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8 days off the shit - opinions * 4
    #27017703 - 11/02/20 02:59 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Wassup so quick back drop

Kicked short half life opiates 8 days in

Wasn't iv, it was two weeks inhaled and subutex two months leading up to the switch to the shorter half life - so withdrawal was super rugged first three days but I'm up movin not sleeping really some chills lethargy sneezes but no skin crawl

So I needa get back to work, I climb trees so it's super intensive but I'm reluctant I'll have shit energy

Been a long time since I been off opiate

Would you go back to a labor intensive job if you were 9 days off a medium kick?

Anybody experienced somethin similar?


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Re: 8 days off the shit - opinions [Re: stzacrack] * 1
    #27017742 - 11/02/20 03:33 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

congratulations on kicking opiates, i have never met an opiate addict who said it was the best decision they ever made, keep it up

i don't have any advice except to listen to your body and stay active

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Re: 8 days off the shit - opinions [Re: masspan]
    #27017772 - 11/02/20 03:55 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yea I walked two miles two days ago in the cold felt great

That was only a half hour of exercise tho, I'm worried about spending 8 hours in a tree

I don't know if I could hold up a 70cc chainsaw make cuts etc all day but I have a kid

I need xanax


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Re: 8 days off the shit - opinions [Re: stzacrack]
    #27017787 - 11/02/20 04:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I found that work was my biggest trigger when it came to staying clean. But that was because of mental and emotional stress, not physical exhaustion and pain. Ive had labor jobs while on opioids before and I do understand the appeal though. Worked great at first: i worked hard, work was fun no matter what, i never felt weak or exhausted. But eventually that goes away and you feel all those things even when you use and much much much worse when you dont.

Give it 4 weeks. Then reassess. You can do that.


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Re: 8 days off the shit - opinions [Re: stzacrack]
    #27017800 - 11/02/20 04:21 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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stzacrack said:
Wassup so quick back drop

Kicked short half life opiates 8 days in

Wasn't iv, it was two weeks inhaled and subutex two months leading up to the switch to the shorter half life - so withdrawal was super rugged first three days but I'm up movin not sleeping really some chills lethargy sneezes but no skin crawl

So I needa get back to work, I climb trees so it's super intensive but I'm reluctant I'll have shit energy

Been a long time since I been off opiate

Would you go back to a labor intensive job if you were 9 days off a medium kick?

Anybody experienced somethin similar?





Proud of you.

Its so fucking hard to get to day 8.

The way neurons work is that humans are much better and DOING SOMETHING than at NOT DOING SOMETHING.

What you absolutely should do with the hours normally spent high is to spend them in life affirming ways, includding engaging your body and challenging, involving stuff.

Its way easier to stop doing something by intensively starting to do something entirely different than to simply omit a well established behavior and not overwrite it with other stuff to do.


GRAB ONTO LIVING LIFE WITH BOTH HANDS



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Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece suite on hire purchase in a range of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself.

Choose your future.

Choose life




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Re: 8 days off the shit - opinions [Re: Asante]
    #27017833 - 11/02/20 04:38 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Get yourself some naltrexone. It stops opioids from working. Like a weaker version of the naloxone in sub, but that lasts all day. Take it first thing in the morning. That way morning you can save later you's ass from bad decisions. For your first dose take like one fourth of a pill because some people are hypersensitive to it and it can be a rough time for those who are. But if youre not it can really help with staying clean once youre totally detoxed


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Re: 8 days off the shit - opinions [Re: morrowasted]
    #27017841 - 11/02/20 04:46 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Get yourself some naltrexone. It stops opioids from working. Like a weaker version of the naloxone in sub, but that lasts all day. Take it first thing in the morning. That way morning you can save later you's ass from bad decisions. For your first dose take like one fourth of a pill because some people are hypersensitive to it and it can be a rough time for those who are. But if youre not it can really help with staying clean once youre totally detoxed





Very good advice, safeguard your exit.


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Re: 8 days off the shit - opinions [Re: Asante]
    #27017842 - 11/02/20 04:46 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks dog

I was hoping somebody like you would chime in with the science behind it I'm into all that plus your positivity

Also my job and my daughter is my passion, that's my life

It's my month man full moon leading to my birthday the 18th I'll be 32

Did oxy 19-20, Iv heroin 20-28, daughter came at 28, suboxone 28-31 (3 and a half weeks ago)

jumped off to a shorter half life (diacetylmorphine 1gram a day) for 2 weeks,
And tomorrow morning will be 10 days since my last sniff

My CNS is buggin, sneezing cant sleep rls little bit

I know if I work and make it through a day I'll feel awesome

Anxiety and boredom/anhedonia twisting my mind could def use a couple or 40 xanax bars for after work but I guess whiskey will have to do


