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Re: California Fall 2020 / Spring 2021 Season Actives [Re: breeg89]
#27139711 - 01/10/21 12:30 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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Breeg, those are some lovely looking muscarias! I gotta take the time and visit the bay area before they are all but gone.
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Re: California Fall 2020 / Spring 2021 Season Actives [Re: ZenZone]
#27139826 - 01/10/21 01:16 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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Thanks man, great allenii spot. muscaria gets too much hate. It's more than just a pretty face. I think most people just never try lower doses.
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Re: California Fall 2020 / Spring 2021 Season Actives [Re: breeg89]
#27140046 - 01/10/21 03:22 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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Breeg89 what dose do you take? How do you prep?
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Re: California Fall 2020 / Spring 2021 Season Actives [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
#27140302 - 01/10/21 05:56 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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Hell yeah!!! Nice find.
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Re: California Fall 2020 / Spring 2021 Season Actives [Re: Doc9151]
#27140338 - 01/10/21 06:15 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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yeah Breeg any tips on a good amanita experience would be appreciated, only time i tried it long ago, almost triggered a psychotic episode. I see them around frequently but pass ‘em by
Nice cyan patch molimo, and i like that restaurant patch too Zen
I just came back from tahoe, went to check a couple spots today Some small cyans at one spot

And a few more fatboys from one of the new spots discovered a couple weeks back
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Re: California Fall 2020 / Spring 2021 Season Actives [Re: bush-lurker]
#27140427 - 01/10/21 06:48 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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I love the look of muscaria--nothing looks more magical--but have doubts about trying them. Psilocybin is plenty for my needs, and I'd really like to avoid a bad experience.
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Re: California Fall 2020 / Spring 2021 Season Actives [Re: OsoGoloso] 1
#27140922 - 01/10/21 09:58 PM (3 years, 17 days ago) |
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Seen yesterday in Oakland
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Re: California Fall 2020 / Spring 2021 Season Actives [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#27141926 - 01/11/21 12:12 PM (3 years, 17 days ago) |
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Great pics, Alan. Just what I'm going to be looking for this afternoon as I take another foray through the Presidio. I know some of those have got to be out there, but at the very least I'm getting my exercise.
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Re: California Fall 2020 / Spring 2021 Season Actives [Re: OsoGoloso]
#27142040 - 01/11/21 01:29 PM (3 years, 17 days ago) |
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WOW!
Some fresh and meaty Cyans Chuck! And lovely habitat to be looking. That picture of the two intertwined is a work of art.
Molimo's 'small patch' looking freaking delicious. What a haul and its still pinning!
Bush lurker those are some fat meaty caps as well! Just huge.
Breeg and Alan bringing it in for the east bay.
Let me add a notch for the South East Bay.

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Re: California Fall 2020 / Spring 2021 Season Actives [Re: GroundGrown]
#27145501 - 01/13/21 09:53 AM (3 years, 15 days ago) |
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I drove out to SF on a whim over the holiday week from Colorado...my rational brain told me it was to get a bunch of things I left behind when I moved out last year, but my mushroom brain really just wanted to check my spots that bad...

Seems like a dry winter across the west, but was grateful to find a few cyans in one of my oldest and most favorite-est patches! Officially on the board for the winter 2021 season, ha!
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Re: California Fall 2020 / Spring 2021 Season Actives [Re: gKid_A]
#27145514 - 01/13/21 10:01 AM (3 years, 15 days ago) |
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That’s a hell of a drive for a booty call! But good on ya.
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Re: California Fall 2020 / Spring 2021 Season Actives [Re: afrogus]
#27145640 - 01/13/21 11:01 AM (3 years, 15 days ago) |
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It’s good for reflection to visit Ye ol’ stomping grounds gKid_A
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Re: California Fall 2020 / Spring 2021 Season Actives [Re: gKid_A]
#27146740 - 01/13/21 10:12 PM (3 years, 14 days ago) |
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gKid_A said: I drove out to SF on a whim over the holiday week from Colorado...my rational brain told me it was to get a bunch of things I left behind when I moved out last year, but my mushroom brain really just wanted to check my spots that bad...

