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Re: joe biden won the election! [Re: mushboy] * 5
    #27025612 - 11/06/20 07:20 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: joe biden won the election! [Re: SARAtonin] * 7
    #27025620 - 11/06/20 07:22 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: joe biden won the election! [Re: SARAtonin]
    #27025624 - 11/06/20 07:23 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Can you describe the noise that mayonnaise makes? :vaped:


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Re: joe biden won the election! [Re: SARAtonin] * 3
    #27025626 - 11/06/20 07:23 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

guy on the left having a nice slice of dragonfruit  :smile:


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Re: joe biden won the election! [Re: SonicTitan] * 6
    #27025630 - 11/06/20 07:28 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Can you describe the noise that mayonnaise makes? :vaped:



It’s a little something like this.


Or this.



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Re: joe biden won the election! [Re: SARAtonin] * 6
    #27025663 - 11/06/20 07:52 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: joe biden won the election! [Re: imachavel]
    #27025695 - 11/06/20 08:19 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Is there anything that could still get Trump a win? Short of god coming down and changing the ballot count in his favor? Literally nothing at this point could net him a win right? He could recount every state and the margin for error is just abysmally unlikely to occur to give him 4 million votes he needs to win the electoral count right?




He does not need 4 million more votes to hit 270 electoral college votes. The states generally award their electoral college votes on a "winner takes all" basis so the electoral college results for the whole country can diverge significantly from the popular vote.

What he would need to do (other then the faithless elector thing) would be somehow pull ahead in enough remaining states to hit 270, which would require far far less votes than 4 million considering how close some of those races are. Not impossible mathematically (a number of them are very close) but it's looking less and less likely.




It is not generally. The electoral college works by winner takes all. That is what the electoral college is. The person who gets the majority in the states by one popular vote gets all of the votes of the state according to the electoral count. It is why Biden is only ahead by 3% of the popular vote or less but has almost 50 electoral votes over on Trump or possibly more. Trump taking Texas and Florida is why Trump is even over the 200 line Biden claiming California is a big hit on Trump. California always goes blue and its always a big hit towards Republicans since the population is 60 million people out of 360 million people in the US. Anyone who wins red usually has to take like 30 fucking states or more including Texas and Florida to blow their opponent out of the water like Trump did with Hillary.

Its funny I have some extreme Trump supporter friends that today were arguing with me that Biden has not won yet and the votes are not done counting and Trump could still win. I was like "really?" They were like "its not over until the fat lady sings." I was like "she just did all her warm ups I could hear her through the walls going through the scales and she just stepped out onto the stage and took a deep breath." They were like "ok so if Trump loses you will admit how stupid you look right?" I was like "sure. Why don't we bet a million dollars on it. You bet me a million that Trump wins and I will put a million on Biden." They were like "you don't have a million and neither do we." I was like "fair enough. Ok bet $5 on Trump and I will bet $5 on Biden and winner takes $10 instead of $2 million." They were like "no way! Unethical. This is about Democracy not betting!" I was like "ok then admit Trump lost." They were like "no way I would put my freedom on knowing he won and it was rigged." I was like "you would bet your freedom but not $5?" They were like "no way!" I was like "you just know you are going to lose $5 right?"

I know I know I am a total asshole. :shrug: these Trump supporters just rub me the wrong way. Maybe tonight I will get my ass beat by 500 Trump supporters in the street either to death or into the ICU. I probably deserve it. Laugh now cry later. Right now I am laughing. Fuck their self proclaimed Democracy protecting racist bullshit :stoned: they lost and they know it

Now I better drop out of this thread before I basically become Koods.




That's how most states do it. Maine and Nebraska are not winner take all.


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Re: joe biden won the election! [Re: Texas Honey Badger]
    #27025700 - 11/06/20 08:26 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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They better wake him up from his nap:smilingpuppy:




The more napping the better. Let the advisors run the country. We are about to go from an administration that delegated the least amount of authority to one that delegates the most.

It's not ideal, but relatively speaking it will be better for the country.


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Re: joe biden won the election! [Re: SARAtonin] * 6
    #27025701 - 11/06/20 08:28 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I don't want to feel glee... but I do.

I have never and likely will never feel that again for any candidate. but Donald Trump was such an ass, and if you like that much of an asshole you deserve to cry.


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Re: joe biden won the election! [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
    #27025704 - 11/06/20 08:30 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

It would seem to me that any president should be delegating most things... Get a panel of experts in each field and they vote. How is anyone expected to know about geopolitics, economics, crime/violence statistics, psychology/criminal reform, etc. etc.


