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Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? 3
#27018771 - 11/03/20 06:44 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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My test results are in from the doc, and while my cholesterol is down, my blood sugar was fairly high and because of that I'm going to have a blood test every 3 months to be on the lookout in case Diabetes Type 2 develops.
To try and not get there at all the doctor's been making a case for low carb eating "not too extreme, don't count carbs just eat the right things and you should be OK".
Just now a booklet from the Diabetes Type 2 org plopped on my mat with the reminder of my doc that I don't have it, but to prevent it to occur, switch to a vegetable dominated low carb diet of preferably 3 meals a day, so I'd be so bold as to call that "intermittent fasting".
So, I'm going to conform to an increasing degree to low carb eating.
The booklet is chock full of "avoid this, choose that"s but I much rather hear from the community members who practice some form of low carb about what advices and suggestions you have, what your favorite standby's are and easy recipes.
I'm allowed unlimited vegetables its not a Very Low Carb diet and I dont hasve to count a thing, just omit and mostly omit certain foods.
I stress: I DON'T have to go into Ketosis.
What advice can you give me? Got any good links?
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Asante]
#27018801 - 11/03/20 07:23 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you're not going keto then you don't really need advice. Even people who are trying to stay in ketosis can eat 50 grams of carbs a day. If you're not worried about thaf then the basically all you need to do is not eat things like sweets and too much bread. You could get away with eating anything else just in smaller amounts. Worry about substitutes and special recipes when you're actually concerned with going into ketosis.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Asante]
#27018862 - 11/03/20 08:12 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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The gas from going from low fiber to high fiber can make you feel like your hearts beating funny and bloated. You acclimate to it relatively quickly, but I would’ve taken some beano or gasx if I had to do it again.
Try to avoid starchy foods like white rice, bread and potatoes but they’re still better than processed food. Brown rice and canned black beans are an easy meal I make a lot with some seasonings. Good tasting healthy foods take longer to prep than cake and sandwiches, so I like meal prepping and making bulk spice mixes to distribute into Tupperware mini rounds. There’s an app I used to use that managed my shopping list, the stuff in my pantry, and suggested recipes based on the type of diet you’re on. I can’t remember the one I used but there’s lots of recipe apps out there that let you sort by ingredients.
Water fasting for a day or two will help with sugar cravings early on. However, during the fast you’ll be very stressed which can lead to binging. You can try it and see how you feel if you want, just have something easy and healthy on hand to prep for if you get too stressed. I fast a day or two a week right now just because it’s easier for me to be up and moving all day when I’m not bogged down with a bunch of food in my gut.
Don’t stress your body too much with a lot of exercise but make sure you get some every day. It can be a set or two of body weight squats/pushups or whatever. If you go too hard when you first start out the soreness can make it so it’s hard to move the next couple days and thus you’ll be less likely to keep the routine. Eventually, if you keep increasing intensity you’ll be able to exercise hard almost everyday while still retaining your ability to function.
Since you’re just starting out I wouldn’t worry too much about how much you eat but more what you eat. Find some healthy things you like and eat as much as you want, once the simple sugar cravings aren’t as strong you can worry about macros. It’s essentially impossible to eat too much fiber because of how filling it is
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
#27018887 - 11/03/20 08:25 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Low carb? Intermittent fasting? Sounds like gopher is your man. He can teach you how to wolf down 20 eggs a day for a month and you'll be the picture of health in no time.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Asante]
#27018956 - 11/03/20 09:07 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Everything that grows below the ground is relatively high in carbs and should be limited
If you must eat potatoes, go for the sweet variant (you know this)
Regular white champignons have almost no carbs whilst the brown "kastanje" variant has a ton of carbs 
One of my favorite low carb dishes is cauliflower from the oven (servings depending on cauliflower size) - Cut the florets and halv them. Put them on a baking tray with the flat side down - Sprinkle with curry powder and drizzle with oil (we use olive) - Bake for 90 minutes at 200C
Another oven dish that is always tasty (3-4 servings) - Cut about 400 grams of chicken filet (thigh or regular) in chunks - Mix a jar of red pesto with a similar sized packet of creme fraich (200ml) - Put chicken and pesto mixture in oven dish and stir about so its properly mixed - Sprinkle parmezan flakes on top - Bake for 40-45 minutes at 175C
This goes very well with green beans or broccoli rice
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Asante] 1
#27018964 - 11/03/20 09:11 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ease in and do it step wise. For me, I started by cutting out refined sugar (e.g,. I dropped candy, soda, and table sugar in coffee). Took a bit but I adapted.
Depending on your tolerance and view, consider a sugar substitute (e.g., stevia). I know different people react differently to these.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Tripsurfer]
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I would think you would still be fine eating beans and oats. Glycemic Index is about the same in both. Though unsweetened oats would be kinda bleh.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Baby_Hitler] 1
#27019040 - 11/03/20 09:38 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I like monk fruit sweetener but some people say it tastes funny. If you get a big bag of it it’s probably mixed with erithritol, which isn’t that bad but you’ve gotta ease yourself into it or you’ll blow your asshole out
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
#27019112 - 11/03/20 10:32 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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One thing that has stuck out in my mind for years since I read it was an essay on diet and exercise by legendary LSD chemist Owsley "Bear" Stanley. In it he makes the points about human diet being naturally largely carnivorous. Apparently he followed a no carb diet from 1959 until his death from a car accident in 2011. Many of his ideas have been expanded on and backed by more scientific study in recent years. Here's the page from his website the second section is on diet and exercise http://www.thebear.org/essays1.html
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Asante]
#27019140 - 11/03/20 11:03 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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My advice for you is to not starve yourself. Low carb diets are largely about avoiding this and choosing that, so that booklet likely has the information you need in order to get started. Low carb doesn't mean you're restricting yourself to one meal or two meals a day, you're just replacing the foods in the meals you eat. You're more or less going to eat a lot of meats/protein, beans, and vegetables. Meals like that are nutritionally dense and will give you a nice "full" feeling without bloating yourself up or seeing huge spikes of insulin in your body. After a few days you won't ever feel that shaky shitty "hungry" feeling in between meals once you're going low carb.
Start paying more attention to your protein, carb, and fat intake. Worry less about calories. That's going to involve reading nutritional labels and crunching numbers on a piece of paper or a spreadsheet, which might be annoying at first but it will come second nature in time. Eating below 100g of carbs a day is considered "low carb" I believe. But, you don't want to get your 100g from sodas and candy, you want to get them from whole, unprocessed foods. Source is important. Carbs aren't inherently bad for you but if you're not getting them from good sources then you start running into problems.
Also consider giving yourself a cheat day, either once a week or twice a month. It's counterintuitive but I've been low carb for almost a couple of years already and I indulge myself once in a while. You can do this without negative effects. I do this because I dislike the idea of going the rest of my life without certain foods, and I'm betting you do too. In my experience you can have an off day without consequence, so long as you return to the diet the next day.
Something else to keep in mind, is that while low carb diets are pretty restrictive, the foods you can still eat can be cooked and seasoned to have a lot of flavor. So you'll still be satisfied in that regard. It isn't a bland diet by any means. It's a diet with well defined guidelines while also not being too rigid unlike keto diets. It's worth your time I'd say.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
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Without putting a limit on calories you will gain weight when overeating on any diet
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Tripsurfer]
#27019389 - 11/03/20 01:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just fully fucking stop refined carbs of all kinds and you'll drop a ton of weight and your metabolic health will improve drastically. I'm off the wagon a little now (and 10 pounds heavier over 3-4 weeks) but when I was sticking to it was lean and strong and energetic always. Drank only black coffee and green tea from wake up till noon. Not a drop of sugar or sugar sub in any drink. No shit rice or bread ever. Nothing with added sugar. Treats were DARK ass chocolate (3g sugar per serving) and Xylitol gum (actually really good for your teeth). Starting at noon stuff face with Tons of veggies & meat & eggs & mushrooms & nuts. At 8pm hard stop on food. Drink a sparkling mineral water or two (not too many, don't want to wake up to piss)
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: badchad]
#27019538 - 11/03/20 02:09 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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badchad said: Ease in and do it step wise. For me, I started by cutting out refined sugar (e.g,. I dropped candy, soda, and table sugar in coffee). Took a bit but I adapted.