Seems like a dry winter across the west, but was grateful to find a few cyans in one of my oldest and most favorite-est patches! Officially on the board for the winter 2021 season, ha!
Looks just like the cyans I found in South SF yesterday.
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Re: California Fall 2020 / Spring 2021 Season Actives [Re: Ghost]
#27150725 - 01/15/21 11:44 PM (3 years, 12 days ago) |
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I found some beautiful amanita muscarias over the past few weeks near Sacramento along the Sacramento and American Rivers. Amanita Muscaria gets such a bad rap but as long as the mushrooms are prepared correctly and dosed correctly it is quite an enjoyable and often euphoric experience for me at least.....
Another aspect that often doesn't get mentioned with these mushrooms is the dream potentiation. These mushrooms produce such vivid and lifelike dreams for me every single time. The dreams themselves are a trip! One time I dreamt that I lived a whole separate life over the course of 3-4 years complete with day/night cycles, going to bed, living this dream life like any other life. This dream life was even complete with false memories of my "dream life" when I was younger in this dream. It was quite a trip waking up and realizing that this whole life I lived for the past 3-4 years complete with all these false memories along with all the people, places and things I interacted with were all just a dream....
  
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Re: California Fall 2020 / Spring 2021 Season Actives [Re: NewMyco23]
#27154527 - 01/18/21 01:07 AM (3 years, 10 days ago) |
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I found a healthy patch of allenii and had a wonderful five person party. Allenii is a great little mushroom! At one point it was as if I was in a Mayan temple relief pattern sculptures decorated the walls (I’ve had this experience before). My skin even had these patterns. This is my sixth year of experiencing these mushrooms. They’re a mystery and an adventure to me. The patterns started showing up in my trips three years ago. My friends didn’t experience the relief sculptures even though they drank as much as I had of the tea I brewed. I surmised that it was because they hadn’t experienced these mushrooms as long as I have. Well, of course I don’t know if I’m right on this point.
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Re: California Fall 2020 / Spring 2021 Season Actives [Re: velvetanarchy]
#27154996 - 01/18/21 09:13 AM (3 years, 10 days ago) |
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va, I’m right there with you just sent you a pm to explain
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Re: California Fall 2020 / Spring 2021 Season Actives [Re: CHUCK.HNTR] 1
#27155897 - 01/18/21 04:47 PM (3 years, 10 days ago) |
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CHUCK.HNTR said: Breeg89 what dose do you take? How do you prep?
Amanita Muscaria contains both ibotenic acid and muscimol as the psychoactive constituents. When fresh there is a greater concentration of ibotenic acid present in the mushroom than muscimol. Ibotenic acid is the component of this mushroom that causes the majority of the negative side effects such as nausea, vomiting, and muscle convulsions. When consumed, a small fraction of the ibotenic acid is converted into muscimol but not all of it, leading to these negative side effects. Also, in it's pure isolated form ibotenic acid is active at around 30-50mg while muscimol is active around 5-10mg making muscimol much more active than ibotenic acid. However, given that fresh mushrooms contain mostly ibotenic acid it takes alot more of them to get a psychoactive dose which is why you hear of people eating 10-15 grams of dried amanita muscaria and getting horrible side effects as a result. In order to make the amanita more potent and to have less side effects, it is necessary to prepare the mushroom in a way that decarboxylates the ibotenic acid thereby turning it into muscimol.
Thankfully, the active constituents of Amanita Muscaria do not degrade in the same way that psilocin and psilocybin do in magic mushrooms. Muscimol is a relatively stable compound under heat.
The first step to preparing these mushrooms is to dehydrate them under heat (around 160 degrees) in a dehydrator. The heat from the dehydration process is able to convert some of the ibotenic acid into the more potent and more pleasurable muscimol. Not all of the ibotenic acid is converted in this stage (about 30%) but it's one of many steps needed to try and convert as much ibotenic acid as possible.
The next step is to make a mushroom tea out of the dried caps. On the stovetop, I bring 1 1/2 cups of water to a low boil and add in between 15-30 grams. (If the mushrooms were picked small before fully opening I would do 15 grams, otherwise I would put 30 grams in as the fully developed caps will be less potent). I then let the mushrooms simmer in the low boil for 20 minutes or more until all the color is leached out of the caps and into the water. During this boiling process, even more of the ibotenic acid is converted into muscimol. After this, the mushroom tea is almost ready to go. Continue boiling until you have just under a cup of fluid left. ( it is necessary to watch the mushrooms during the boiling process and to add more water throughout the process if it starts to get too low. You don't ever want there to not be any water in the pot since that would completely ruin this process.)