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Re: joe biden won the election! [Re: trees]
    #27025707 - 11/06/20 08:31 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Insurance investigator my ass.


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Re: joe biden won the election! [Re: lowbrow]
    #27025725 - 11/06/20 08:44 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

this Biden speech tonight is like the NV of show times


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Re: joe biden won the election! [Re: mushboy] * 3
    #27025770 - 11/06/20 09:16 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Insurance investigator my ass.



Still butthurt about last weeks truck swerving thread

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Re: joe biden won the election! [Re: Brian Jones]
    #27025781 - 11/06/20 09:24 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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imachavel said:
Is there anything that could still get Trump a win? Short of god coming down and changing the ballot count in his favor? Literally nothing at this point could net him a win right? He could recount every state and the margin for error is just abysmally unlikely to occur to give him 4 million votes he needs to win the electoral count right?




He does not need 4 million more votes to hit 270 electoral college votes. The states generally award their electoral college votes on a "winner takes all" basis so the electoral college results for the whole country can diverge significantly from the popular vote.

What he would need to do (other then the faithless elector thing) would be somehow pull ahead in enough remaining states to hit 270, which would require far far less votes than 4 million considering how close some of those races are. Not impossible mathematically (a number of them are very close) but it's looking less and less likely.




It is not generally. The electoral college works by winner takes all. That is what the electoral college is. The person who gets the majority in the states by one popular vote gets all of the votes of the state according to the electoral count. It is why Biden is only ahead by 3% of the popular vote or less but has almost 50 electoral votes over on Trump or possibly more. Trump taking Texas and Florida is why Trump is even over the 200 line Biden claiming California is a big hit on Trump. California always goes blue and its always a big hit towards Republicans since the population is 60 million people out of 360 million people in the US. Anyone who wins red usually has to take like 30 fucking states or more including Texas and Florida to blow their opponent out of the water like Trump did with Hillary.

Its funny I have some extreme Trump supporter friends that today were arguing with me that Biden has not won yet and the votes are not done counting and Trump could still win. I was like "really?" They were like "its not over until the fat lady sings." I was like "she just did all her warm ups I could hear her through the walls going through the scales and she just stepped out onto the stage and took a deep breath." They were like "ok so if Trump loses you will admit how stupid you look right?" I was like "sure. Why don't we bet a million dollars on it. You bet me a million that Trump wins and I will put a million on Biden." They were like "you don't have a million and neither do we." I was like "fair enough. Ok bet $5 on Trump and I will bet $5 on Biden and winner takes $10 instead of $2 million." They were like "no way! Unethical. This is about Democracy not betting!" I was like "ok then admit Trump lost." They were like "no way I would put my freedom on knowing he won and it was rigged." I was like "you would bet your freedom but not $5?" They were like "no way!" I was like "you just know you are going to lose $5 right?"

I know I know I am a total asshole. :shrug: these Trump supporters just rub me the wrong way. Maybe tonight I will get my ass beat by 500 Trump supporters in the street either to death or into the ICU. I probably deserve it. Laugh now cry later. Right now I am laughing. Fuck their self proclaimed Democracy protecting racist bullshit :stoned: they lost and they know it

Now I better drop out of this thread before I basically become Koods.




That's how most states do it. Maine and Nebraska are not winner take all.




What do Maine and Nebraska do?

You mean the electoral system not only doesn't count popular votes but it lets different states apply different rules to the system? The reason for the electoral system being to give more voting power to less populated places? The same system that would let a state like California that could see 25 million people vote and 13 of them vote blue and 12 vote red and the state will give the total electoral power of all its voters to the blue candidate in the race will allow different states to apply different rules to the electoral system?

Wow god damn


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Re: joe biden won the election! [Re: imachavel] * 1
    #27025838 - 11/06/20 10:36 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

States are free to decide how they select their electors. There isn’t even a requirement they hold an election. A state could change their laws and decide to appoint electors based on a coin flip if they wanted. The electoral college system is stupid.