Depending on your tolerance and view, consider a sugar substitute (e.g., stevia). I know different people react differently to these.
This!
Take it easy. Dont push your self too hard on start. Just commenting to be able to remember that I have to write you about this one. But at first take it easy, but take it as Brother Terecnce used to say.
I really think that when you start to feel the changes you are going to go to full keto mode.This too can be done easy and healthy. Not only the bacon and eggs way. Have done this now 3 years and imho getting into it can be done slowly and more comfortable way than the strict cut it down to 20g of carbs per day. This should NOT be done if one is used to eat lot of sugar/carbs. But gradually and slowly getting your body adjusted to different energy source.
Now some comedia and sleep. You can do this Probably a choice you will not regret
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Asante]
#27019769 - 11/03/20 03:56 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Can you eat meats? Cause I know meat has no carbohydrates. I think its called The Caveman diet, just veggies and meats.
If its only veggies and no fruits, then I hope your cooking skills are top-notch
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Tripsurfer]
#27019831 - 11/03/20 04:41 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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First off you want to shoot for 6/7 days a week at home meals from mostly scratch ingredients. If you are eating lots of take out and prepared foods you will never gain control. I try to do no carb dinners about half the time because some meals just don't work without it.
When we do no carb dinners I try to add a second veggie or a big pile of mushrooms to avoid feeling hungry. Zucchini squash and cauliflower are both capable of standing in for a starch. Beets and peas are both very high in carbs, better than a side of mashed potatoes but they should not be your veggie (i.e. have them with a veggie and a protein). Spaghetti squash can replace pasta and while not carb free is much better for you. Winter squashes (acorn, hubbard, etc.) are a nutrisous starch that is better for you than potatoes and rice.
Obviously all refined sugar is out, as are soft drinks, beer and alcohol.
Ketchup has a ton of sugar, as does ketjap manis, condiments can be a hidden source of sugar.
Smart balance is pretty indistinguishable from butter but has a much better fat profile. A good set of nonstick pans can also go a long way in reducing your fat usage. An air fryer is also great when you decide to indulge.
Read all the labels on food, the difference in fat and fat type between frozen french fries can be huge as can salt and sugar content.
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Tripsurfer said: Regular white champignons have almost no carbs whilst the brown "kastanje" variant has a ton of carbs 
Everything I find says that both white and brown/chestnut/cremini mushrooms are the same Agaricus bisporus species.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
#27019992 - 11/03/20 06:34 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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There's no need at all to have 6/7 meals a day though that's outdated info.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Eminence]
#27020000 - 11/03/20 06:40 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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6-7 meals is for carb based meals. Fat/protein based meals are supposed to liberate you from the constant hunger for a booster.
The idea is that you on carbs mostly have carb burning enzyme active, if you start eating mostly fat as a fuel you increase your fat burning enzymes vs your carb burners and once your fat burning enzymes are on a roll you dial the fat ingestion down a bit (prot the same) and you'll start mobilizing more of your excess body fat to burn for fuel, even at rest.
If you need 6 meals to stave off hunger you still are carb based, not fat based burning.
If you barely feel like eating and your breath smells and tastes like you've been sucking on a dead mouse you found, you are in ketosis and need more veggies.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Asante]
#27020007 - 11/03/20 06:46 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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All you have to do is fast for 3 months.
I don't know why you don't do that.
Probly cause last a month without dying.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Patlal]
#27020010 - 11/03/20 06:49 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Patlal said: All you have to do is fast for 3 months.
I don't know why you don't do that.
Because I understand metabolism better - you would cannibalize your own body for muscles, bones and electrolytes. You would end up in ruin along with having lost some fat, having depleted lean muscle, bone mass and intracellular electrolytes.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Asante]
#27020022 - 11/03/20 06:54 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tomorrow I'll start with a cup of broth containing half a pound of mixed veggies with some extra virgin coconut oil and a piece of goat cheese to kick off the diet and fuel a groceries run for some low carb goodies to assemble more balanced low carb meals.
I want to start in the morning so I deplete my glycogen while I sleep and then start eating green fatty protein to start me up.
When I started Atkins (nocarb) I lost 10 lbs of water weight in 5 days.
I'm curious what this will do.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Asante]
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Patlal said: All you have to do is fast for 3 months.
I don't know why you don't do that.
Because I understand metabolism better - you would cannibalize your own body for muscles, bones and electrolytes. You would end up in ruin along with having lost some fat, having depleted lean muscle, bone mass and intracellular electrolytes.
No, you would die because that was the joke.
Then you went and got CSI on my ass.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Eminence]
#27020058 - 11/03/20 07:11 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Eminence said: There's no need at all to have 6/7 meals a day though that's outdated info.
I was referring to 6 out of 7 days in the week, as in 1 dinner and 1 lunch take out/fast food/sit down restaurant.
Sorry I can understand that I wasn't clear in my post. I will edit it.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Asante]
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Asante said: Tomorrow I'll start with a cup of broth containing half a pound of mixed veggies with some extra virgin coconut oil and a piece of goat cheese to kick off the diet and fuel a groceries run for some low carb goodies to assemble more balanced low carb meals.
I want to start in the morning so I deplete my glycogen while I sleep and then start eating green fatty protein to start me up.
When I started Atkins (nocarb) I lost 10 lbs of water weight in 5 days.
I'm curious what this will do.
Asante my breakfast everydag is a 1/3cup organic oats, 1/2cup skim milk, 1 tablespoon slivered almonds, 1 tablespoon golden raisins and a shake of salt, 2 minutes 15 seconds in the microwave, add a tablespoon of smartbalance, stir and let sit 5 minutes.
It is not low carb, but you need some simple carbs at the start of your day and protein, also 1/3 of a cup is less than the 1/2 cup standard serving. Plus you need the fiber.
Lower the carbs as the day goes on and you need less energy. Salad with protein for lunch then protein, green leafy veggie plus a second veggie or high nutrition value starch like beets or squash.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Asante]
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badchad said: Ease in and do it step wise. For me, I started by cutting out refined sugar (e.g,. I dropped candy, soda, and table sugar in coffee). Took a bit but I adapted.
I second doing things slowly, since changing your diet shouldn't be stressful. Stress would contribute it's own negative effects on the body. So, choose 1 thing, no more than 2 each day that you feel inspired to do that would help your diet. Small, achievable things every day.
I'm day 2 cutting out refined white sugar. Wishing you luck, we can do this together!
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said: All you have to do is fast for 3 months.
I don't know why you don't do that.
Because I understand metabolism better - you would cannibalize your own body for muscles, bones and electrolytes. You would end up in ruin along with having lost some fat, having depleted lean muscle, bone mass and intracellular electrolytes.
No, you would die because that was the joke.
Then you went and got CSI on my ass.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Asante]
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fuel > goodies
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Sugabearcrisp] 1
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Kastanje Champignons Energie 130 kJ (30 kcal) Vet 0.1 g Waarvan verzadigd 0 g Totaal onverzadigde vetzuren 0 g Koolhydraten 4.5 g Waarvan suikers 1.5 g Voedingsvezel 0.6 g Eiwitten 2.5 g
White Mushrooms Energie 80 kJ (19 kcal) Vet 0.5 g Waarvan verzadigd 0.1 g Totaal onverzadigde vetzuren 0.3 g Koolhydraten 0.4 g Waarvan suikers 0.2 g Voedingsvezel 1.5 g Eiwitten 2.5 g
Sorry its in Ducth but I think its pretty clear. 4,5gram carbs vs 0.4 gram carbs
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Tripsurfer]
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Buy fresh fruit. Anytime you have cravings for sugar, grab a handful of blueberries, slices of watermelon, eat an orange, etc.
Just cut out processed foods and unnecessary breads as much as is reasonable. If you don't buy it, it can't tempt you.
My diet is pretty well rounded. When I visit family sugar and processed foods are so present and available its difficult to resist by day 2.
But at home there isn't even the attraction because it's not present and in my face. When I go to the grocery store, most of what I get is from the produce and meat section. All the packaged stuff I buy is more than likely an ingredient rather than something to snack on passively.
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Some healthy ex’s I like very much:
Grilled cauliflower (instead of pasta) , seasoned as you like it, low sodium tomato sauce, cheese topping, and some grilled chicken. It fills my desire for many of the varied pasta based dishes I grew up eating regularly.