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Re: 8 days off the shit - opinions [Re: morrowasted]
    #27017855 - 11/02/20 04:51 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Dude I was on suboxone for years when I switched to subutex so I could snort my shit I got sick from that shit

I feel you but I'm not tryin to cop dope, the whole time on bupe I'd go to the hood for xanax and never copped dope

I just did the dope to switch the half lives of my withdrawal so itd be more intense shorter duration instead of dying for 2 weeks

I'm a good dad I'm not lookin for opiat2s no more I feel like I'm 18 again, plus the shit in NJ hoods is super strong n 100 dollars for 50 bags (5grams)
im not trying to die

You guys are super cool to answer tho

I'm actually thinking about getting pussy for the first time in a minute, my personality is back, you know

Should I bother with Kratom at this point?


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Re: 8 days off the shit - opinions [Re: stzacrack]
    #27017858 - 11/02/20 04:56 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Lemmy of Motörhead loved amphetamines so much he named his band after it. He only hated one drug, heroin, opiates, cause in the scene he was in that was the only drug he actually witnessed killing people.

Heroin is also #1 on the actual harm of drugs list as the worst offender.





Get that naltrexone and take it first thing in the morning every day so that there is no reward in relapsing.

Remember: what you used to use may kill you now.

Walk out of your addiction and dont look back.

Do something captivating which absorbs your attention with new stuff.

Set yourself a goal of buying a gratuitous luxury item you always wanted but never could have because of the drugs, like a good second hand fender stratocaster with an amp, or for a vacation to some tropical paradise.

Something gratuitous and luxurious tyhat just wasnt possible because the money all went to shite or you couldnt leave the country because of your connections for your habit.

It doesnt have to be extreme, its just to make a point to yourself that you are no longer scraping to afford a habit.

Highly recommended: a nice bike to get your formerly semi comatose body back into motion. A bike with bags so you can shop by bicycle.


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Re: 8 days off the shit - opinions [Re: Asante]
    #27017873 - 11/02/20 05:03 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yea man I know 25 dead 20 locked up

I'm not a luxury item kinda guy

I wanna start my own tree business

I derive all my pleasure and hapiness through my daughter

Ima stay off opiates, never enjoyed uppers even when offered for free, I like xanax alcohol and cigarettes

But I wont go to the hood cause I have a kid, and I can only get xanax delivered once a month so idk


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Re: 8 days off the shit - opinions [Re: Asante]
    #27017878 - 11/02/20 05:07 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

There is a mind/body balance :yinyang:

You have been investing probably too much activity in your mind (cause of the drugs), shift gears to do more physical activity, the opposite of nodding.
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Get everything pumping again, your heart, your air hole, your shit hole, the blood, lymphatic fluids and yes your sperm. Get that pusseh!  :tardpig:


Having quit my drugs of choice and retaining only a bit of coffee in the morning, I'm much more focussed on living life now. This will happen to you too and its a good thing.

The training wheels can come off  :ghostride:


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Re: 8 days off the shit - opinions [Re: Asante]
    #27017882 - 11/02/20 05:09 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yea man didn't mean to sound foul about libido, it's just reappeared is all

Yea I'm gettin back to work sweat like a dog soon as I can

Feel like a real human being again


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Re: 8 days off the shit - opinions [Re: stzacrack] * 1
    #27017889 - 11/02/20 05:11 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Should I bother with Kratom at this point?





Kratom is an opioid.

Instead of hesitating about relapsing try to fling yourself forward into life, the opposite direction.


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Re: 8 days off the shit - opinions [Re: Asante]
    #27017900 - 11/02/20 05:19 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yea fuck it

I just needed to vent thank you bro


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    #27017902 - 11/02/20 05:20 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: 8 days off the shit - opinions [Re: Asante] * 1
    #27017995 - 11/02/20 05:55 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

i don't have the same science or experience personally, it's one of the few things i've learned from other people to stay away from the junk...but moral support, i gotchu

your daughter will have longer to love and admire you, your family will enjoy your company longer, and maybe someday you might save someone else's life, and that love just keeps going

:sunny:


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Re: 8 days off the shit - opinions [Re: masspan]
    #27018000 - 11/02/20 05:57 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

that was for the OP, but Asante, you get the same love :smile:


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Re: 8 days off the shit - opinions [Re: masspan]
    #27018020 - 11/02/20 06:08 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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masspan said:
i don't have the same science or experience personally, it's one of the few things i've learned from other people to stay away from the junk...but moral support, i gotchu

your daughter will have longer to love and admire you, your family will enjoy your company longer, and maybe someday you might save someone else's life, and that love just keeps going

:sunny:




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Re: 8 days off the shit - opinions (moved) [Re: stzacrack]
    #27020465 - 11/03/20 10:49 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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