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Fixed High Dehydrator Temp, Will It Damage The Psilocybin?
    #27018466 - 11/02/20 10:38 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

My dehydrator I am about to get has a set temp of 160 degrees.
Think this will be okay to dehydrate at?
I don’t want to lose too much potency :smile:
Also, couldn’t decide on whether this should go in cultivation or the experience. Feel free to move it if in the wrong spot :smile:
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Re: Fixed High Dehydrator Temp, Will It Damage The Psilocybin? [Re: MushroomNewbie2]
    #27018498 - 11/02/20 11:08 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

16o F is no problem. The biggest killer of potency is O2 (oxygen -air). What you want to do is dry your mushies as quick as possible, and then store them air tight -preferably vacuum sealed.  If you can afford a dehydrater, you can afford a vacuum bag sealer? The one  I am using right now is one of those 'el cheapo' hand held gizmos from Wally World. It is a bit of a pain but it does work; I think it cost less than 20 bucks (I can't remember). The counter-top 'seal-a-meal' machines are really the best way to go though. I don't remember what they cost off the top of my head though, but it's more than 20 bucks lol.

As a side note: Psilo does not melt until it reaches a temperature ~350 degrees F. Heat for a few hours won't ruin potency, but exposure to air will eventually take it's toll and that killing process starts  and doesn't stop like the heat in a dehydrater does.

Dry quick > vac seal > freeze is the best way to go IMO. I hope this info helps you rock your world.  Good luck friend :mushroom2:.


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Re: Fixed High Dehydrator Temp, Will It Damage The Psilocybin? [Re: scarabaeus]
    #27018820 - 11/03/20 07:44 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I dry in a standard dehydrator @ 160 F for 8-12 hours. I usually slice up my mushrooms so they dry faster.

They have always seemed plenty potent to me, the MS genetics being much more of a factor in their potency than using the dehydrator.

Obviously, you will lose some potency with any method as psilocin is unstable and degrades much more easily than psilocybin (thus fresh mushrooms can have a "different" feel to them as they may be more potent, gram for gram).

Nonetheless, after dehydrating, I store in an airtight container with desiccants. Never had an issue with completely bunk mushrooms. I've had trips that were weaker than others but that is attributable to MS.

But when I grind and make capsules, I've always had consistent experiences and never noticed any potency loss.


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Re: Fixed High Dehydrator Temp, Will It Damage The Psilocybin? [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #27018829 - 11/03/20 07:53 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

160f is perfect. I've never had any issues. And I do a 10 hour dry just because I had an issue with a batch not drying all the way before and I stored them and the whole jar got kinda "damp".

So now I make sure that is not an issue. They blow my socks off each time after a 10 hour dry :smile:


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Re: Fixed High Dehydrator Temp, Will It Damage The Psilocybin? [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #27018831 - 11/03/20 07:54 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Socrateshroom said:
I dry in a standard dehydrator @ 160 F for 8-12 hours. I usually slice up my mushrooms so they dry faster.

They have always seemed plenty potent to me, the MS genetics being much more of a factor in their potency than using the dehydrator.

Obviously, you will lose some potency with any method as psilocin is unstable and degrades much more easily than psilocybin (thus fresh mushrooms can have a "different" feel to them as they may be more potent, gram for gram).

Nonetheless, after dehydrating, I store in an airtight container with desiccants. Never had an issue with completely bunk mushrooms. I've had trips that were weaker than others but that is attributable to MS.

But when I grind and make capsules, I've always had consistent experiences and never noticed any potency loss.



I made capsules for my first time a few months ago. Definitely is the way to go if ya have the time.