Another thing, tempura everything! Mushrooms, veggies, etc - using a super lite (seasoned) batter and also consuming a minimal amount of the oil.
Grilled chicken or salmon alone as main dishes or with a good lettuce/kale/arugula/spinach leaf with lots of good veggies thrown into the mix!
Hot pots! So versatile, so good!
Squash soup. Sweet potato soup Etc etc
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Squash and sweet potatoe have a whole bunch of carbs. Better than pasta or rice but still a lot of carbs
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I don't have it, but to prevent it to occur, switch to a vegetable dominated low carb diet of preferably 3 meals a day, so I'd be so bold as to call that "intermittent fasting".
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Tripsurfer said: Kastanje Champignons Energie 130 kJ (30 kcal) Vet 0.1 g Waarvan verzadigd 0 g Totaal onverzadigde vetzuren 0 g Koolhydraten 4.5 g Waarvan suikers 1.5 g Voedingsvezel 0.6 g Eiwitten 2.5 g
White Mushrooms Energie 80 kJ (19 kcal) Vet 0.5 g Waarvan verzadigd 0.1 g Totaal onverzadigde vetzuren 0.3 g Koolhydraten 0.4 g Waarvan suikers 0.2 g Voedingsvezel 1.5 g Eiwitten 2.5 g
Sorry its in Ducth but I think its pretty clear. 4,5gram carbs vs 0.4 gram carbs
So much for "A Cube Is A Cube" thats a tenfold difference in chestnut buttons and regular white button mushrooms.
Thanks for that, I really wouldnt have suspected.
Wolfed down my veggie marsh and my goats cheese.
Urgh, the potent taste of goats cheese is more something for later in the day, I'm gonna go with quark tomorrow.
But my first (very) low carb breakfast is a success. Right now I got the music in me, or at least 500 kcal, enough for a grocery run.
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Dead mouse? Lol maybe some people get it that bad. For me it's more like the taste of sucking on a penny, which I don't have anymore. But people can eat plenty of vegetables and remain in ketosis. I am not a big fruit fan but I really love some vegetables like squash or spinach or peppers, things like that. I ate tons of those when I was focused on keto and never fell out of ketosis. Now though I don't really "try" to stay in ketosis, I just do, because my tastes are naturally for fat and protein and the kinds of vegetables I mentioned. I do really like not being hungry throughout the day though. Very convenient. But after all these years of being low carb, even small amounts of sugar fuck me up. I ate 3 regular sized candy bars on Halloween which is more than I've had in the entire year combined, and man, the diarrhea mixed with constipation was hell. I passed out like 90 minutes afterwards too
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Dude I looove goat cheese. I have a pet goat, been thinking of getting a male for her and eventually making my own lol. It is strong though. I usually reserve breads and things like that for once or twice a week, usually homemade from sourdough starter, I really like goat cheese on sourbread toast with something like tapenade on top, or sun dried tomatoes.
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This was an improvised meal, so the goats cheese served as a lactose free source of goat fat and protein and the veggie marsh served to get fiber and micronutrients in.
I'm in the process now.
I notice an unrest in my body, sweat-prone, bowels rumble and I pee more, all good things, the body is shifting from carb burning mode towards fat burning mode and with it expels the excess fluids of carb metabolism and the crap of carb based foods.
I drink plenty of water.
Just did a shopping run.
A bigass cauliflower, broccoli, winter carrot, and dark red bell pepper which I intend to lightly cook and puree, then freeze portions of, three half liters of full fat quark, 30 eggs, two boursin and blueberries.
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You might be interested in "The Fat of the Land" by Vilhjalmur Stefansson, its one of the sources for the Bears ideas http://www.highsteaks.com/the-fat-of-the-land-not-by-bread-alone-vilhjalmur-stefansson.pdf
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Thats a point of contention, traditionally very low carb diets never had a limit on calories, limiting calories on a "keto" diet is a modern thing, like the Pennington diet from the 50's was unrestricted in calories and and was very successful, basically if this interests you look into the hormonal theory of obesity, in a nutshell its hormones, not calories that drive obesity and a calorie is not a calorie, different calories trigger vastly different hormonal responses within the body, hormones dictate how much (Insulin) and where(Lipoprotein Lipase,not a hormone, but still) you store fat, they dictate if you feel hungry (Grehlin) or feel full (Peptide YY, Leptin), gallons of black coffee may have the same calories as a small soda pop, but even if you could drink gallons of black coffee it wouldnt put the same amount of fat on you as the HFCS in the soda pop
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Patlal said: All you have to do is fast for 3 months.
I don't know why you don't do that.
Because I understand metabolism better - you would cannibalize your own body for muscles, bones and electrolytes. You would end up in ruin along with having lost some fat, having depleted lean muscle, bone mass and intracellular electrolytes.
Well theres not a lot of modern studies done on long ass fasts, that was a thing of the 60's to fast skinny people for 90 days and then give them a shot of insulin just to see what happens lol, but there are a bunch of modern studies on Alternate Day Fasting vs Calorie Restriction, and the ADF out-preforms CR in preserving lean muscle mass, nature didnt make us store fat so we would just burn muscle when the chips are down, one bad winter would make us pretty useless if it did
https://www.dietdoctor.com/fasting-muscle-mass
back to the OP, if you are reducing carbs you need to increase fat or protein and protein should remain constant over any diet you are on so that leaves increasing fat, you seem to be on the right track drizzling oil and adding cheese to your veggies
I read in one of my books that was talking about pre-atkins low carb diets one of the doctors had a term "5% vegetables", that is vegetables that are 5% carbohydrates by weight, I found one single link on DDG talking about this, they have a list of fruits and veggies that are 5% carbs by weight https://theyerfitness.wordpress.com/2012/11/29/foods-with-5-carbs-or-less/
I know you have a ton of carby foods like rice and lentils and oatmeal, I would suggest you dont mix it in with the keto foods, you pick one or two days a week to be high carb days, and eat as close to keto as you can the other 5-6 days, that should keep you in ketosis like 2-3 days a week
and maybe eat on a 16:8 intermittent fasting schedule, only eat between noon and 8pm, I never had much luck on that schedule infact I have been doing ADF for the last 6 or 7 months and I have somehow plateaued eating every other day, for the last 3 months, I fluctuate between 160-165, but check out https://www.reddit.com/r/intermittentfasting/ the front page is full of progress pics of people dropping tons of weight since they started a 16:8 schedule, im envious they have it so easy, meanwhile I do a 42 day fast and only drop 20 pounds when the water weight came back
even if you dont want to do a 16:8 I recommend that everyone go at least 12 hours fasting window, eat between 8am-8pm, the longer you are out of a insulin dominate state, the healthier you will be overall, one of the proposed names for syndrome X was insulin-resistance syndrome, before they ultimately went with metabolic syndrome
heres a good video of a doctor lecturing other doctors on his diabetes theories, its a good watch
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: gopher]
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I was starting to get a bit sick just now, "hunger sick", which I get when my glycogen depletes.
I countered it with an avocado and a bit of full fat quark.
That cured it, mostly.
My body is struggling to switch to fat burning mode, to switch from the solid rocket boosters (carb) to the main liquid fuel (fat)
Its all like "OMG HE KEEPS EATING FAT AND WE GOT SO MUCH OF IT ALREADY" while it unlocks the survival mechanism of ketosis.
My breath is already a bit smelly so I guess that if I were to test strip I'd be somewhat positive for ketosis, I remember from having done 1970s style Atkins that a peculiarity in breath odor is indicative of ketosis as good as the strips - I smell the ketones.
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the urine strips suck, takes me 4-5 days of fasting to show colour on the urine strips, but the blood strips I hit 0.5 (low ketosis) by 48 hours of fasting
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I have a big voracious body, I rip through my storage of glycogen in half a day if I dont eat carbs. So fast, I get sick. The sickness is temporary though, then fat burning ensues, the sickness and hunger fade.
Its a very bad feeling tho, carb shortage, reminiscent of my heart attack
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#27021027 - 11/04/20 09:03 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I try to eat a lot of peanuts, cashews and walnuts. High fiber, protein and good fats. Walnuts are very low in carbs. The best part is that while high in calories, nuts do fill you up and stop the hunger.
