11/03/20 03:03 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Psychedelics tend to bring things to the surface.


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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: LosTresOjos] * 1
    #27019674 - 11/03/20 03:05 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Idk, personally Aya (the analog Syrian Rue with Mimosa/Acacia root) was my first Entheogen/Psychedelic ever and i took it daily/near daily for 4 years straight, never had any issue on my part, it's my favorite Entheogen, it and Psilohuasca give me what no other Psychedelics do, primarily due to what the Harmalas add to the experience.


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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: Sabnock]
    #27019685 - 11/03/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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i took it daily/near daily for 4 years




did it turn you gay?


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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: willywanka]
    #27019700 - 11/03/20 03:17 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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i took it daily/near daily for 4 years




did it turn you gay?




Naw, it turned me sane, and sober.


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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #27019703 - 11/03/20 03:17 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Psychedelics tend to bring things to the surface.




Are u hard of hearing / mentally challenged?

Acting like a pro. I told u I used shrooms acid weed and other thing for years no problem, until i tried fucking aya


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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: Sabnock]
    #27019709 - 11/03/20 03:19 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Idk, personally Aya (the analog Syrian Rue with Mimosa/Acacia root) was my first Entheogen/Psychedelic ever and i took it daily/near daily for 4 years straight, never had any issue on my part, it's my favorite Entheogen, it and Psilohuasca give me what no other Psychedelics do, primarily due to what the Harmalas add to the experience.





I think in my case its personal, spirit of ayahuasca wants tu hurt me, for some reason?


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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #27019713 - 11/03/20 03:20 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Hey Gypsy, what were your dosages btw?


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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: Gypsy Boy] * 1
    #27019793 - 11/03/20 04:15 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Wait, i'm mentally challenged?

I thought you were joking about taking it so personally.

Relax man. I clearly misread the OP and thought you had done it recently but my god man. Try some meditation.


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    #27019827 - 11/03/20 04:38 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I'm telling u ayahuasca has a personal issue with me, I never been so fucked in my life that 1 trip

DMT is like a computer with hardware, stupid ayahuasca is like a bad operating system


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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #27019841 - 11/03/20 04:45 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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ayahuasca has a personal issue with me



Ayahuasca showed you that it is you who have a personal issue with your ego. Why is it that you are angry at the messenger?
Why are you calling people mentally challenged who are trying to help?
Even if you shut your eyes to it, the truth is that if you don't deal with your shadow, your shadow will deal with you.


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    #27019888 - 11/03/20 05:16 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Well Gypsy, keep in mind, Aya is just a combination of plants/compounds, there is nothing about Aya that is for or against anything/anyone, it's a tool, it's neutral, neither good nor bad, it's what you do with it that matters most. Reminds me of this guy awhile back who kept saying Aya as well as mushrooms and other plants didn't like him, he thought they were dark or evil or something. These things simply bring out what's within oneself, the mindsets, the states of consciousness, the understandings, all of it comes from within ourselves, not from the plants, the only things that come from the plants are the personality/characteristics of the plants and the effects of the compounds within them. So there's nothing about Aya that is evil or dark or demonic or bad or hateful, anything like that is a result of the places we go within ourselves, not a result of the tool.

Also dosage plays a huge role, contrary to what some choose to believe, it's especially true with Ayahuasca. You don't wanna over do it on the Harmala side nor on the DMT side, which is why i asked what your dosages were. With Mimosa, 3 to 5 grams is a good dose, 8 grams is pushing it, 10 grams is just too much. With the Harmalas, it depends on the plant, Rue for example 3 to 4.5 grams is best, over 4.5 grams and it's too strong, with Caapi they say the dosage is usually 50 to 75 to 100 to 150 grams per dose, depending on the quality/type of vine and how far into the Harmala side of things you wanna go. Proper Aya is when you go high to heavy on the Harmalas and low to moderate on the DMT. You may have just taken too much of either plant or both.

I do recommend not giving up on the Aya though, even though you seem put off by it, i recommend giving it another go but starting low and working your way up next time. Also i recommend using Acacia rather than Mimosa, Acacia seems a little gentler, less harsh, and more mystical than Mimosa. I also recommend adding 3 to 4.5 grams of dried Lemon Balm leaf tea to the mix to smooth out/relax the come up so that things are not as intense. Another way to have a smoother liftoff/come up is by sipping on the DMT-containing tea for about 10 to 20 minutes. But yeah, when over done, Aya hits like a fucking freight train and it's not to be underestimated, it's serious business and requires the utmost respect.


