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How to do spawn bags with out the explosion. The trippy way!
    #26996539 - 10/21/20 02:44 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Are you tired of your bags looking like this?

But what went wrong??? I prepared them just like my jars and my jars look like this!

Well I have the answer to go from this!

To this!

Disclaimer, this tek is for people who have time to run grain and can wait two days to run grain.

First off start off with whole oats! Pritty simple. I dump them into a huge tote. I do the whole 50lbs at once makes about 16-20 4-6qt bags. Here is the tote I use.

Now the hard part! I fill it with water and wait 48 hours before I strain and load bags.

After you have waited 48 hours the grains should be pretty hydrated Don't worry if they don't seem too hydrated. I then dump the grain in my makeshift strainer. Which is a tote with two shelvings and a large screen. I save the grain water for LC and it keeps my kitchen clean.

I wait about a hour or two or seven don't matter. just to let the grain dry a little they will be slightly wet very slightly when you load them. After your whole 3.5 -4 hours of pressure cooking the grains will be fully hydrated and not looking like somebody squeezed the paste in there! I hope this works out for you. I have ran alot of bags this way. If you don't care to boil water nonstop and time is not a issue then run them this way 2 days for 50lbs of hydrated oats.

I did this tek because I'm getting a lot of messages of how do I do my bags.


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Re: How to do spawn bags with out the explosion. The trippy way! [Re: trippytimes]
    #26997108 - 10/21/20 10:21 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Yea yea. Grain in bags and larger jars should definitely have less moisture content that quart jars


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Re: How to do spawn bags with out the explosion. The trippy way! [Re: Anastomosis]
    #26997311 - 10/22/20 04:45 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Seems simple knowledge to some but not all. I can't tell you how many people message me weekly about spawn bags.


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Re: How to do spawn bags with out the explosion. The trippy way! [Re: trippytimes]
    #27014195 - 10/31/20 04:19 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

i've tried this lots of times and have never gotten it to work. no offense but now i'm on my way to thinking that people who don't simmer never actually get 100% colonization in their bags. i would love to be proven wrong. post some photos of 100% colonized spawn bags that were prepared this way. please show that the top surface of the grain has 100% colonized too. until then, i'm just not buying it. :shrug:


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Re: How to do spawn bags with out the explosion. The trippy way! [Re: FriedEgg]
    #27014202 - 10/31/20 04:23 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

You don't have to bleave it. I have nine tubs right now that were done that way. I'll take a picture of a few of my bags that I have left. I mean if I really have to how about I mark a bag with some initials and go through the whole process through that bag and this is the way I've been prepping my oats for a while now and have not had a single contam or issue. I've actually cut the time down to about 30 hours instead of 48.

Plus you don't have to bleave me there is no way for me to prove this tek works even taking a picture of a bag 100% colonized who's to say I didn't boil it??


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Re: How to do spawn bags with out the explosion. The trippy way! [Re: trippytimes]
    #27014219 - 10/31/20 04:28 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Why don't you try it instead of calling b.s. do a small batch?? Soap for 24 to 30 hours load them up after a slight strain. Make sure the grains are still wet and PC for 3 and 1/2 to 4 hours...


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Re: How to do spawn bags with out the explosion. The trippy way! [Re: trippytimes]
    #27014221 - 10/31/20 04:29 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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trippytimes said:
I mean if I really have to how about I mark a bag with some initials and go through the whole process through that bag




that would actually be a really good idea. i'm not trying to be a dick. i'm just skeptical because many times i've tried exactly what you described and the grain bags never get fully colonized on top. i would LOVE for you to prove me wrong. i hate simmering grain :banghead:

i'll post some pics too. next time i prep grain i'll try the soak/no-simmer method and take pics along the way. maybe we'll find out it's just an environmental thing. it's really dry where i am :shrug:


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Re: How to do spawn bags with out the explosion. The trippy way! [Re: FriedEgg]
    #27014236 - 10/31/20 04:35 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

i just checked, it's 22% RH in the room where my grain bags are colonizing. what's the RH in your room?


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Re: How to do spawn bags with out the explosion. The trippy way! [Re: FriedEgg]
    #27014250 - 10/31/20 04:38 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I'm 70% RH in my room I'll snap a picture of the bag and the thermometer thing I use.
I tried grains for over 48 hours and it made them too mushy I can't really simmer grains because 1st it smells 2nd my new house has an induction stove and I have not bought a big enough pot to make it work.

You're telling me it does not colonize on top do you not shake your bags three times? Once at 30%, once at 70% and then one more good shake at 100%, just to make sure?


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Re: How to do spawn bags with out the explosion. The trippy way! [Re: trippytimes]
    #27014275 - 10/31/20 04:48 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I've tried the 24 hour soak also and they were nowhere near hydrated enough. Are you starting with hot water?


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Re: How to do spawn bags with out the explosion. The trippy way! [Re: trippytimes]
    #27014292 - 10/31/20 04:54 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

right. when i tried the no-simmer tek, the bag would be colonized everywhere except the top 1/4" layer of grain.

i usually do my initial G2G (0.3 quart of spawn to one 6 quart bag) and shake immediately after heat sealing the bag. after that, i don't shake it anymore. as long as they are simmered long enough, they will be 100% colonized (even on top) after about 7-9 days.

how are you inoculating your bags? G2G? what happens to your bags when you don't shake at all? (besides the first initial shake after the G2G)



here's a milo bag from 10-23 (+8 days) i have going right now. notice how the top is last to colonize. this bag will need another day because there's still some kernels that haven't colonized on top yet. you'll also notice some condensation in my bag from simmering a little too much. i have to find that sweet spot between the grain being over simmered and under simmered. if i simmer too long, i'll get too much condensation and bacteria. if i don't simmer enough, the top will never fully colonize.


but whenever i tried no-simmer grain, it's way worse. it's like a 1/4" layer of uncolonized grain at the top. also, after soaking milo or oats for 24 hours, they're still raw and crunchy so something is off.


@pureshrooming: i've also tried a boil water soak and it didn't work either. i put some dry milo in a bucket, poured boiling water into the bucket and closed the lid. waited 24 hours and PC'd. but that also failed too.


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Re: How to do spawn bags with out the explosion. The trippy way! [Re: trippytimes]
    #27014322 - 10/31/20 05:12 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)


Here is a pic of everything two bags were shake one is 100%


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Re: How to do spawn bags with out the explosion. The trippy way! [Re: trippytimes]
    #27014325 - 10/31/20 05:13 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

First I use a whole qt. To half a qt. Per 5qt bag.


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Re: How to do spawn bags with out the explosion. The trippy way! [Re: trippytimes]
    #27014333 - 10/31/20 05:16 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

See those little spots I wouldn't worry about maybe I'm lazy if I see a couple grains not 100% I would still spawn. By a couple I mean 12 or less. My bags turn out great I don't use hot water just water from my water hose I load them kind of wet... So yeah they hydrate more in the pc.


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Re: How to do spawn bags with out the explosion. The trippy way! [Re: trippytimes]
    #27014501 - 10/31/20 07:10 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

OP, I actually agree with you here. I've noticed that ratio method bags dont fully colonize to the top. I also feel fully hydrating grains before sterilization is critical. Just my experience as well


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