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pecans are what I used to boost my calorie count while I was getting full off of 1000 calories of eggs, I think they are lower in carbs then walnuts IIRC, I bought both pecans and walnuts
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I used to get that hunger sickness too. I didn’t get it if I stopped eating after 3ish though, slept right through that shit
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#27021061 - 11/04/20 09:29 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have been doing strict keto for three weeks now, but didnt during a couple day trip last week. Been switching back for almost a week now
The transition always makes me feel kinda shitty, but no hunger
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#27021313 - 11/04/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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OP asked for recipe ideas, heres one from the carnivore world, but you can make it even better with keto, alfredo sauce, the carnivores like it cause you can just make it from whipping cream, butter and parmigianno reggiano, but on keto you could add garlic and spices too, you can use it to dip lean meat like chicken or shrimp into to add more fat with great flavour, I plan to make it next time im at my gf's house, she wants fettuccine, ill probably get a rotisserie chicken to dip mine in and skip the noodles
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#27021386 - 11/04/20 12:36 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Low carb Lasagna
- 400 gram mushrooms (the white ones) - Little bit of onion - 800 grams broccoli rice or 50/50 with cauliflower rice - About a kg of minced beef - Two large bottles Sugocasa (Tradidional Italian pasta saus with very little additives) - Bunch of Italian herbes and salt and pepper - 300 grams shredded cheese
Saute the onion and mushrooms until tender. Add beef and mix well, cook till done. Add sauce and herbs, let simmer for a bit.
Dump in baking dish and add the cheese on top. Cook in oven for 45 minutes at 180C
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Some of y'all are gonna say this is really unhealthy, but one of my favorite very low carb substitute foods is mozzarella sticks but instead of dough, I roll some string cheese or just a square cut of fresh mozzarella in some egg, then roll it in parmesan or romano cheese that has some Italian herbs thrown in, dunk and roll 2 more times and then deep fry in ghee (butter oil) lol. It actually works extremely well for breading, it gets crispy just like a regular batter or dough would.
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Seems perfectly fine to me, but I might be a little biased in favor of high fat low carb meals. I'd eat it.
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I could go for some steamed hams.
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Another thing I like is doing the same egg/cheese dunk way but doing it with a charred and skinned pablano pepper stuffed with some cream cheese or seasoned ground beef.
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ham and cabbage probabbly make a good soup
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Breakfast:
Quark Avocado Bell Pepper
Feeling better, lost a kilo of fluids and gained 1% blood oxygen saturation.
Seems to be the right thing to do.
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Dude, in 2 years you will be posting pre and post excess-skin-removal-surgery pics
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That is my fear, excess skin.
I'm a swimmer, I find round as a barrel more acceptable than all loose-hangy. Its scary for the kids, for myself IDGAF.
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From what I've seen, it seems that high protein/fat low carb diets are best at reducing loose skin, gonna have to say it's because it's easily the best at keeping muscle while losing higher amounts of fat at the rate that you lose it. Losing mass very quickly can lead to more flabby skin, but losing muscle while losig fat really makes it worse. And of course lots of water to keep your skin more elastic. Maybe some collagen supplements would work well too.
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I have a secret weapon against dieting induced muscle loss...

Its what made Arnie Mr Universe.
If you combine a high protein diet with exercise etc and a low dose of a bulking steroid, the muscle lost in months will come back in weeks.
I intend to increase my exercise as weightloss allows.
I've been Fatman, I wanna come out there like He-Man, not a sack of excess skin.
If anything I owe it to the kids of the swimming pool who are entitled to see a happy end for the "Tsunami Man", instead of a drama
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#27022742 - 11/05/20 07:28 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why a bulking steroid though, your main goal is fat loss, it's hard to gain a lot of muscle and lose a lot of fat at the same time, actually it's pretty close to impossible. You should use a cutting steroid if you're going to use anything at all. It's generally not encouraged to use any steroids for people who have a lot of fat on them. Something like anavar or primobolan would suit you better, it'll be Anti catabolic but it's also mild enough to not give the level of sides youd get with other things. And if you hate needles, just backload into insulin syringes for subcutaneous injections, they are very managable.
Just sayin, cuz most people I've ever known to jump into steroid to solve a problem that took them years to come to, they end up taking steroids for nothing because they never just go from very overweight, to being disciplined enough to work out as much as they need to to reach their goals.
Dude just go with something lighter, you already had heart trouble, all that water retention you'll get from dbol will just make it worse for you.
I even quit steroids and have been using injectable SARMs. They're not studied nearly as much as AAS but the gains im getting from injection are actually really close, and the side effects are almost non existent, and they don't make my balls tiny or shut down my hormones.
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#27022749 - 11/05/20 07:38 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Eminence, don't worry, I have both dbol and anavar at my disposal so I can take it the bulking route or the cutting route.
I found it less invasive and more bulking to take 5mg dbol twice a week with exercise for a while than 10mg anavar daily for a month.
At that dosage and regimen, there wont be water retention.
I got PCT, even got Test and Winnie and Proviron so I can bring it on if for whatever reason my testicles need some backup assistance.
When you're anabolic you're NOT catabolic so its best to do a short spurt of either dbol or anavar and then go catabolic again.
I react VERY STRONGLY to steroids so I wont take gym doses and gym regimens, more like what burn victims and cancer patiens get.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Asante]
#27022784 - 11/05/20 08:09 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well dbol has an even shorter half life than anavar so I don't see why you couldn't take anavar just a couple times a week especially if you say you're sensitive to them. But alright man, do what you want I'm just speaking as someone with a decent amount of experience with all kinds of AAS. Idk what you mean by back up assistance with your balls but all AAS will make your hormones drop or shut down, they're all derived from testosterone. If you're talking about preventing the other side effects of low test then ok, test does obviously work for that. But you need HCG to keep your balls from shrinking while you're on, or to bring them back when you're done. Sounded like you were talking about using test and providron and Winnie in combination with a PCT which would make zero sense.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Eminence]
#27022799 - 11/05/20 08:20 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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All main steroid options are open for me and I'm well connected to good gear, even pharma ampoules for shots (steroid use is legal in holland) so it remains to be seen what can be done.
dbol is a horrid choice for high doses but quite sweet in low doses, it feels good, it bulks good and because its dosed so low the side effects are minimal.
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Increasing your androgen output by adding some AAS.
I know about shutdown but initially you can increase your output artifically to grow some extra tissues. Using AAS, when your on it, basically is like having several sets of nuts, hormonally.
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Winnie in combination with a PCT which would make zero sense.
I was just listing what was available.
I won't be foolish with it, sooner TOO careful.
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#27022814 - 11/05/20 08:31 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not read too much about anabolics but I thought they mostly just increased muscle recovery speed. I’ve heard they’re more just so you can bust ass in the gym every day and not have to deal with normal recovery times
Could just be bullshit I guess
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
#27022822 - 11/05/20 08:38 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Low doses of steroids are given to burn victims, aids and cancer patients and other people who lost a lot of tissues who need to regrow soms, stat.
People think solely of muscle but even your bone strength and artery wall strength go up if you wisely use anabolics. Testosterone derivatives rebuild all your tissues.
But the recovery speed thing is true. Recovery speed is reduced to 1/2 or maybe 1/3 if you eat and sleep right and take an AAS.
It goes for spraining your back too.
Anabolics are underutilized in medicine. Many people could benefit in their illness from a bit of assisted tissue regeneration.
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#27023061 - 11/05/20 10:57 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tripsurfer said: Tsunami man 
Yes 
I'm very popular at that pool with all ages, including lifegards and security. More than a few people expressed concern with me being so very massive, including a lot of kids, many of whom with childhood obesity, so as a writer I think the best new chapter after the corona mess is that I reappear with less fat and more power, that a diet succes story visibly unfolds. It would reassure a lot of people and be educational for the kids who struggle with their weight too.
I'm the biggest guy in the pool and me of all people engage in epic splash dives, I do it for me but it draws a lot of attention and I get a ton of respect and appreciation. A lifeguard friend on facebook told me that if I'm away for a period they get asked if I'm ok.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Asante]
#27023155 - 11/05/20 12:07 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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What ester of testosterone? If you're gonna use any, you should a low dose of test and maybe a low dose of proviron. That would be great for your goals and you'd have more stable blood levels than if you were to use something like dbol so spread apart, dbol two days a week is nothing if you're also doing it low dose.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Eminence]
#27023171 - 11/05/20 12:16 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have testosterone propionate and test e but if I'm going the way of testosterone I'll probably go the way of a legit pharma Sustenon knockoff.