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Re: joe biden won the election! [Re: koods]
    #27025848 - 11/06/20 10:46 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

it is also an antiquated and obsolete institution

media and technology are ubiquitous, you can't excuse yourself for not being informed anymore, it's not 1830's Mississippi where you don't hear news for days or months or whatever, it's in your grasp alllll the time, no excuses

we don't need to hire people to speak for the will of the people who are getting all the information they need to make up their own mind


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Re: joe biden won the election! [Re: masspan]
    #27025851 - 11/06/20 10:48 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

....unless Trump nukes the internet....then we all get bubkiss


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Re: joe biden won the election! [Re: masspan] * 3
    #27025922 - 11/07/20 12:19 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: joe biden won the election! [Re: morrowasted]
    #27025945 - 11/07/20 12:46 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

wtf brahhhhhh


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Re: joe biden won the election! [Re: masspan]
    #27025951 - 11/07/20 01:02 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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States are free to decide how they select their electors. There isn’t even a requirement they hold an election. A state could change their laws and decide to appoint electors based on a coin flip if they wanted. The electoral college system is stupid.



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it is also an antiquated and obsolete institution

media and technology are ubiquitous, you can't excuse yourself for not being informed anymore, it's not 1830's Mississippi where you don't hear news for days or months or whatever, it's in your grasp alllll the time, no excuses

we don't need to hire people to speak for the will of the people who are getting all the information they need to make up their own mind




For that matter so is needing a President to keep a balance of power. What was the original point of a President? The country had a population of less then 10 million when George Washington became President. The average village had 10 - 250 people. Congress was probably made of a handful of Senators. A Presidential cabinet being the 3rd balance of power was probably a good idea back then. Now you have so many god damn district representatives like AOC that can go sit in on House meetings and so many fucking Senators in Congress and so much Judicial oversight what the fuck is the point of a President? You could appoint an administration that makes quick decisions and can go to war and make announcements and try and pass bills through the Senate etc. and this administration could be made of 20 people instead of 1 man. You could fill that White House up and remove some of the servants that cost $1 million a day and never need to elect a single person from a two party vote ever again.

And the whole country could stop being fanatical about who the next President is. Someone way too fucking powerful when they are supposed to be a nobody that has to bow to Congress just to tie their shoes and everyone acts like Darth Vader just moved out of the way for Emperor Palpatine every time the President speaks people fucking bow down like he will use the force to control their mind and make them think only hard left Democrat or hard right Republican thoughts.

Believe me as antiquated of a system as the electoral college is if it did not exist people in Mississippi would be crying like it was still 1830 "those big city folk Democrats votes are worth so much more then ours. We cant kompete with New York city population. What happened to the electoral college hyuk it gave us mountain folk a bigger say in the election against them big city Demokrat voters hyuk." :flowstone:

If this was really a "Democracy" each Governor would run his state like a country and decisions would be unified in Congress so a Federal branch could approve it sort of like the UN gets together to tell another country to fuck off if they don't follow the rules. The Federal branch could oversee things but would not primarily be in charge but could maintain a balance of power. But allowing Governors to make their own decisions under integrity they would play along with everyone else and not fight the Feds would invite the idea a state could still secede.

Antiquated it is indeed. You know the FBI and CIA play a part in a balance of law so to speak. They are not judges or lawyers or the courts or the police but can investigate any of them. But also they have to follow any judge or cops instructions off duty like anyone else. The FBI or CIA can investigate the cops but the cops can investigate or the FBI or CIA. Its a tricky almost unbelievable rule of power. Yet there is no President of any one of these Bureau's. Why does the United States need a President?

At the very least why is the President anything but a joke? Why do people treat the President like they are so powerful then are always surprised when one asshole replaces another for 4 years and acts like a power hungry dick hole? The President is supposed to be like a cop that watches over this country that makes sure all the other cops behave right. People treat a POTUS like a god then are always surprised when he acts like he has the power of one. What exactly is a President supposed to be allowed to do anyway?

What do people want? Someone that controls all the decisions? A President should have practically no effect on your life. Policies don't just get passed on the fly a bill is introduced and goes through a vigorous process to get passed involving dozens of Senators and possibly thousands of lawyers. He should simply cater a little more or less to one party to another.

It really blows my mind the way people act surprised when one guy acts like a god then they want a separate god to replace him and yet what was the problem in the first fucking place? If this system really works if the law really works then what happens in your area locally should make more of a real difference then anything else and paying attention to that and being involved in your community should honestly be the biggest factor of how your life turns out in the area you live in.

Surprisingly people bow to this tower of power that gets stronger at the top more then they will ever admit and yet always wet their pants more then they will ever admit when they slightly realise how powerless they really are then just bow down to the next god of their lives and go through it all over again when they find someone to replace the figure at the top of this power pyramid almost like slaves replacing their slave master hoping he will be a kinder slave owner then their last master and being surprised when he whips them just as hard. Its totally fucking asinine.


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