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Re: Fixed High Dehydrator Temp, Will It Damage The Psilocybin? [Re: scarabaeus]
    #27018972 - 11/03/20 09:14 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Awesome!
Yeah I think I may invest in a vacuum sealer, especially one of those cheap handheld ones.
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Re: Fixed High Dehydrator Temp, Will It Damage The Psilocybin? [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #27018975 - 11/03/20 09:16 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

That’s great to know. Thank you!
What is your container of choice?
And the capsules, that’s an interesting prospect! I may do that.
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Re: Fixed High Dehydrator Temp, Will It Damage The Psilocybin? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #27018977 - 11/03/20 09:17 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Great! 10 hours at 160 it is. Right in between the other time recommendation on this thread too.
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Re: Fixed High Dehydrator Temp, Will It Damage The Psilocybin? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #27018979 - 11/03/20 09:18 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I’m definitely thinking of trying the capsules!
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Re: Fixed High Dehydrator Temp, Will It Damage The Psilocybin? [Re: MushroomNewbie2]
    #27019151 - 11/03/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

MushroomNewbie2 said:
My dehydrator I am about to get has a set temp of 160 degrees.
Think this will be okay to dehydrate at?
I don’t want to lose too much potency :smile:
Also, couldn’t decide on whether this should go in cultivation or the experience. Feel free to move it if in the wrong spot :smile:
Cheers!




Have you thought about using Google before opening new threads with very basic questions?

Here's how you do it: "[search term] site:shroomery.org".


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Re: Fixed High Dehydrator Temp, Will It Damage The Psilocybin? [Re: funky123]
    #27019176 - 11/03/20 11:24 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Hey dude...
thanks for letting me know. I’ve tried that trick before. For me I’ve found a lot of conflicting information there. Many different threads from the early days of shroomery to about now. With asking these questions myself I’ve found I get direct answers that often are not conflicting and current. With this being my first grow I like to get info that is very current and I can phrase my questions the way I exactly want and need.
I just hope I wasn’t disturbing too many people, a lot seemed very willing to answer my basic questions :smile:
That being said, I’ll chill on the questions, do more research, and I was just trying to get the most current and least conflicting  information I could :smile:
Cheers and good vibes :mushroom2:


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Re: Fixed High Dehydrator Temp, Will It Damage The Psilocybin? [Re: MushroomNewbie2]
    #27019193 - 11/03/20 11:34 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

MushroomNewbie2 said:
Hey dude...
thanks for letting me know. I’ve tried that trick before. For me I’ve found a lot of conflicting information there. Many different threads from the early days of shroomery to about now. With asking these questions myself I’ve found I get direct answers that often are not conflicting and current. With this being my first grow I like to get info that is very current and I can phrase my questions the way I exactly want and need.
I just hope I wasn’t disturbing too many people, a lot seemed very willing to answer my basic questions :smile:
That being said, I’ll chill on the questions, do more research, and I was just trying to get the most current and least conflicting  information I could :smile:
Cheers and good vibes :mushroom2:




It's okay, I like that approach. In my humble opinion, though, a more productive way to go about it would be to gather some of the conflicting info and ask about that specifically. Buy just asking the same question again you'll get just a random rehash of answers from people who have no real clue as well.

The working theory is: Psilocybin is broken down somewhere north of 200°C (so dehydrating with heat is not a problem).

But - yeah, I'm also not happy with the overly casual approach to such subjects. Here's my take on this question: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26959933#26959933


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Re: Fixed High Dehydrator Temp, Will It Damage The Psilocybin? [Re: funky123]
    #27019214 - 11/03/20 11:44 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I’ll start doing that, that’s a great idea and a much more productive way to get answers. Thank you :smile:
And thank you for linking your take!
I’m learning both cultivating and being a part of the shroom community. It’s a learning curve for both.
Cheers!


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Re: Fixed High Dehydrator Temp, Will It Damage The Psilocybin? [Re: MushroomNewbie2]
    #27019245 - 11/03/20 12:01 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

The drying time varies, if you have your dehydrator stacked then check on them at 10h then check on them every hour until dry.


Anything under 50g wet i usually only go for about 6-8 hours on my dehydrator. Anything over will take at least 10h. You just have to get to know your equipment. And like was said here no need to worry about the temp on it.


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Re: Fixed High Dehydrator Temp, Will It Damage The Psilocybin? [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #27019663 - 11/03/20 03:00 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for sharing the info!!
Cheers! :mushroom2:


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