I'm a bit biased against testosterone because of my enormous number of fat cells, I'd have to take an aromatase inhibitor along with it to avoid much of it being converted directly into estrogen, as fat cells are testosterone-to-estrogen factories.
You see it reflected in my primary picks, anavar and winstrol cant aromatize and dianabol does but is relatively less estrogenic in its metabolism than testosterone.
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#27023252 - 11/05/20 12:59 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I finally bought a scale that goes up to 400lbs. After weeks of diet and exercise, I'm still at 325lbs. So either I've gained as much muscle as I've lost in fat, or I've done neither. It's also possible that I gained more weight since the last time I weighed, and have, in the last few weeks, lost exactly that. At one point I thought my belt was maybe a little looser, but that wasn't a very scientific test.
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#27024564 - 11/06/20 08:04 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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As for low carb and nutrition, I discovered that all things included, Brie is better for me than full fat quark as a dairy product and probiotic. The prices are close enough here in Holland, right next to France.
Its a good thing I dont have a partner, brie for breakfast
I noticed I succeeded in having a small dish of blueberries in my fridge and only taking a few a day, as opposed to pwning the whole thing at once.
The voraciousness is wearing thin.
The pre-diet oxygen saturation of my blood was about 95, now is 96-97% . Me Gusto!
The local trashcangestapo gave me a lil unexpected extra workout which I could complete and would not have been able to a few days ago.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Asante]
#27026325 - 11/07/20 08:38 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Picked up a kilo bag of Psyllium husk fiber.
Psyllium husk is basically the active principle of Metamucil, but much much cheaper.
PHF contains lots of soluble fiber, which gels up with water, increasing your stomach filling and thus the satiation you experience, in addition to that it softens the stool and lubricates the bowel. While doing this, it traps some cholesterol and fat which leaves the body, which exerts a beneficial cholesterol lowering effect, and any food that gets caught up in the PHF gel becomes slow-release, lowering impact on blood glucose and lengthening the satiation phase.
Basically PHF has the beneficial bowel effects of oatmeal but, much more concentrated, you only need a teaspoon or two, and it has none of the starch, thus its good for low carb.
If you OD on it the stool bulking and lubrication is such that you can't hold back your shit and poop right in your pants because its too slippery for your bowel to hold on to 
Its also used as a low carb/keto food ingredient to bind things together and to increase fiber intake. There's no gluten in it yet it binds.
Here's a nice introductory video to the stuff from a keto perspective:
A lot of the people who have lost a LOT of weight on youtube, like 100 lbs and up, mention incorporating it into their diet.
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#27026377 - 11/07/20 09:03 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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That reminds me. I need to do that. I'm doing low-carb, may try full keto later.
Just remember to drink plenty of water with it else it will brick your shit up.
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#27026383 - 11/07/20 09:07 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I use a insoluble fibre supplement called kratom
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: gopher]
#27026386 - 11/07/20 09:09 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Insoluble fiber doesn't do the monkey magic soluble fiber does 
I'm eating a kilo of veg a day, insoluble fiber galore, and it hardens my stool despite a fat based diet.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Asante]
#27026422 - 11/07/20 09:30 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm recovering from abdominal surgery and the husk fiber has been keeping me super regular.

It's cool stuff kinda taste like tang.
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#27026432 - 11/07/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Eek abdominal surgery, I hope you're well.
But yes, great stuff, its even prescribed medically because it works so well.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Asante]
#27026462 - 11/07/20 09:57 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Asante]
#27026951 - 11/07/20 02:26 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I like a cliff bar to replace a breakfast or lunch. Chocolate peanut butter banana is my favorite one. They are surprisingly filling. And only a little over a dollar each. They do have a decent amount of carbs, so I dunno if it is right for you.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Asante]
#27026989 - 11/07/20 02:42 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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You probably already know that enoki can help reduce blood sugar:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4164374/
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: teknix]
#27027003 - 11/07/20 02:51 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks, I wish I had a source for enoki but I'd probably have to grow them myself if thats possible.
I'm enjoying reducing my carbs further and further, actually enjoying getting closer to ketosis because with all these veggies its a pleasant place to be and the fat just melts away, I imagine.
Its been less than a week and I'm 11 lbs lighter, most of which being edema fluid, and this reduces the load on my heart, eases my breathing, increases my resting blod oxygen saturation and my general endurence.
Its doing all sorts of good things.
With glucose almost eliminated, I'm pretty sure my blood sugar normalizes. I sense I have far less hunger so, probably yes!
I have foods in my house I would voraciously wolf down, like berries and nuts, but, don't. The underlying hunger is gone.
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My bro lost like 100 pounds doing keto. He was managing a gym for that while too, so he was working out quite often. I remember a negative aspect, I don't know if it was particular to him or not, but he seemed paler when he was on keto, not sure why that was. I love snacking on Wasabi Almonds. They are a great snack imo, because you only eat so many before your mouth is on fire and it slows you down from eating too many.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: teknix]
#27027024 - 11/07/20 03:07 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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He was managing a gym for that while too, so he was working out quite often.
Getting high on his own supply huh? 
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High amounts of fat are vasoconstrictive.
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#27027034 - 11/07/20 03:11 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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How many calories are you getting a day? I'm shooting for 1000 and at least 50% protein.
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Ah, that makes sense. I personally don't mind having a little extra weight to throw around if I need too I'm classified Overweight at 190 5'11, but I don't really feel overweight so it's just like whatever. I put on more weight in the winter intentionally, and when I hit 200 pounds I'm classified as obese.
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Not counting the calories but I use abour 3200 on a regular day. The doctor said "don't count calories, just make sure literally everything is low carb and it regulates itself"
Thats my experience with Atkins too but atkins was intolerable because of lack of veg.
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Don't forget your serms bro.
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Not counting the calories but I use abour 3200 on a regular day. The doctor said "don't count calories, just make sure literally everything is low carb and it regulates itself"
Thats my experience with Atkins too but atkins was intolerable because of lack of veg.
I just started my low carb low cal diet yesterday. Both days I've had 1 slice bologna , 2 eggs, some chopped poblano, and a glass of milk. A protein shake in the afternoon, and a lean ham crust "pizza" in the evening with a glass of milk.
I think that qualifies as low carb, but probably not keto. There was probably about 50g of carbs in the milk and cheese and some in the bologna and pizza sauce.
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I'm enjoying reducing my carbs further and further, actually enjoying getting closer to ketosis because with all these veggies its a pleasant place to be and the fat just melts away, I imagine.
Its been less than a week and I'm 11 lbs lighter, most of which being edema fluid, and this reduces the load on my heart, eases my breathing, increases my resting blod oxygen saturation and my general endurence.
Its doing all sorts of good things.
With glucose almost eliminated, I'm pretty sure my blood sugar normalizes. I sense I have far less hunger so, probably yes!
I have foods in my house I would voraciously wolf down, like berries and nuts, but, don't. The underlying hunger is gone.
Fun fact, the wild mushroom that many refer to as enoki is not the same species as enoki commonly cultivated in Asia. The former being flammulina velutipes and the latter being flammulina filiformis. There’s also another closely related species that was discovered recently, going by the name of flammulina finlandica
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Not counting the calories but I use abour 3200 on a regular day. The doctor said "don't count calories, just make sure literally everything is low carb and it regulates itself"
Thats my experience with Atkins too but atkins was intolerable because of lack of veg.
I just started my low carb low cal diet yesterday. Both days I've had 1 slice bologna , 2 eggs, some chopped poblano, and a glass of milk. A protein shake in the afternoon, and a lean ham crust "pizza" in the evening with a glass of milk.
I think that qualifies as low carb, but probably not keto. There was probably about 50g of carbs in the milk and cheese and some in the bologna and pizza sauce.
The only real vice here is the 2 glasses of milk, thats about 20gr of carbs. Cheese contains far less carbs than milk. 2 3-4 oz pieces of cheese would have been bettger for the low carb than 2 glasses of milk, while the fat and protein are much higher.