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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: Sabnock]
    #27019959 - 11/03/20 06:08 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I believe you, it’s ok to fear aya.  I tried it once at a lower dose and was given a glimpse of something I don’t think I was meant to see. I promised her I would be back that summer, and do it properly outside with a ceremony.  I never have gone back, that’s been 6 or 7 years ago.  Maybe one day-


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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #27020439 - 11/03/20 10:28 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

These things are weird, thats why i've grown quiet the obsession with the topic my self. I've had wildly different trips on the varies substances but non have ever really felt malicious in the way you say. Maybe i'm not sensitive to the spirits like others or they don't exist like people say or at all.


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    #27020487 - 11/03/20 11:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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LosTresOjos said:non have ever really felt malicious in the way you say. Maybe i'm not sensitive to the spirits like others or they don't exist like people say or at all.



Aya is a loving yet strict teacher and plant medicine. It seems people tend to have issues with Aya when they resist the experience and everything they're being shown.

As for spirits you will believe what you will. Spirit as reality is knowledge to me but I am a sensitive. I understand that it's difficult for certain people to have knowledge of things they haven't seen or experienced themselves.

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I believe you, it’s ok to fear aya.  I tried it once at a lower dose and was given a glimpse of something I don’t think I was meant to see.



It's natural for people to be afraid of the things they don't understand.
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    #27022387 - 11/04/20 09:39 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I didn’t actually say I was afraid, I just haven’t got back to it.........mostly because of time limitations and I want to do it with respect.


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    #27022619 - 11/05/20 05:11 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Idk, personally Aya (the analog Syrian Rue with Mimosa/Acacia root) was my first Entheogen/Psychedelic ever and i took it daily/near daily for 4 years straight, never had any issue on my part, it's my favorite Entheogen, it and Psilohuasca give me what no other Psychedelics do, primarily due to what the Harmalas add to the experience.





I think in my case its personal, spirit of ayahuasca wants tu hurt me, for some reason?




First off, chill the heck out please, no need to insult people who are just giving their opinion, and even less to imply someone else is mentally challenged for making a pretty sound post.

If I were to guess, I'd say you are putting the blame on a freaking SUBSTANCE when it is your ego dynamics that actually caused your bad trip. You have a dark side in you (like everyone does, or otherwise how'd you begin to define the so called "positive things"?). Aya might have just showed you that but you and that other guy are placing the blame on mythological creatures and evil spirits in the vine.


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    #27024870 - 11/06/20 11:41 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Anxiety ? FUCKING ANMXIETY???

I didnt even know what anxiety is until that fucking ayahuasca trip, read my first post FFS





That's bad trippin' like grandma used to make em.

I can completely relate. Its the psychological equivalent of a buttnaked motorcycle accident on hot tarmac.

People laugh and babble about bad trip this, bad trip that.

Fuck no.

When they have a proper bad trip, ONLY then do they know whats up.

Most people have not known anguish to the extent a whopper of a bad trip can give.

You can literally smilingly munch a shroomie and come out with PTSD in a trashed room like a Happy Tree Friend.


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    #27024888 - 11/06/20 11:50 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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    #27024981 - 11/06/20 12:40 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Ayahuasca can have different recipe depending on who is making it. I've heard it can also have Datura in it which can give some pretty bad trips consistently. I would be curious to know if the ayahuasca you took had Datura in it.


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    #27024994 - 11/06/20 12:47 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Well, its not likely that it had datura. But there is a chance of a turd being in there too.

Ayahausca is just powerful stuph and should be treated with caution.


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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: IlIlIlIlIlIl]
    #27025010 - 11/06/20 12:54 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

LosTresOjos is tryning to be funny :rolleyes:

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IlIlIlIlIlIl said:
Ayahuasca can have different recipe depending on who is making it. I've heard it can also have Datura in it which can give some pretty bad trips consistently. I would be curious to know if the ayahuasca you took had Datura in it.





Na no datura, it was fucking root bark


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Re: Ayahuasca trolled me [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #27025021 - 11/06/20 01:02 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Comedy is a numbers game.

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