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Pandemoon
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Re: Eating mushrooms wet or dry? Opinions! [Re: kneesocks]
#27016955 - 11/02/20 07:32 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you have the option to eat them fresh then do it! Drying makes them lose some of their potency. Cubensis mushrooms contain both, psilocin and psilocybin. Psilocin is very unsable, most of it degrades while drying. Psilocybin on the other hand is more stable and will stay intact in dried shrooms for a long time, if stored properly. So the fresh equivalent dose is always a bit stronger due to more psilocin beeing present.
For longterm storage with the highest potency you just make a tea with all your fresh mushrooms. Boil the chopped shrooms in minimal water and the juice from a lime or lemon for 5 minutes, then turn off the heat and let them simmer for another 10min. The lemon/lime -juice is crucial here, it acts as an anti-oxidant and helps to extract the psiloc(yb)in into the water. Then strain out the shrooms and squeeze them well to get all the liquid out. Then separate the liquid into individual doses and freeze them. Ice cube trays, or zipperbags (used for freezing food) are good.
This way you keep most of the psilocin intact, and frozen tea will keep good for years.
For dosing just defrost a dose and drink. It hits you within 15min. 
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Re: Eating mushrooms wet or dry? Opinions! [Re: Pandemoon]
#27016967 - 11/02/20 07:40 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Are you implying the psilocin won't oxidize while frozen?
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Pandemoon
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Re: Eating mushrooms wet or dry? Opinions! [Re: Shroomhunts]
#27016981 - 11/02/20 07:50 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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At least not as quick as if not frozen. 
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Re: Eating mushrooms wet or dry? Opinions! [Re: kneesocks]
#27017057 - 11/02/20 08:44 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Awesome! Thanks for sharing! Cheers!
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funky123
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Re: Eating mushrooms wet or dry? Opinions! [Re: Pandemoon]
#27017694 - 11/02/20 02:52 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pandemoon said: If you have the option to eat them fresh then do it! Drying makes them lose some of their potency. Cubensis mushrooms contain both, psilocin and psilocybin. Psilocin is very unsable, most of it degrades while drying. Psilocybin on the other hand is more stable and will stay intact in dried shrooms for a long time, if stored properly. So the fresh equivalent dose is always a bit stronger due to more psilocin beeing present.
For longterm storage with the highest potency you just make a tea with all your fresh mushrooms. Boil the chopped shrooms in minimal water and the juice from a lime or lemon for 5 minutes, then turn off the heat and let them simmer for another 10min. The lemon/lime -juice is crucial here, it acts as an anti-oxidant and helps to extract the psiloc(yb)in into the water. Then strain out the shrooms and squeeze them well to get all the liquid out. Then separate the liquid into individual doses and freeze them. Ice cube trays, or zipperbags (used for freezing food) are good.
This way you keep most of the psilocin intact, and frozen tea will keep good for years.
For dosing just defrost a dose and drink. It hits you within 15min. 
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If I think about it - why not keep the mushrooms frozen in the fridge and then mix them into some smoothie for intended consumption? Except for the space they take up - wouldn't that be the best approach for conserving the Psilocin for an extended period?
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Re: Eating mushrooms wet or dry? Opinions! [Re: Pandemoon]
#27017970 - 11/02/20 05:48 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think I may try this! This seems like a great storage solution! Cheers!
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Re: Eating mushrooms wet or dry? Opinions! [Re: funky123]
#27017978 - 11/02/20 05:50 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you think about it, you seem right Can someone else chime in here? Freezing fresh mushrooms? Cheers!
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OutsideOfMyMind
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They taste better wet but wet is not a very practical form.
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Re: Eating mushrooms wet or dry? Opinions! [Re: OutsideOfMyMind] 1
#27018216 - 11/02/20 08:00 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, makes sense. Eating some wet, then drying the rest. Cheers!
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Quote:
OutsideOfMyMind said: They taste better wet but wet is not a very practical form.
Yeah I like to save like 20-30% of my harvest as fresh then dry the rest for future use.
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Re: Eating mushrooms wet or dry? Opinions! [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#27018353 - 11/02/20 09:23 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I’m thinking of doing roughly that percentage. Enough to chomp down fresh but lots for future trips! Cheers!
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I find it to be a pretty reasonable portion to get your feet wet with fresh shrooms. Excuse the Pun
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Re: Eating mushrooms wet or dry? Opinions! [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#27018387 - 11/02/20 09:40 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fresh wet mushrooms have a very subtle sweet flavor sort of similar to the subtle sweet flavor of a gyokuro Japanese green tea. You'll notice it if your taste palette is more refined. dry mushrooms do not have that subtle sweetness. Dry mushrooms are just kind of gross. I sometimes pour a little raw honey in my mouth while I'm chewing them. I think I'm just going to make tea from now on and just drink it down and get it done with.
Edited by OutsideOfMyMind (11/02/20 09:42 PM)
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Re: Eating mushrooms wet or dry? Opinions! [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#27018431 - 11/02/20 10:08 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Love the pun
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I can’t wait to try them fresh! Cheers!
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I'll never eat fresh mushrooms - I boil them in a tea! But holy shit the difference is light night and day to me. It really grabs you by the balls and makes things a little extraordinary weird. Which I love sitting back there drooling on entertainment
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Tried them with a southwest ranch and it was amazing. I like the taste of mushrooms though but the ranch masks it pretty well.
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Voids taste fucking amazing. Sometimes I get cravings...
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Good to know! Cheers!
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Oh yum! Cheers!
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