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Not very groovy.. I ended up with all the symptoms of considerable hypoglycemia just now, so I aborted the diet with a bowl of mashed potato (rapid starch source)
Voila, I feel much better in almost every way.
I'll ask my doctor in the morning for a medical dietician.
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hypoglycemia is a weird one, I seen multiple posts of people who claim it, but personally Ive clocked my blood sugar as low as 2.5 and I felt fine, I think it effects everyone differently, how were you feeling when you had it?
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I wonder if it's possible to be TOO overweight to start low carb or keto. Or maybe someone who typically has tons of carbs dropping low so fast can cause considerable symptoms of hypoglycemia. When I first started years ago, I felt a bit sluggish and...well that's about it, lasted less than a week or so. But I've never been more than 40 pounds overweight and I never had an extremely high carb diet before I started. Too high, but not extremely high.
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The trouble with tribbles is that I developed this several days into the diet so, either I knocked myself out of ketosis somehow or uh - I really got Dt2
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*goes to the crocery store knowing his diet is fucked anyway so he might as well enjoy it*
*returns with bubbly mineral water and a pound of spinach*
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Spinach is the shit. Especially creamed spinach.
I didn't know what I was gonna have tonight til I went on a walk and found this baby.

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In the last 9 days since posting this, I have lost 10lbs of what I assume is mostly water weight. I'm dieting harder, but I've slacked off a bit on the exercise. Next week, I'm gonna keep up with the dieting, and put more energy into exercise. Maybe I can join the sub-300 club by December 1st
I am feeling just a bit woozy, tho.
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More salt and water if feeling light headed. In keto I drink 3-4 L of water or mineral water day. Electrolytes help all so A LOT! Take or reduce ketoflu too.
Dont go so slow in calories. Your body goes on survival mode if you doo that. Either completly fast or eat enough.
When you start it is important to teach you body to burn fast proberly before starting to cut calories.
Fatadabtion first then start cutting the calories if you want. this takes 4-6 weeks normally. Ketosis hits normally in day 3 when cutting carbs out. Adabtion to burn fat again normally takes that 4-6 weeks first time. Easier and faster after that.
My sweetspot with calories when started doing keto was 1900.
Excersice should not be heavy for first 2 weeks when your body gets adabted to new fuel source.
Macros: carbs 20-50g a day protein by needs and the rest fat Usually something like carbs 5% protein 15-25% and fat 70%-85% You adjust these to you
First 2 weeks induction period carbs 20-30g max per day. After that you can add more. Be strict to your self during fat adabtion. It pays off! After that you can start with carb days if wanted. But first time keto works best and hardest for loosing weight imho. Maybe best just get the results you want without cutting ketosis. Or add carb days if your metabolism slows down and you need to fire it up again.
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I got sicker and sicker for days trying to get into keto, involving wporrisome cardiovascular backlash.
I have to ease in I can't just rawdog switching to keto, I'll get a heart attack again.
I eat lower carb now but still trying to ease in.
I guess I ate too little meat last time around.
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And one thing when starting keto/cutting carbs:
You will have to push through the shitty state! Does not feel good! I know. Treat it as addiction, wich it is. And things are more easy to handle IMHO. Taper down gently as you said.
You can do this! Dont put your self to risk but do this. Gather information, study,study,study. Read peoples experiences who are at same situation as you. Study more. Take things considering your health in notice. Taper gently.
Take it easy,but take it as uncle Terence used to say.
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Electrolytes will make it much easier for you. Your body flushes them out when carbs dont bind water to your system. MORE SALT,MORE WATER,ELECTROLYTES AS SUPPLEMENT!
But yeah talk with your doctor about symbtoms, but would suggest all so talking to nutrionist with experience in keto and diabetes type 2.
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One really common failure: Not enough fat in diet when doing keto.
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WELL FUCK MY LIFE FRONT REAR AND SIDEWAYS.
As an excursion to my diet I had a sugary treat earlier, containing about 2oz of sugar, and some time after that I lied down and napped some.
I woke up with cramping in both feet.
It HURT so I staggered around a bit till it wore off.
Got behind the computer and out of the blue googled "Diabetic foot cramps." not even knowing if that was a thing.
God damnit - its a thing, foot cramping resulting from high blood glucose.
I'M FUCKED, I got it.
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Type 2 can be treated with keto. And in my experience when you abstain from sugar and go back to it the insulin shocks feel pretty horrible.
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I went back and forth a bit with the diet to give my body time to adjust to Low Carb and am happy to report I now appear to have mild ketosis breath, greatly diminished appetite and am losing weight.
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I strongly recommend researching what people have managed to accomplish by going VEGAN - not just vegetarian - for atleast 90 days. Extending a "Sober October" into Nov/Dec as far as alcohol goes would also be wise. Also, no more candy or sweets. You will see changes in your appearance and the way you feel in 30 days, but discipline is needed to get to 90 days. Also, walk 1-5 miles every day you can. Good luck and bring intense, consistent discipline every day!
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Thank you for that advice but isnt Vegan starch based? I must cut out sugar and spice and all things nice sugar and starch.
Cant have legumes and grains and those are tyhe building blocks of vegetarianism.
Most fruits also must be used sparingly or omitted.
I need to lose about 150lbs so no 90 day anything will do much. It will at least be a 90 week struggle to get it off and a lifelonbg uphill battle to keep it off.
Thess than 1 in 1000 people with morbid obesity who lose a lot of weight DOESNT gain it back in 5 years.
Less than a 1 in 1000 chance to succeed across 5 years.
Dieting is quackery. It is NO cure, NO solution, but its the best we have. Quackery.
Of course I;m going to be that 0.08% that makes it 
But only because God will work wonders, not because Diet and Exercise work, because once you have a BMI like mine, your metabolism is so broken that they just won't.
Less than 1 in 1000 no matter what you do.
If I succeed it will be a Miracle of God, nothing less than that.
But, I believe in that and have witnessed Miracles so, going for sound application of diet and exercise, other life changes, and a whole lot of God.
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You should listen to me. I weigh roughly 150 pounds right now. I try new thing all the time, and believe in *constant adaptation.* What works is wittingly shocking the body out of its mode of stasis - assuming you have reversible health concerns. The vegan diet can lean in several directions. You can try a VOMAD 90 day diet. Vegan One Meal A Day - 90 days. Hit the tofu with salads and a side of avocado or guacamole. Supplement with Vitamin B complex because you will not get that during this vegan cycle. Walking will not only burn calories, it will aid in your digestion and metabolic rate. If for some readon you do not want fruits, nuts, or grains - there are vegan options out there, but you are going to be eating the same meal again and again.
https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/g5186/vegan-celebrities/
Focus on this topic if you are serious. Also, no more soda of any type for the rest of life and beyond. You want to feel hungry nearly every hour of the day, without actually traumatizing your body and mind.
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Asante said: WELL FUCK MY LIFE FRONT REAR AND SIDEWAYS.
As an excursion to my diet I had a sugary treat earlier, containing about 2oz of sugar, and some time after that I lied down and napped some.
I woke up with cramping in both feet.
It HURT so I staggered around a bit till it wore off.
Got behind the computer and out of the blue googled "Diabetic foot cramps." not even knowing if that was a thing.
God damnit - its a thing, foot cramping resulting from high blood glucose.
I'M FUCKED, I got it.
Electolyte drinks are not enough if you are 40 or older and into stuff. I had to upgrade from Gatorade/Powerade daily to https://mx.iherb.com/pr/Now-Foods-Potassium-Citrate-99-mg-180-Capsules/13061?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5vPhwdGY7QIVTdbACh0YSAkvEAQYBCABEgKdtvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds or a similar brand. I also had to take this for a month: https://www.soriana.com/soriana/es/c/Salud-y-Belleza/Suplementos/Remedio-Herbolario-Aradicaps-30-Capsulas-de-300-mg-/p/11433039
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Most nutrionist dont support the idea of going keto while vegan. To cure you metabolism and to fight type 2 diabetes going keto works wonders.
If you want to try keto vegan my opinion is to do it later. First get you fat burning machinery back on track with strict 20-30g carbs per day. After it has recovered. Maybe try vegan way if YOU feel the calling for it.
And congrats for doing it!