If you have just under a cup of fluid remaining then the dosage should be easy to determine. A tablespoon of the fluid should be either one gram for the higher potency mushrooms or two grams for the lower potency mushrooms. Before drinking the fluid it is necessary to add lemon juice to the amount you intend to drink. The acidity in the lemon juice will just about convert the rest of the ibotenic acid remaining from the previous two steps into muscimol. Since muscimol is much more potent than ibotenic acid it now takes less mushroom material to get an effect. For me it only takes about 2-3 tablespoons of the higher potency mushroom (2-3 grams) to have me feeling the effects pretty noticeably. It's a sub visual threshold but provides me with euphoria, relaxation, and general sleepiness. It works great as a sleep aid and provides for some seriously vivid and trippy dreams. I suppose if you wanted a more visual waking dose you could always take more of the mushroom tea solution maybe around 5-6 tablespoons.
All the times that I have taken it using this preparation method I have never experienced any negative side effects. I've never gotten any sort of nausea on Amanita Muscaria following this method.
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Re: California Fall 2020 / Spring 2021 Season Actives [Re: NewMyco23]
#27156417 - 01/18/21 10:25 PM (3 years, 9 days ago) |
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I just spent the day marching around Alameda, Berkeley, and Mill Valley and I couldn't find a single psilocybe.
What's more it was nearly 80* in the bay in the middle of January.
Now I have blisters on my feet and I don't want to ever go back to the bay again. It's frustrating seeing others find psilocybes in Golden Gate Park which I assumed would be completely harvested by now.
The weather forecast shows heavy rain in about a week or so. It looks like we'll be getting all of our winter rain right at the end.
Will that cause massive flushes of psilocybe mushrooms all over the bay? Will I be able to find psilocybes at the active patches here in placer county after this torrential downpour?
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Re: California Fall 2020 / Spring 2021 Season Actives [Re: axisarm]
#27156497 - 01/18/21 11:33 PM (3 years, 9 days ago) |
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Good write up NewMyco23 it’s cool to hear your method. How can you be certain all the ibotenic acid has been converted before ingestion?
axisarm- most the Psilocybe’s are fried right now, unless they are really well hidden with a good water source. Don’t get discouraged it can take a long time to start to realize the good habitats for them, but make sure you go after a good amount of rain not many days into a heat wave. I’m not sure if there will be another flush this season.
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Re: California Fall 2020 / Spring 2021 Season Actives [Re: axisarm]
#27157376 - 01/19/21 12:15 PM (3 years, 9 days ago) |
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CHUCK.HNTR said:
I’m not sure if there will be another flush this season.
That's how I feel as well.
Some spots that are tucked in very moist/wind protected micro-climates might still be pushing up a few fruits in a week or two if we do get some precip later this week, but after such a long dry stretch and such damn warm and extremely dry conditions of the past few days (ambient humidity has been down around 12% in my area) I don't think there will be any more flushes of fruits.
Tho one should still keep an eye out for ovoids ....I have yet to find them myself, they're not as common as cyans or allenii in our area, but they can def be found around nor-cal and from looking at old reports/finds of them in our area they seem to fruit just a little later than cyans & allenii (late winter early spring).
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axisarm said: I just spent the day marching around Alameda, Berkeley, and Mill Valley and I couldn't find a single psilocybe.
What's more it was nearly 80* in the bay in the middle of January.
Now I have blisters on my feet and I don't want to ever go back to the bay again. It's frustrating seeing others find psilocybes in Golden Gate Park which I assumed would be completely harvested by now.
The weather forecast shows heavy rain in about a week or so. It looks like we'll be getting all of our winter rain right at the end.
Will that cause massive flushes of psilocybe mushrooms all over the bay? Will I be able to find psilocybes at the active patches here in placer county after this torrential downpour?
"I don't want to ever go back to the bay again"...
Where abouts are you driving from to the bay? If you're anywhere in northern california you don't need to drive to the bay area to find them...These mushrooms can be found just about anywhere in northern California. Sure closer to the coast is a bit more prime climate and certain areas/municipalities do have more prime substrate/habitats, but these mushrooms can be found all through out the state.
I wouldn't bet on that "torrential downpour"...How do you know there's going to be a torrential downpour? The storm system is still several days out and there's no way to predict such a thing that far out. I feel that storm system is going to fall apart and not be a big event, but I hope I'm wrong.
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