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Asante said: Thank you for that advice but isnt Vegan starch based? I must cut out sugar and spice and all things nice sugar and starch.
I hate the vegan diet, but theres people who have reversed their diabetes on a whole foods vegan diet, from what I can tell its mixing carbs and fats that is the real problem, but trying to query that just brings up body builders who say you shouldnt do that and not any solid nutrition sites
also theres been many starch based diets like the Okinawa in Japan who ate most of their calories from sweet potato or the chinese who ate most of their calories from rice who never had blood sugar problems/diabetes until sugar and flour was introduced into their culture
that said for me personally I rather restrict my diet to eggs and bacon rather then whole plant foods, I also think saturated fat is pretty essential for your body, your body is made of the fats you eat and I would worry about changing the fat profile to something we would evolved getting little of
you can find propaganda for both sides that seem pretty outlandish, like the doc what the health(vegan) or the doc the magic pill (keto)
plus with keto you can realistically fast longer which would be a huge help in lowering bloodsugar and insulin, Study the CNS mentioned doing vegan OMAD but I couldnt imagine that, for one plant foods are usually less caloricly dense so itd be hard to eat enough in an hours time to keep you full all day, plus carby food keeps your glycogen replenished and when you start to run low on that you get cravings to eat again so your body dosnt have to switch over to fat burning
if you have an hour I recommend watching this Video, from a doctor, Jason Fung, who uses fasting and low carb diet to reverse diabetes in his patients, he has reversed diabetes in hundreds if not thousands of his patients, he is a nephrolgist from Toronto, he got into treating diabetes because diabetes is the leading cause of kidney disease so he figured he cant treat his kidney patients properly if they still have diabetes, he started by trying to get his patients to eat low-carb, but lots of his patients were really old immigrants who couldnt quite grasp the concept of keto, they listen to his advice, go home, come back to thier next appointment no better, they would say they did what he said, then when he would look at their food journal and it would be full of breads and pastas and rice and stuff, so he was like they obviously arnt getting this, he stumbled across fasting(before its current popularity, hes one of the people that popularized it) the more he looked into the old research on fasting, the less stupid he thought it was, he started getting his patients to fast, and he finally started getting results, his patients could understand fasting unlike keto, most people were familiar with fasting through religion and such, so his patient compliance went way up, this video is one of him lecturing other doctors on diabetes
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Hi! Please deeply note that when someone is *cutting* weight with a sense of urgency, they are not in a position to "feel full all day." You want the opposite. Feeling full is one of the main culprits in getting people into medical trouble - especially once they obtain 40 years of age. At the very most, you should feel "full" for no more than 90 minutes for every 24 hours. Especially if someone needs to lose 150 pounds.
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I eat little under 1kg of meat. 450g of beans. 250g of organic butter + the greens and mushrooms and spices in single sitting most days. I dont feel lethargic after that. Can eat and continue what I´m doing. Carbs cause that full effect. They bind lots of water wich makes you feel bloated.
You dont have to feel hungry either when loosing weight. In ketosis there is no blood sugar jumping up and down. You feel satisfied most of the time.
I get you. Veggies are healthy. I eat minimum of 0,5kg dem per day. Just saying that to loose weight and get Type 2 in order strict keto perios first to do that. Go vegan after that if it is calling.
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Study the CNS mentioned doing vegan OMAD but I couldnt imagine that, for one plant foods are usually less caloricly dense so itd be hard to eat enough in an hours time to keep you full all day
Hi! Please deeply note that when someone is *cutting* weight with a sense of urgency, they are not in a position to "feel full all day." You want the opposite. Feeling full is one of the main culprits in getting people into medical trouble - especially once they obtain 40 years of age. At the very most, you should feel "full" for no more than 90 minutes for every 24 hours. Especially if someone needs to lose 150 pounds.
feeling hungry or full is just hormonal signalling, you might be able to white knuckle through hunger for a day, or month, or 6 months, but eventually your hormones are going to win out, and you are going to do what they signal you to do, one way that animal foods are superior is that you will feel more full for longer off less calories,animal foods are the perfect combination of fat and protein to trigger peptide YY and cholecystokinin, fasting by itself will reduce ghrelin to the point where you can make it to 4,5,6 PM without eating, and foods that encourage peptide YY and cholecystokinin will keep you stuffed the rest of the day off smallish amounts of calories.
on my egg experiment I couldnt eat anymore then 15 hardboiled eggs, thats only 1050 calories, and I had no desire to eat the rest of the day, thats way longer than 90 minutes
animal foods tend to be self regulating in weight, the advocates for the carnivore diet recommend eating 60-80% of your calories from fat and the rest protein, with calories unrestricted, eat till you are full, overweight people who follow this advice tend to lose weight, underweight people tend to gain weight, the exception being if you include dairy, dairy can massively inhibit weight loss in some people
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: LeningradCowboy]
#27053488 - 11/23/20 07:31 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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LeningradCowboy said: I eat little under 1kg of meat. 450g of beans. 250g of organic butter + the greens and mushrooms and spices in single sitting most days.
I can't imagine you living long on that diet. The amount of meat and butter combined can't be good according to any take on nutrition that I know.
Too much meat and nothing lipid but a great quantity of animal fat. I think you';re headed for a quadruple bypass and liver and kidney issues.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Asante]
#27053508 - 11/23/20 07:45 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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that diet will raise LDL, but its a point of contention among low-carbers if LDL even means anything, for instance theres 2 types of LDL particles, big fluffy LDL and small dense LDL, small dense LDL is whats found in artery plaques, while saturated fat seems to raise the large fluffy LDL, sugar is what raises the small dense LDL
triglyceride/hdl ratio seems to be a better predictor heart disease then total LDL, that ratio tends to get better on a low carb diet
professor ken sakaris has some videos on low carb diets and cholesterol
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ken+sikaris+cholesterol+
and the guy I posted before, the nephrologist Jason Fung says if you have healthy kidneys protein is no problem on the kidneys
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Asante]
#27053581 - 11/23/20 08:43 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hard for me to explain this in english. TY Gopher.
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LeningradCowboy said: I eat little under 1kg of meat. 450g of beans. 250g of organic butter + the greens and mushrooms and spices in single sitting most days.
I can't imagine you living long on that diet. The amount of meat and butter combined can't be good according to any take on nutrition that I know.
Too much meat and nothing lipid but a great quantity of animal fat. I think you';re headed for a quadruple bypass and liver and kidney issues.
Feeling great actually.
Best shape in my life since childhood. Not going to keep up with these macros though. But now when repairing couple parts of my meat suit it does wonders to me. Combined to the fact that 24h fast boosts your HGH levesl up to 1300%-2000% so Things happen.
Thank you for your concern but really do we have to even debate wich diet is more healthy at this point? This works for me. Has worked for lot of people. Fructose/sugar is poison to liver btw.
The Bear aka Stanley Owsley the 3rd was strict carnivor btw. Look up his story. Did not die in heart attack, beated the cancer. Died in car accident at the age of 79 if recall correctly. He was strict with his diet. NO CARBS AT ALL. There is lots of examples about healthy carnivore/keto people.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Study The CNS] 1
#27053660 - 11/23/20 09:44 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Study The CNS said: You want to feel hungry nearly every hour of the day, without actually traumatizing your body and mind.
See...this is one of the reasons I think veganism is just so dumb How does being hungry all day help anyone with a goal for losing fat, or, doing anything productive really?
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Eminence]
#27053683 - 11/23/20 10:06 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't use vegan methods all year round. I do it it like body buuilders do Post Cycle Therapy every 12 weeks. Being vegan 365 days is a whole, different challenge. By being hungry, I do not mean you're starving. I mean there is no need to be eating all the time, because you broke a habitual state of existence that was needy when it came to foods and beverages.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Study The CNS]
#27053700 - 11/23/20 10:24 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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SS + GOMAD
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: manletto]
#27053902 - 11/23/20 01:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Idk if I go with carbs And IF like 16-24h. There is point when my bloodsugar drops and I get HANGRY as fak. With ketosis there is not this problem. I´m used to eat one time a day but really there is big difference between the fuel sources on this one. When you look at nature most omnivores this the right word for veggie eating animals, sorry english not my native) spend most of their time eating. while carnivores eat on much longer interval between meals.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: LeningradCowboy]
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: gopher]
#27094757 - 12/17/20 06:40 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Another big fail point is not having something LC to snack on. having snack that are LC to eat while watching movies and tv is always a good idea.
I swear by LC. I did it 15-20 years ago and lost 55 pounds. I don't do LC per se but I am always aware and I often don't eat both pieces of bread. I have managed to keep 45 of the 55 pounds off.
It really comes down to making lifestyle changes.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: PotDaddy]
#27094779 - 12/17/20 06:54 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am sure many people wet over a lot of this ground, but avoid processed starches. Switch out whatever starch you can fro a veggie that approximates it, avoid high start vegetables, but if treating yourself(do it, just not too much) look online for low glycemic index starches. NO WHITE RICE, its no different that eating a a bowl of sugar metabolically.
Also, try to make change slow. 1 at a time so as to not overwhelm yourself and get discouraged. Try weird things, eat quinoa and yams and other exotic starches to replace the normal ones.
Remember this trick that always helped me a diet is not a temporary thing, its just a word for what you typically eat, so if you have a bad week you always restart your "diet" every Monday.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: PotDaddy]
#27094884 - 12/17/20 08:01 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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PotDaddy said:. having snack that are LC to eat while watching movies and tv is always a good idea.
It really comes down to making lifestyle changes.
Not watching TV and snacking is a great lifestyle change.
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#27096417 - 12/18/20 06:56 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Smoked salmon, broccoli, minced garlic, and goat cheese mini quiche.

Made 2 dozen(26 eggs). Froze 14 and ate 2. My daughter likes them also!
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: ModularMind]
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Nice. Thats definitely something I'd make too. Although, I have come to find that I really just like raw salmon more than cooked in any fashion. Unless you considering salt curing a form of cooking. Goat cheese is easily one of my favorites too.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Eminence]
#27097834 - 12/19/20 01:57 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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No pictures..but I made a pizza crust from cream cheese, almond flour, mozzarella, parmesan and egg last night. If you make it thin crust you cannot tell at all that it's not actual pizza dough.
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: Eminence]
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I highly recommend giving intermittent fasting a spin. I've been doing it for many years, and I wouldn't have it any other way. It's a simple solution that makes sense.
Losing sensitivity to insulin? Don't secrete insulin constantly (each time you eat you secrete insulin). You can restore your insulin sensitivity by allowing yourself to go into a fasted state (where glucagon is secreted instead).
Low carb would have the same effect, it's just easier for me to limit what I eat in 'time' instead of controlling what I choose to eat. I like eating everything. Experiment, find what works for you. The best lifestyle is the one that you can stick to consistently.
I wish you all the best, just giving my opinion.
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I did the "carnivore diet" with one or two meals a day for a while, some time ago and actually that was the best I'd ever felt, easily. It's just too hard to stick with it long term for me. Best I could do was to just use the weekends to have whatever I wanted, mostly since that was when I would be with friends and it was hard to be the one dude not joining in on pizza and burgers and stuff like that. But I didn't just have bacon and steak though and stuff like a lot of newbie ketoers would eat. Had lots of organ meats (my favorites were grass fed liver, and beef heart) made lots of bone broth and sometimes just bought big leg bones and grilled them to eat the marrow inside that I just seasoned with some butter and salt and pepper etc. Lots of fish roe too. I might go back to that again soon honestly.
Had better skin, hair, sleep, shits, soreness from exercise went away faster, and I was more clear headed. Got a decent increase in free testosterone too. Surprisingly continued to gain strength which I was told would be much too hard without a quick energy source like carbs.
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Progress report: Almost 3 months ago I started the diet.
Sucked full of fluids, I weighed at my heaviest, 10kg/22lbs more than I do now.
And I keep losing weight.
And I'm not hungry.
And I'm not in ketosis.
This diet WORKS.
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It's just a regular low carb diet, yeah? Seems like you like the diet and you're making great progress. Not feeling hunger is probably the best part imo. Keep at it
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#27179638 - 01/31/21 04:17 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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10 kg in three months is awesome, keep up the good work!
Are you walking or doing any other type of cardio as well?
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#27179732 - 01/31/21 05:26 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ahhhhhh man. Sad I missed this thread until now. Congrats man. taking good care of yourself is the best fuck you you can give to the asshole food/pharma industries. Low carb diets keep the blood glucose levels lower and flatter for diabetics and prediabetics. Good blood glucose control means that LDL proteins don't get oxidized and glycated as badly, and that means that your muscles and fat tissues get to use the fat and cholesterol in your blood rather than having macrophages eat it the broken LDL which causes atherosclerosis. If your blood glucose has been better and continues to get better, then that means that extra LDL in your labs is less dangerous in terms of cardiac risk factors than the traditional model suggests, since that model is derived from a population that lives on the shit western diet with processed sugars all over the place. Those processed sugars are bad as fuck for you because they absorb so fast and they probably fuck up your microbiome too. The other benefit is that you don't get those addictive sugar spikes that dysregulate your reward centers almost as badly as cocaine, so it's easy to stay disciplined if you don't cheat. When I was starting the diet and struggling with cravings I would take a minute to personally insult foods that I'd get cravings for but couldn't have (fuck you bread). keep up the good work and you won't have to worry about diabetes anymore. lifestyle changes like a low carb diet are the best thing you can do for that. Exercise will probably be more useful now too.
for the past few years I've mostly been on a low carb diet that bounces in and out of a light ketosis (I bought a beta-hydroxybutyrate meter off amazon for testing). If you're going awhile inbetween meals, you might actually be doing the same thing, especially if you've got some stress going on since that can shift the balance between the activates of insulin and glucagon\epinephrine (sort of opposite actions to insulin) towards the fuel burning direction. That shift would promote the mobilization of fat reserves, particularly if your glycogen reserves are low from the diet, and promote ketogenesis from fat and gluconeogenesis from proteins. You might want to pick up a meter like I got to check your ketones if you're curious about what's going on with you. I've seen ketones show up in the blood off people who don't eat a lot. There's nothing wrong with having some in your blood if they're physiological useful.
Anyway, I love the diet I do. I don't hold back on the fats, and I lightly limit protein. I feel pretty fucking great most of the time. My cognition is better, I rarely get hungry, and the hunger is always less intense. After a while I started to taste tomatoes or carrots as sweet, and sugar is sickeningly sweet like it should be. Staying away from processed food is actually cheaper for quality stuff, so I make pretty tasty meals with meat and fish, and the vegetable sides are killer, and I eat nuts and seeds a bunch too. If you get your carbs from natural veggies and a little fruit and you balance out the colors (easy way to get variety) and add some healthy oils and spices, then you get a great balance of vitamins, minerals, and other essential nutrients. I've become a pretty great cook since I don't eat out too (suck it covid). If you quit relying on sugar to make stuff taste great, then you have to find the true secrets to deliciousness, and I'll settle for nothing less. Here's an early attempt at deliciousness; it's whatever you want to call ceviche, avocado, and bruschetta topping:
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Re: Test results are in.. Sooo.. who here eats Low Carb and what advice can you give? [Re: PatrickKn]
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ONE OZ SLUG said: It's just a regular low carb diet, yeah? Seems like you like the diet and you're making great progress. Not feeling hunger is probably the best part imo. Keep at it 
Actually, its a fairly lax lowish carb but strictly very low fructose diet.
So, a bit of starch here and there, OK, but sugar, plain NO.
What I love about this diet is that I eat about a kilo of greens along with my low carb and STILL lose weight. The only think intolerable about low carb was that it was low-veg.
Since I can have lors of vegetables, I have calorie dense AND low calorie foods, which makes it bearable.
Food has become a background process in my life, rather than a prominent nagging feeling alternating between, basically, hypo and hyper glycemia.
I can not eat something for 8 hours and feel great.
My belly is visibly thinner and considerably looser.
I'm STILL overhydrated, so its not all fluid weight.
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PatrickKn said: 10 kg in three months is awesome, keep up the good work!
For years my Spirit Guide said: "You will have a healthy weight before age 50" but now, having lost 10kg in the first quarter of the 2 years until that date, jesus, it might just happen.
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Are you walking or doing any other type of cardio as well?
I need to do more of that.
Mr Guesswork, thats a good analysis of the processes, good job and great food pic!
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